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fic Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 57 Credit: 1,075,709 RAC: 0 |
> > Hi, the problems are already running. > > > > my teams cannot up-/download any wu´s. i hope the problem isn´t a larger > > problem, i don´t have any workunits to run boinc. all are ready to sent. > > > > I've got no probs whatsoever. > > My last Seti will be crunched some time today, and if that happens before the > connection problems of this single project is solved, I won't crunch it for > some days. > But the other projects will eagerly take over the free CPU time. That's exact > the behaviour Boinc was designed for. > > If you restrict yourself to only one project, you're CPU will cool down every > now and then, at least when WU creation cannot compete with WU demand at some > point in the future. > > So join some other projects, and be > happy :) > That's not the issue. When one does take a backup, or introduce new software, or whatever story the guys at Berkeley keep on telling us before (or after) an outage, you don't go home before the whole system is up and running well. |
LarryB56 Send message Joined: 22 Apr 02 Posts: 73 Credit: 4,402,310 RAC: 0 |
ANOTHER "Lost Weekend", I suppose... LarryB56 |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
> ANOTHER "Lost Weekend", I suppose... > It's only 5am about three more hours before the team gets in to review the carnage. I am sure they don't pay overtime so I don't expect the to stay over.... The team always seems to fix things up just it takes time That why we have BOINC to crunch all those great projects out there! |
Joseph Keene Send message Joined: 19 Feb 01 Posts: 15 Credit: 2,362,029 RAC: 0 |
Any word on when it'll be back up? I have like 7 hours left in my queue. :-/ |
eL_nino Send message Joined: 11 Mar 04 Posts: 79 Credit: 999,964 RAC: 0 |
> > ANOTHER "Lost Weekend", I suppose... > > > > It's only 5am about three more hours before the team gets in to > review the carnage. I am sure they don't pay overtime so I don't expect > the to stay over.... > > > The team always seems to fix things up just it takes time > That why we have BOINC to crunch all those great projects out there! > AT least they could inform us what is happening and no like this, on "Status page" is all "green" and nothing is working, do they think we are stupid? |
Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
> AT least they could inform us what is happening and no like this, on "Status > page" is all "green" and nothing is working, do they think we are stupid? I think it's not us or dem, who are stupid, but the machines. They are up and running, and don't get it, that they are not interacting with the outer world. And the team has still to arrive at work, as it's not even breakfast time in Berkeley. Gruesse vom Saenger For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
In the absence of any definite news, we are left with having to guess. In that spirit, here are my guesses. a couple months ago the added a new Server DB, and are trying to use the Old server/DB as a back up. They had trouble getting the Back up done properly back then, and just let it run. Then several weeks ago they tried and succeeded at cleaning up the old results from the DB. This clean up should shorten the back up time and is probably one of the reasons for doing it, the other would be to increase the free disc space. Last week, it appears they tried to back up the data base. There was a problem with it. This problem led to the RAC being way off base. Thursday they tried it again. This process requires alot of indexing and Disc read/writes. This then prevents Users from contacting, submitting, and recieving work. It took days the last time they tried the full back up. The Waiting to validate number increased then as well. Then when back it was reduced by roughly 6k per hour. Don't be too surprised by Stats of any kind being off for a while. As with the other 90% of seti/boinc percieved problems the cure is "Patience". A little news would be nice too. tony |
N/A Send message Joined: 18 May 01 Posts: 3718 Credit: 93,649 RAC: 0 |
...it's not even breakfast time in Berkeley. 5:27AM... it's not even time for consciousness yet. ...the cure is "Patience". So long as I get a WU after installing Tiger, I'll be happy. @Berkeley: That's 6PM EDT. Fix it. I wanna be crunching as soon as I leave the store. |
MikeSW17 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1603 Credit: 2,700,523 RAC: 0 |
FWIW. I am not uploading/downloading either. More strangely, I cannot get to Windows Update either - which hasn't happened in years... I can get to MS home page thou... |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
It is now 5:30am jeezum..... The sever page is not working correctly either..... >do they think we are stupid? Why would make a statment like that? |
Tigher Send message Joined: 18 Mar 04 Posts: 1547 Credit: 760,577 RAC: 0 |
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Joseph Keene Send message Joined: 19 Feb 01 Posts: 15 Credit: 2,362,029 RAC: 0 |
so the guys/gals at berkeley don't run their own software at home?...or they just don't look at it? ;) |
Tigher Send message Joined: 18 Mar 04 Posts: 1547 Credit: 760,577 RAC: 0 |
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MikeSW17 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1603 Credit: 2,700,523 RAC: 0 |
> Hi all. Just got an answer from SETI support team. Firewall problems...being > dealt with right now. A news item will appear soon. Cheers > > Thanks Ian. Perhaps we should call for a Firewall and Network status entry on the Server Status page... |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34264 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Hi Not that bad idea. greetz Mike With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
John Cropper Send message Joined: 3 May 00 Posts: 444 Credit: 416,933 RAC: 0 |
> FWIW. I am not uploading/downloading either. > Same here. No ul/dl since the scheduled outage. > More strangely, I cannot get to Windows Update either - which hasn't happened > in years... I can get to MS home page thou... Well, Zan lost his ring and he and Jana can't activate their Microsoft Wonder Twin Windows Update(tm) powers without it. [snicker] Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway? Fox Sunday (US) at 9PM ET/PT |
Tigher Send message Joined: 18 Mar 04 Posts: 1547 Credit: 760,577 RAC: 0 |
> > Perhaps we should call for a Firewall and Network status entry on the Server > Status page... > > OK np Mike. There is a hint in the network graphs but without knowing the topology its hard to work out for sure what the problem might be or fully where it is. Yes...perhaps some sort of status would be good. If we knew the names/IP addresses of the routers/devices etc on campus then we could have a pretty good go at working it out for ourselves tbh. But...names change and they won't want to be constrained that way I guess.....so yes a status would be nice. Certainly save millions of posts and bandwidth with people making enquiries. Cheers |
Tigher Send message Joined: 18 Mar 04 Posts: 1547 Credit: 760,577 RAC: 0 |
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Thomas Angelos Sr. Send message Joined: 18 Oct 00 Posts: 39 Credit: 7,756,683 RAC: 10 |
grrrrrrrrrrrrr its 9:00 AM on the 29th and its still down and I'm trying to get Seti@home BOINC started on a new computer...........:( whats going on? |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
> grrrrrrrrrrrrr its 9:00 AM on the 29th and its still down and I'm trying to > get Seti@home BOINC started on a new computer...........:( whats going on? > You have a reading problem.......... April 29, 2005 The DB reinit went fine. But then we had a problem with a recently installed software firewall. It was working when we left the lab yesterday but cut off the data service interface a short time later. We have switched off this firewall for now. Software firewalls are now required for all machines by campus policy but we will get an exception until ours is working. Note that we are, and always have been, behind a hardware firewall that works great. |
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