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Message 118374 - Posted: 4 Jun 2005, 1:51:47 UTC

At least it was in the right thread. First time for everything.
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Message 118561 - Posted: 4 Jun 2005, 9:15:00 UTC - in response to Message 118237.  



Whats your Source?






A bastion of the conservative press.....


Might be, there is a better way to solve the first term attrition problem.

We should be doing something besides forcing deployment of unfit troops.... who wants to deploy with unfit troops?

Seems that just cascades the morale problems.... and could easily jeapordize the safety of the units.
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Message 118566 - Posted: 4 Jun 2005, 10:01:34 UTC - in response to Message 118561.  


Thanks Paul....

I tried to search using the memo but got hundreds of Directives,,,,,
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Message 118573 - Posted: 4 Jun 2005, 10:25:02 UTC

Hmmmm.... let's see here......

Political appointees publicized unreliable intel for its PR value? ...What?

Someone should tell the president about this...

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""The allegation by the U.S. military official in Baghdad that Zarqawi and his lieutenants met in Syria suggests that, despite the controversy over the Bush administration's use of flimsy and bogus intelligence to make its case for war in Iraq, some officials are still quick to embrace dubious intelligence when it supports the administration's case - this time against Damascus. ""


""One of the U.S. officials said the initial report was based on a single human source, who has since changed his story significantly. Another official said the source and his information were quickly dismissed as unreliable by intelligence officials but caught the attention of some political appointees. ""

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.""These officials and two others said the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies were mystified by the reports of Zarqawi's visit because they had no such information. ""



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Message 118588 - Posted: 4 Jun 2005, 10:55:14 UTC

Two weeks ago, a top U.S. military official in Baghdad, Iraq, told reporters that Zarqawi had traveled to Syria in April and met with leaders of the Iraqi insurgency to plan the recent wave of bombings against American troops and the Iraqi government. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.


1. How many top officials are in Bagdad?
2. Seems the Validity of this report is hearsay.
3. Must be we have another "Deep Throat" in our mist
and we will find out 30 years Later, Who the sucker is!





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Message 118694 - Posted: 4 Jun 2005, 15:15:30 UTC - in response to Message 118561.  

Who [Expletive]ing cares....?


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Message 118697 - Posted: 4 Jun 2005, 15:20:48 UTC - in response to Message 118573.  
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.... Someone should tell the president about link removed. ....

Since you're so concerned, why don't YOU tell him?

Who [Expletive]ing cares....?


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Message 118808 - Posted: 4 Jun 2005, 18:55:11 UTC


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Message 118857 - Posted: 4 Jun 2005, 20:24:15 UTC - in response to Message 118573.  

"The allegation by the U.S. military official in Baghdad that Zarqawi and his lieutenants met in Syria suggests that, despite the controversy over the Bush administration's use of flimsy and bogus intelligence to make its case for war in Iraq, some officials are still quick to embrace dubious intelligence when it supports the administration's case - this time against Damascus."

"One of the U.S. officials said the initial report was based on a single human source, who has since changed his story significantly. Another official said the source and his information were quickly dismissed as unreliable by intelligence officials but caught the attention of some political appointees."

"These officials and two others said the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies were mystified by the reports of Zarqawi's visit because they had no such information."


So should we take it from this that you don't like the way your govenment is operating? Or are you going to deny that your agree with these quotes and the position put forward in your linked report? Are you looking for a response or are you simply spamming (again) these threads?

In other words, what's your point, Pauly-poo?
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Message 119193 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 10:07:43 UTC



Report highlights challenges facing new national intelligence director

A recent Congressional Research Service report outlines challenges the nation's new director of national intelligence will face in implementing his powers.

daily briefing

report pdf

Follow that source to it's cache of additional information and......

index

secrecy



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Those wacky scientists..... what will they look into next?


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Message 119368 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 17:13:17 UTC - in response to Message 119193.  

Who [Expletive]ing cares....?


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Message 119440 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 19:27:52 UTC

At last count America has pumped at least $7 billion into reconstruction projects, with little to show for it but the hostility of ordinary Iraqis, who still have an 18 percent unemployment rate. Most of the cash goes to U.S. contractors who spend much of it on personal security.

Basic services like electricity, water and sewers still aren't up to prewar levels.

Electricity is especially vital in a country where summer temperatures commonly reach 125 degrees Fahrenheit. Yet only 15 percent of Iraqis have reliable electrical service. In the capital, where it counts most, it's only 4 percent.




The question isn't "When will America pull out?";....

......it's "How bad a mess can we afford to leave behind?"

All I can say is this: last one out, please turn on the lights.
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Message 119454 - Posted: 5 Jun 2005, 19:46:05 UTC



LOLLLL!!!



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Message 119623 - Posted: 6 Jun 2005, 0:59:35 UTC - in response to Message 119440.  

Who [Expletive]ing cares....?


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BTW, when are you going to fill us in on how you managed to get 11 BOINC/SETI credits without a computer attached to the project. Tell us all how you have cheated the system.

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Message 119694 - Posted: 6 Jun 2005, 4:11:22 UTC

[font='fixedsys,courier']Liberty is measuerd by the tolerance governance offers to its dissenters.
Democracy is measured by the power of the individual in governance.
America is measured by its ignorance of other nations.

How could we have allowed ourselves to forget?
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Message 120106 - Posted: 7 Jun 2005, 5:26:41 UTC

CITIGROUP SAYS PERSONAL DATA OF 3.9 MILLION CUSTOMERS LOST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Citigroup Inc. (C) on Monday said computer tapes containing account and payment history data, including Social Security numbers, on 3.9 million customers were lost by United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS)

The disappearance is the latest in a series of reported data breaches involving U.S. companies, including Bank of America Corp. (BAC) and Time Warner Inc. (TWX)

New York-based Citigroup said UPS, the world's biggest package carrier, lost the tapes while shipping them to an Experian credit bureau in Texas.

The tapes covered CitiFinancial branch network customers and about 50,000 customers with closed accounts from CitiFinancial Retail Services. Customers of CitiFinancial Auto and CitiFinancial Mortgage are unaffected.

Citigroup, the world's biggest bank, on Saturday mailed a letter to customers about the problem. It said it has received no reports of unauthorized activity, and said there is "little risk" of the accounts being compromised.

"We were moving this using an enhanced security procedure we specified and developed with (UPS)," said Kevin Kessinger, president of Citigroup's North America consumer finance unit, in an interview. "You can imagine how frustrated and disappointed we are that this occurred."

Norman Black, a spokesman for Atlanta-based UPS, said "we sincerely regret that in this case we have not been able to find this package. We did conduct an exhaustive search."

Black said UPS is cooperating with Citigroup, and will "do everything we can to make sure this doesn't happen again."

In February, Bank of America said computer tapes containing data for some 1.2 million U.S. government employees, including U.S. senators, disappeared.

Time Warner, the world's biggest media company, in May said outside storage company Iron Mountain Inc. (IRM) lost computer backup tapes containing data on 600,000 current and former employees.

New Jersey authorities said they made several arrests this year over a scheme to steal records of hundreds of thousands of customers at Bank of America, Wachovia Corp. (WB), PNC Financial Services Group Inc. (PNC) and Commerce Bancorp Inc. (CBH).

Other companies to suffer recent data breaches include ChoicePoint Inc. (CPS) and Reed Elsevier Plc's (ELSN) (REED) LexisNexis unit.

SECRET SERVICE INVOLVED

Citigroup said its missing tapes were shipped from Weehawken, New Jersey, on May 2. It said it first learned of a possible problem on May 20 when Experian called to request a tracking number.

The bank said Experian and UPS advised it on May 24 that they could not locate the tapes. Citigroup said it notified the U.S. Secret Service on May 27 after an internal investigation. That agency did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

Asked if Citigroup plans to keep using UPS, Debby Hopkins, Citigroup's chief operations and technology officer, in an interview said "we are evaluating that, and any remaining shipments we have with any of our couriers."

Nick Akerman, a partner at Dorsey & Whitney LLP who represents companies whose data are lost, said: "If you're Citigroup, you'd want to ask if UPS is the proper way to deliver such information, and whether you should be using private deliverers to transport sensitive data."

Akerman does not represent Citigroup, but said some of his account data at the bank might have been lost.

CitiFinancial is inviting customers to enroll via a toll-free number, 1-888-469-8603, in a free credit monitoring service for 90 days. It said it earlier enrolled the customers in a separate service to help prevent identity theft.
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Message 120253 - Posted: 7 Jun 2005, 17:24:18 UTC

Gonzales v. Raich, a U.S. Supreme Court ruling was released yesterday, June 6, 2005. The legal issues in the case were: 1) whether Title II, the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970, which prohibits the cultivation and possession of marijuana, is a lawful exercise of Congressional authority under the Commerce Clause; 2) whether there is a fundamental right to obtain or use marijuana or other unproven treatments; and 3) whether the users of crude smoked marijuana can make a claim of medical necessity (though this point was not pursued on appeal).

In a 6-3 ruling, written by Justice John Paul Stevens, the Court held regarding item 1): that Congress’ Commerce Clause authority includes the power to prohibit the local cultivation and use of marijuana in compliance with California law. Thus, the government has prevailed in this landmark case that will impact all other states with similar ‘medical’ use of marijuana laws. The Court further noted that “Congress’ power to regulate purely local activities that are part of an economic class of activities that have a substantial effect on interstate commerce is firmly established.”

Regarding item 2): The Court stated: “The CSA designates marijuana as contraband for any purpose; in fact, by characterizing marijuana as a Schedule I drug, Congress expressly found that the drug has no acceptable medical uses.” It goes on to state: “Moreover, the CSA is a comprehensive regulatory regime specifically designed to regulate which controlled substances can be utilized for medicinal purposes, and in what manner.” Also referred to was the Supremacy Clause which “unambiguously provides that if there is any conflict between federal and state law, federal law shall prevail.”

Seldom are the actual facts of the case correctly reported in the many news reports about the case, even though the information can be easily found.

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Message 120424 - Posted: 8 Jun 2005, 2:46:10 UTC - in response to Message 120253.  

We have storefronts that sell the stuff. I'm expecting them to be raided by the DEA anytime now.
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Message 120546 - Posted: 8 Jun 2005, 10:43:35 UTC
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Bush: “Of course, I haven’t made up my mind we’re going to war with Iraq.” [10/1/02]

Bush:“Hopefully, we can do this peacefully – don’t get me wrong. And if the world were to collectively come together to do so, and to put pressure on Saddam Hussein and convince him to disarm, there’s a chance he may decide to do that. And war is not my first choice, don’t – it’s my last choice.” [11/7/02]

Bush: “This is our attempt to work with the world community to create peace. And the best way for peace is for Mr. Saddam Hussein to disarm. It’s up to him to make his decision.” [12/4/02]

Bush: “You said we’re headed to war in Iraq – I don’t know why you say that. I hope we’re not headed to war in Iraq. I’m the person who gets to decide, not you. I hope this can be done peacefully.” [12/31/02]

Bush: “First of all, you know, I’m hopeful we won’t have to go war, and let’s leave it at that.” [1/2/03]

Bush: “But Saddam Hussein is – he’s treated the demands of the world as a joke up to now, and it was his choice to make. He’s the person who gets to decide war and peace.” [2/7/03]

Bush:“I’ve not made up our mind about military action. Hopefully, this can be done peacefully.” [3/6/03]

Bush: “I want to remind you that it’s his choice to make as to whether or not we go to war. It’s Saddam’s choice. He’s the person that can make the choice of war and peace.” [3/6/03]

Bush: “We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq. But if Saddam Hussein does not disarm peacefully, he will be disarmed by force.” [3/8/03]

Bush: “Should Saddam Hussein choose confrontation, the American people can know that every measure has been taken to avoid war, and every measure will be taken to win it.” [3/17/03]

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.......the first time a majority of Americans disagreed with the central notion Bush has offered to build support for war


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Message 120566 - Posted: 8 Jun 2005, 11:44:03 UTC

Last night I had the strangest dream
I'd ever dreamed before
I dreamed the world had all agreed
To put an end to war

I dreamed I saw a mighty room
Filled with women and men
And the paper they were signing said
They'd never fight again

And when the paper was all signed
And a million copies made
They all joined hands and bowed their heads
And grateful pray'rs were prayed

And the people in the streets below
Were dancing 'round and 'round
While swords and guns and uniforms
Were scattered on the ground

Last night I had the strangest dream
I'd never dreamed before
I dreamed the world had all agreed
To put an end to war.




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