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Message 305179 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 7:19:30 UTC

Don't do it. End of story.

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Message 305296 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 12:34:41 UTC

wow, I didn't even know there was such a thing....
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Message 309106 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 1:05:41 UTC
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Let me state this in no uncertain terms.

Automated posting will be dealt with by disabling the account and deleting all posts by said account. Period.

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Message 310062 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 3:16:28 UTC

Trust me, Rom has had to do this in the past (Mr. Human Rights is one example I believe). He will almost certainly have to do it again in the future.


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Message 310158 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 5:38:48 UTC - in response to Message 310062.  

Trust me, Rom has had to do this in the past (Mr. Human Rights is one example I believe). He will almost certainly have to do it again in the future.

If you say so. I find it passing strange that Rom has taken no action against user Monday after he flooded two of my long threads into oblivion. That's rewarding the pepetrator while punishing the victim.

Does anybody mean to tell me that user Monday hasn't been around these boards long enough to know what the consequence of flooding is supposed to be? Is his so-called lack of "notice" the excuse here?



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Message 310169 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 5:56:38 UTC - in response to Message 310158.  
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Trust me, Rom has had to do this in the past (Mr. Human Rights is one example I believe). He will almost certainly have to do it again in the future.

If you say so. I find it passing strange that Rom has taken no action against user Monday after he flooded two of my long threads into oblivion. That's rewarding the pepetrator while punishing the victim.

Does anybody mean to tell me that user Monday hasn't been around these boards long enough to know what the consequence of flooding is supposed to be? Is his so-called lack of "notice" the excuse here?

I am not certain you have your facts correct. As of this moment, since joining Seti on April 6th, 2006, you Beethoven have made 1,217 posts, while Monday, who joined Seti on September 24th, 2005 has made 6 posts.

Just looking at the data one can infer the facts. No one, neither past nor present can hold a candle to your board usage, not even our illustrious Misfit.
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Message 310174 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:03:09 UTC - in response to Message 310169.  
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I am not certain you have your facts correct. As of this moment, since joining Seti on April 6th, 2006, you Beethoven have made 1,217 posts, while Monday, who joined Seti on September 24th, 2005 has made 6 posts.

Just looking at the data one can infer the facts. No one, neither past nor present can hold a candle to your board usage.


Rom wiped out Mondays messages Dog.
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Message 310176 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:06:39 UTC - in response to Message 310174.  

I am not certain you have your facts correct. As of this moment, since joining Seti on April 6th, 2006, you Beethoven have made 1,217 posts, while Monday, who joined Seti on September 24th, 2005 has made 6 posts.

Just looking at the data one can infer the facts. No one, neither past nor present can hold a candle to your board usage.


Rom wiped out Mondays messages Dog.

Then the 6 posts that are still on record is incorrect. I can assume then the Beethovens 1,217 posts is also short of the mark as well? If not, that is still alot of posting for being on the project for only 42 days.
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Message 310179 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:11:55 UTC - in response to Message 310174.  

I am not certain you have your facts correct. As of this moment, since joining Seti on April 6th, 2006, you Beethoven have made 1,217 posts, while Monday, who joined Seti on September 24th, 2005 has made 6 posts.

Just looking at the data one can infer the facts. No one, neither past nor present can hold a candle to your board usage.


Rom wiped out Mondays messages Dog.


Yes all 200 of them, and disabled my account.

But why let the facts get in the way of a false accusation against Rom.
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Message 310182 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:16:40 UTC - in response to Message 310176.  

I am not certain you have your facts correct. As of this moment, since joining Seti on April 6th, 2006, you Beethoven have made 1,217 posts, while Monday, who joined Seti on September 24th, 2005 has made 6 posts.

Just looking at the data one can infer the facts. No one, neither past nor present can hold a candle to your board usage.


Rom wiped out Mondays messages Dog.

Then the 6 posts that are still on record is incorrect. I can assume then the Beethovens 1,217 posts is also short of the mark as well? If not, that is still alot of posting for being on the project for only 42 days.

The point is though that Rom said:

"Automated posting will be dealt with by disabling the account and deleting all posts by said account. Period."

and this has not been done here.

And further Dogbytes, you're assuming that this user is not an alias for another user.

Your observations about my post count is interesting, but it's not the topic here, which is whether the administrators are serious about punishing flooders.



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Message 310183 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:19:47 UTC - in response to Message 310179.  

I am not certain you have your facts correct. As of this moment, since joining Seti on April 6th, 2006, you Beethoven have made 1,217 posts, while Monday, who joined Seti on September 24th, 2005 has made 6 posts.

Just looking at the data one can infer the facts. No one, neither past nor present can hold a candle to your board usage.


Rom wiped out Mondays messages Dog.


Yes all 200 of them, and disabled my account.

But why let the facts get in the way of a false accusation against Rom.

Yes, I can see how well your account is disabled, Monday.



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Message 310184 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:22:18 UTC - in response to Message 310183.  

I am not certain you have your facts correct. As of this moment, since joining Seti on April 6th, 2006, you Beethoven have made 1,217 posts, while Monday, who joined Seti on September 24th, 2005 has made 6 posts.

Just looking at the data one can infer the facts. No one, neither past nor present can hold a candle to your board usage.


Rom wiped out Mondays messages Dog.


Yes all 200 of them, and disabled my account.

But why let the facts get in the way of a false accusation against Rom.

Yes, I can see how well your account is disabled, Monday.

No one said it would be permanent.
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Message 310185 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:24:11 UTC
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Don't get me wrong either. I believe that thread spamming is at best in poor taste. Herein lies fine lines of demarcation, and it appears prima facia that Rom made a decision to delete the offenders postings along with a strong warning. Auto spamming, however, will earn the offender an immediate account deletion and rightfully so.
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Message 310187 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:26:46 UTC - in response to Message 310184.  

No one said it would be permanent.


well the jury is still out.
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Message 310190 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:29:11 UTC - in response to Message 310183.  
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Yes, I can see how well your account is disabled, Monday.


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Message 310192 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:34:30 UTC - in response to Message 310185.  
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Don't get me wrong either. I believe that thread spamming is at best in poor taste. Herein lies fine lines of demarcation, and it appears prima facia that Rom made a decision to delete the offenders postings along with a strong warning. Auto spamming, however, will earn the offender an immediate account deletion and rightfully so.

There's a difference between mere spamming and flooding. Monday flooded my threads into oblivion on the 16th. He's back and posting on the 19th. That doesn't sound like much of a "disabling" to me. It's hardly in proportion with taking down two threads, one with 937 user posts alone. That's not just my posts that were taken down, it's many other people's posts as well. :((

Edit: What the heck, I'll say it: the punishment here is so minimal, that it's tantamount to a licence to flood.



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Message 310200 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:42:18 UTC - in response to Message 310185.  
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Don't get me wrong either. I believe that thread spamming is at best in poor taste. Herein lies fine lines of demarcation, and it appears prima facia that Rom made a decision to delete the offenders postings along with a strong warning. Auto spamming, however, will earn the offender an immediate account deletion and rightfully so.

That's a distinction without a difference. Who cares what method is used to flood if the effect is exactly the same? Flooding is flooding. Destroying threads manually is destroying threads equally.

I have a better distinction for you, Dogbytes:

Spamming is merely to repeat posts a number of times consecutively, as often happens for fun in "The last person to post here wins" thread. There is no deliberate attempt to destroy the thread.

Flooding is to use both repetition and/or enlarging the width of posts in a thread, so as to render it highly inconvenient for users to post in it. It is a deliberate attempt to destroy a thread by rendering it unusable.

What Monday did was to take out two threads with flooding. Now he's back after a mere 2 days of not posting. How is the punishment here proportional to the damage inflicted?


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Message 310208 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 6:57:54 UTC

Look, bottom line is I made a judgment call.

Monday had no real posting history prior to the infraction and had a sizeable sum of credits which means that the account wasn’t created just to tick people off. Or if it was the person that created it was willing to throw a large amount of credit away.

I disabled the account and deleted all the posts made up until that time.

TBH, I really thought the account was an alternate for another user who I banned a few days before. So I didn’t even bother sending an email or anything.

I made this thread sticky and made a more forceful statement about what I would do with the accounts for future reference just in case it happens again.

Later that day/night I was contacted by the owner of the account apologizing for his actions and promising never to do it again.

The email had valid outbound headers, so my dilemma became what was fair to the project and the user of the account? For somebody who infrequently posted and contacted me after the account was banned and wanted it back it seems to me that the right choice was to reinstate the account and see how he conducts himself.

I’m still waiting for the other user who I banned a few days ago to make himself known in email or via another account. Guess we shall see what happens on that front.

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Message 310215 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 7:09:55 UTC
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Ahhh. Well that's an explanation that I can understand, Rom. But seeing that you've given Monday a big break here, if he ever does this again, he should be permanently banned.

I can console myself, that your explanation takes some of the gloating rights away from Monday. So, thank you for that.


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Message 310218 - Posted: 19 May 2006, 7:16:17 UTC - in response to Message 310215.  
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Ahhh. Well that's an explanation that I can understand, Rom. But seeing that you've given Monday a big break here, if he ever does this again, he should be permanently banned.

I can console myself, that your explanation takes some of the gloating rights away from Monday. So, thank you for that.

I find this highly amusing! You demand that Rom ban someone who has many friends here and whose posts are enjoyed by many just because he wrecked YOUR thread. Yet you defend other posters who have done even worse to other threads many, many times and even created a club for them!!!

You really are being a little ridiculous don't you think?
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