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Is there a outage on the way again?
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Porto De Mos Send message Joined: 19 Mar 03 Posts: 50 Credit: 4,923,709 RAC: 0 |
I've been keeping an eye on the result page in the server status area, and it seams that the results ready to send are climbing up dramaticly again. It's up to 500k already. Please tell me to just go to bed and get some sleep and that it's probably nothing... Is berkeley ready for the big merger? |
Reid Send message Joined: 2 Jun 99 Posts: 42 Credit: 4,797,587 RAC: 3 |
Those are results are ready to send to us...Users when they climb it is a good thing When they get to 0 , means we have no work to do |
mcbeth Send message Joined: 12 Mar 03 Posts: 81 Credit: 176,108 RAC: 0 |
But the "Workunits waiting for assimilation" grows up. May be this can get a problem greets mcbeth |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
YES, although I don't know when or how. LOL Could be 10 seconds, 10 days, or 10 months, but there will be an outage |
Daniel Schaalma Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 297 Credit: 16,953,703 RAC: 0 |
But the "Workunits waiting for assimilation" grows up. May be this can get a problem The "Waiting for assimilation" queue has been growing because they have had the assimilators turned off since they started the database merge. I see that the assimilators are now back on again, so I can only assume that the merge is complete and they are now assimilating all the pending W/U's into the master science database. As far as the "Ready to send" queue climbing, this is a good thing for now. They just recently put 2 new splitters online to create new work for the influx of new users from the closing of Seti Classic. Once the demand for new work levels off, they will disable one or more of the splitters to keep the "Ready to send" queue at the proper level based upon the demand for new work. I hope this helps to ease your mind a bit. Happy crunching. Regards, Daniel. |
E-30 [Black Sheep] Send message Joined: 3 Jan 03 Posts: 7 Credit: 11,674,149 RAC: 0 |
oh well if there is one i think everyone has other projects o any ways thats why boinc was made so you will allways have work. |
Dorsai Send message Joined: 7 Sep 04 Posts: 474 Credit: 4,504,838 RAC: 0 |
The "Waiting for assimilation" queue has been growing because they have had the assimilators turned off since they started the database merge. I see that the assimilators are now back on again, so I can only assume that the merge is complete and they are now assimilating all the pending W/U's into the master science database. {snip}. I suspect that it's more a case that they have to assimilate the classic DB in "bite sized chucks". Merge a bit, assimilate it, merge some more, and so on... Last I heard there were something like 50million results in the classic DB waiting for assimilation. If they tried to do them all in one go it would, i assume, tie the assimilators in knots, as we have seen dramatic slowdowns when some queues grow into low 7 figures, let alone middle 8's. IMHO. {EDit spelling} Foamy is "Lord and Master". (Oh, + some Classic WUs too.) |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
The "Waiting for assimilation" queue has been growing because they have had the assimilators turned off since they started the database merge. I see that the assimilators are now back on again, so I can only assume that the merge is complete and they are now assimilating all the pending W/U's into the master science database. {snip}. I thought that it was 50 million WUs waiting for validation. The assimilators are off because they would interfere with the merge of the classic science DB with the BOINC S@H DB. The assimilators take tha cannonical result and store it in the science DB. The cannonical result and WU are then available for deletion. BOINC WIKI |
Borgholio Send message Joined: 2 Aug 99 Posts: 654 Credit: 18,623,738 RAC: 45 |
The "Waiting for assimilation" queue has been growing because they have had the assimilators turned off since they started the database merge. I see that the assimilators are now back on again, so I can only assume that the merge is complete and they are now assimilating all the pending W/U's into the master science database. {snip}. I noticed that the "Waiting for Assimilation" number has been growing steadily since yesterday...even when all four assimilators were running. You will be assimilated...bunghole! |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
It *could* be that the science database merge that is reportedly running in the background is slowing the assimilator's access to that database, thereby causing the backlog... This would be my first guess. I guess the database merge currently rates a bit higher on the priority pole than keeping the S@H/BOINC assimilator queue drained at the moment. If you look at the nice graphics on the teamseti website, the assimilator queue started dropping like a rock, before stopping at around 600k and climbing slowly. If the assimilator queue gets TOO high, I would guess that they can always 'pause' the database merge and let the assimilators have unfettered access for a few hours to drain it. Rinse... Repeat... until the merge is complete. So, no... I don't think it means that another painful outage is 'on the way'... https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Borgholio Send message Joined: 2 Aug 99 Posts: 654 Credit: 18,623,738 RAC: 45 |
Yeah that's my thought too. They made no mention of the database merge being completed...so I figure the assimilation queue will rise quite a bit before everything's done. Fortunately, the other more "critical" services are chugging along smoothly. You will be assimilated...bunghole! |
MJKelleher Send message Joined: 1 Jul 99 Posts: 2048 Credit: 1,575,401 RAC: 0 |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13750 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Is there a outage on the way again? Next Wednesday for sure. Grant Darwin NT |
Tom Send message Joined: 17 Apr 00 Posts: 24 Credit: 283,013 RAC: 0 |
Is there a outage on the way again? LOL! There is a great tech news message in the Tech News area. The servers are barely keeping up. I just took my fastest machine off line for Seti. I will probably leave it that way until after the DB merge is complete. No need to kill Seti, especially when there is more then enough work getting completed right now. Of course the machine is happily crunching away on other projects. I would suggest other people do the same. I am running BOINC on 6 machines. So taking the fastest one off line means that there is still a lot of work happening an hopefully the servers won't see any problems. Thinks look bright, the merge will done soon, the new units will be available soon, and hopefully we will see new optimized code out soon too. I hope everyone is having a happy holiday. |
Hans Dorn Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2262 Credit: 26,448,570 RAC: 0 |
UL/DL is disabled ATM. Regards Hans Edit: And up again :o) |
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