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Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4520 Credit: 486,601 RAC: 0 |
Suppose this is a coinsidence? For no particular reason I had my computers hidden. Hadn't really thought much about it. But with a recent post I made I figured having it visible might make it easier for those much smarter than I to see what was going on. Here's the kicker. With the computer still hidden, the quota was 100/day, turnaround time 1.67 days. I went ahead and made the computer visible. Now, viewing the same computer, the quota is 1/day and turnaround time is 14 days. Nothing uploaded or downloaded between the time I 'un-hid' the computer and now. Sure it's a slow machine, but it's still be cranking out 2 wu's a day. It's kept that same pace for the last week, the only glitches being a couple Validate Errors that came about right after the last major outage. Maybe I should have kept things a secret? |
Ingleside Send message Joined: 4 Feb 03 Posts: 1546 Credit: 15,832,022 RAC: 13 |
Suppose this is a coinsidence? For no particular reason I had my computers hidden. Hadn't really thought much about it. But with a recent post I made I figured having it visible might make it easier for those much smarter than I to see what was going on. Here's the kicker. With the computer still hidden, the quota was 100/day, turnaround time 1.67 days. Your computer have 2 results that wasn't returned by their deadline earlier today, and therefore your turnaround-time increased and your quota decreased. It looks like there's a bug somewhere so the quota decreases too much, but it should double for each "success"-result you reports so isn't a big problem. |
Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4520 Credit: 486,601 RAC: 0 |
Your computer have 2 results that wasn't returned by their deadline Ah so. Timing is everything. Looks like I just happened to unhide the computer right when the deadline hit. Don't I get some kind of consolation prize for that?? edit: By golly, it's my aniversary too! All uploads of beer graciously accepted :) |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Don't get your hopes up yet. There's 4 more units that will time out over the next two days. One for tomorrow and 3 for Sunday. Each of the late returnees will put you back to a quota of 1/day. (Luckily the three on Sunday will do that all at once. ;)) |
Dave Mickey Send message Joined: 19 Oct 99 Posts: 178 Credit: 11,122,965 RAC: 0 |
From other posts, and my experience, I came to think that what's seen here is how it's supposed to work. As soon as you pass a dealine on a unit, your avg. turnaround time goes to 14 days, and your quota drops to 1/day. Then, each unit you finish without going over the deadline doubles your quota, and turnaround time starts to come down. I think this is to throttle machines which might be consuming units but not returning them for whatever reason. As you return units, your quota should go to 2, 4, 8, 16, etc. It looks like Scarecrow has a few more units in jeopardy in the next few days, as well, due on the 16th and 17th. If they go over, you'll drop back to a quota of 1/day for each of those. Maybe you have some units stuck in the upload queue due to the upload server response deficit we're working thru? Look in your transfer tab. You might identify which units are are those in jeopardy and do some "retries" on them to get them returned ASAP. I know, retrys will hit the servers more, but having them expire just because of server problems doesn't make any sense. Dave |
Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4520 Credit: 486,601 RAC: 0 |
Don't get your hopes up yet. There's 4 more units that will time out over the next two days. One for tomorrow and 3 for Sunday. Each of the late returnees will put you back to a quota of 1/day. (Luckily the three on Sunday will do that all at once. ;)) Yeah, I saw them too. Not sure what/how/why/where they are, but they aren't 'really' here. Just the 3 most current ones show up as running or getting ready to. But I'm sure with all the pending beer uploads I'll be able to take it like a man. :) Look in your transfer tab She's empty, seems like the 4 in question came into existance around the time of some problems on the server side so that might be why they're ghosting in there. I'll just brace myself, grin and bear it. :) |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0 |
hmm. I wonder if there is a spot in the code with an "= 1;" instead of a "-= 1;" in it. And people wonder why I think C stinks ... |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
hmm. I wonder if there is a spot in the code with an "= 1;" instead of a "-= 1;" in it. Coding mistakes can be made in any language. Different languages have their different strengths and weaknesses and hence different common coding mistakes, or things that just cannot be done. BOINC WIKI |
EclipseHA Send message Joined: 28 Jul 99 Posts: 1018 Credit: 530,719 RAC: 0 |
hmm. I wonder if there is a spot in the code with an "= 1;" instead of a "-= 1;" in it. I agree... |
fic Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 57 Credit: 1,075,709 RAC: 0 |
hmm. I wonder if there is a spot in the code with an "= 1;" instead of a "-= 1;" in it. I dont't quite agree. Though C is a very powerful language, it is very vulnerable to mistakes. One little mistake and you can spend hours debugging to find the mistake. I prefer Delphi over C. A little less powerful than C, but far more easier to use... And more readable ;-) |
EclipseHA Send message Joined: 28 Jul 99 Posts: 1018 Credit: 530,719 RAC: 0 |
hmm. I wonder if there is a spot in the code with an "= 1;" instead of a "-= 1;" in it. It really depends on how well you know the language (just like a spoken launguage). If you "kind of" know French, and try to use it, there's a chance of when you think you say "I Like your mother" to really say "I'd like to date your mother". C is not for a newbee programmer. C++ is a bit better, but I've yet to meet a good C++ programmer that didn't really understand C. Launguages like Java and Smalltalk are much better at OOP programing, as they prevent you from getting outside the object constraints (as C++ does). Ok, I know I'll get flamed here.. |
fic Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 57 Credit: 1,075,709 RAC: 0 |
hmm. I wonder if there is a spot in the code with an "= 1;" instead of a "-= 1;" in it. Here you have a very good point. I've been programming in C and Delphi for the past 10 years, both professionally. Sure you have to know the syntaxis, but the very reason why I like Delphi over C, is that Delphi doesn't make a difference between upper- and lowercase variables....
"J'aime bien ta mère", ou "je vieux bien baiser ta mère"? That's a difference of speech. Ok... You got me.
No, you won't. What about c#? lol |
EclipseHA Send message Joined: 28 Jul 99 Posts: 1018 Credit: 530,719 RAC: 0 |
hmm. I wonder if there is a spot in the code with an "= 1;" instead of a "-= 1;" in it. Not even looked at c# as other languages are there to do what I need. - "doesn't make a differenve between upper and lower case variables". To me that sucks! Makes the code harder to read as the variable name (to my eye or search in an editor) would not be the same.... Only weak languages allow case insenitivity! But then again, I wrote my first C code almost 30 years back... |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Then you should take a look at C#! It's object oriented and you can't do anything but work in classes! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
N/A Send message Joined: 18 May 01 Posts: 3718 Credit: 93,649 RAC: 0 |
[font='courier,courier new']C is a joke. ...but only Thompson, Ritchie, and Kernighan are laughing. ...and at us.[/font] |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0 |
Look in the Wiki for my opinion of C ... (you can't look for C++ due to constraints of using Wiki - use C Plus Plus instead). |
John Cropper Send message Joined: 3 May 00 Posts: 444 Credit: 416,933 RAC: 0 |
hmm. I wonder if there is a spot in the code with an "= 1;" instead of a "-= 1;" in it. Hence the term PIBKAC... ;o) Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway? Fox Sunday (US) at 9PM ET/PT |
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