Posts by barbarossa

21) Questions and Answers : Windows : Bionc only runs on admin account (Message 221764)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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You'll have to install it anew. No problem: Just install over top. No WUs will be lost.
Look here, especially this point.

:-)= Greybeard
22) Questions and Answers : Preferences : 100% CPU Usage (Message 221727)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Older Athlons are real stoves. I have a 2000+ which spares me a lot of heating cost in winter... I don't know if your 2600+ is of the same sort.

But there should be no problem with a CPU working under BOINC if it worked under Classic. Classic also had the CPU on 100% - that's just the sense of the whole DC thingie after all.

This said I think you've got an overheating prob. This can be managed with
- not overclocking
- chasing dust bunnies
- possibly changing to more powerful CPU fan

If this doesn't help, do what Jim says and install a CPU throttle. But be aware that (AFAIK - I didn't use it myself up to now) Threadmaster throttles over all, not only for Seti...

:-)= Greybeard
23) Questions and Answers : Web site : Pat Ayling (Message 221722)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Your system seems to have received two new WUs just minutes ago.

Seems a bit queer. What kind of connection do you have?
Can you also copy/paste the lines of 'messages' tab in here?

:-)= Greybeard
24) Questions and Answers : Windows : dunchan1 (Message 221718)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Cliff, you have two accounts in BOINC, and that's what you should prevent.
You have 'Cliff Yuill, Sr' and 'Cliff'. Now, your BOINC seems to be crunching under the account 'Cliff', while you are writing in here under the accont 'Cliff Yuill, Sr'. AND - your Seti Classic account is attached to this latter. The two accounts must have different mail addies, BTW.

Now this is a bit of a mess and you should straighten it out.

My suggestion is to use the account 'Cliff', as your BOINC is already crunching and possibly has even delivered results.

So now, what have you to do?

  • Log out of the website here (NOT YET - read this post first...)
  • Log in again under the account of 'Cliff'. Of course you must know which mail address this account is registered under and have the respective account key or password. You surely know these things as you had to use them when attaching BOINC to Seti.
  • Do what Ageless and Thierry say to attach the Classic stats to the 'Cliff' account. But do all that under the 'Cliff' account!



When all went well, you'll see in 'your account' (still as 'Cliff', mind!) your Classic stats.
If so, you have successfully concentrated under this account and can forget the other (Cliff Yuill, Sr.).

If needed, you can alter almost anything of that account to suit you, including the Nickname and the mail addy.

:-)= Greybeard

25) Questions and Answers : Windows : dunchan1 (Message 221633)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Okay, this computer is listed under an account with nick 'Cliff'.

You should then only use that account from now on, for log on to this website as well. There is no use in haveing more than one account.

:-)= Greybeard
26) Questions and Answers : Windows : dunchan1 (Message 221597)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Cliff, to get it all clear:

A project is one of the scientific projects you can attach your BOINC to. there are about two dozens of them ATM, CPDN and Einstein belonging to the oldest and best known besides Seti.
In your above post you seem to be referring to work units, as you say these are showing in your 'work' tab.

Now, our fellows are right in pointing out that you have not yet attached to Seti. Go and look yourself under 'your account' -> 'view computers'. I'd be very astonished if you saw an attached computer there...

So let's get back to the beginning: You obviously did attach to a project, else you wouldn't be seeing any work in 'work' tab.
Just what projects then are shown in the 'projects' tab of your BOINC?

:-)= Greybeard
27) Questions and Answers : Windows : classic? (Message 221553)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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You don't actually expect an answer, do you?

Well i'll not be the one to feed the troll.

:-/= Greybeard
28) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Credit for old Classic version use from 1999-2005 missing! (Message 221548)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Printing your old user_info.sah in here is not a very good idea...

You must use its content in this form to retrieve your Classic password (thus it's no good idea to show it in here).

Then go to this form to link your account to your Classic account.

If successful, you'll see your Classic stats in 'your account'.

:-)= Greybeard
29) Questions and Answers : Windows : dunchan1 (Message 221544)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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You'll find lots of instructions in the BOINC Wiki (link in my sig.).

Credit is not immediately given in BOINC as it was in Classic. Nor is it calculated in the same way. Read more in the BOINC Wiki - here.

To change the size of you cache, go to 'your account -> 'general preferences' and set a higher value in 'connect to network about...'. Don't make it too high, though. 10 days is not a very good idea: BOINC will more often fall into panic mode. I use 1 day for myself, heard that something between 1 and 3 days should do well.

:-)= Greybeard
30) Message boards : Number crunching : User Stats. (Message 221538)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Already tried with 'your account'? :-)=

Boincstats AFAIK doesn't do Classisc stats - it's BOINCstats...

But try with mundayweb.

:-)= Greybeard
31) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows Error message "Boinc failed to disconnected from the internet" (Message 221382)
Posted 26 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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I just looked and it already has "NO" in the "Disconnect when done" setting.
I have been looking for any differences between my other three computers and the problem one and can't find any. The other ones are desk tops and the problem one is a Dell M40 work station industrial laptop with a local wireless connection to the Linsys wireless 2.4 GHz broadband router with speed booster. The other desk top computers on the same table are direct wire connected to the same router. The laptop is also on the same table. It's a ten foot long table.
Jim Biersach

The I'm out of wits.
Well it's 1 o'clock in the morning here and I've got to go an get an old man's beauty sleep... Hope one or another experienced user can jump in.

:-)= Greybeard
32) Questions and Answers : Windows : Communication Deferred (Message 221376)
Posted 25 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Yes thanks for this - the only prob im having now is seti has downloaded 2 wu's which its crunching but Climate seems to have stopped with the message 'preempted'. Not sure what this means, couldnt find it on the messages site?
What i really want to do is be able to run 1 wu of each climate and seti at the same time. Its set to 50/50 - but the climate unit is so huge it seems to not be able to cope with both??
Is there an easy way round this that im missing?
Thanks

That's something you cannot influence directly. BOINC manages to do by itself, trying to fulfil your resource share settings. Just let it crunch - it'll straighten out. Indirectly - of course - your influence is by setting the resource shares.

BTW: No need to hide your computers. Others can't see delicate data such as IP address or computer name. Try with mine. But unhidden computers sometimes can help us determine a problem.

:-)= Greybeard
33) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows Error message "Boinc failed to disconnected from the internet" (Message 221364)
Posted 25 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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I have DSL from SBC over phone line here in Wisconsin USA. It is always connected.

In that case it should give no problems to set the said value to NO.

:-)= Greybeard
34) Questions and Answers : Web site : Can't change old account's password (Message 221362)
Posted 25 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Don't fill in the middle section of the form. Just the old mail addy in the top section and then the bottom section.

You still have access to the Seti Classic Website, even if Classic crunching has stopped. Maybe you can find out there. BTW: No use to change anything in Classic any more, AFAIK.

:-)= Greybeard
35) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows Error message "Boinc failed to disconnected from the internet" (Message 221357)
Posted 25 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Never saw this one before. May depend a bit on your connection type.
That's why I'm just wildly guessing:

Go to 'your account' -> 'general preferences' and have look at the 'network using' section. Maybe it'll already help if you set the value of 'Disconnect when done' to NO.
Don't forget to press 'update' in 'projects' tab after any change.

BTW: I read your former request on this issue but hoped that somebody more competent would find an answer...

:-)= Greybeard

36) Questions and Answers : Windows : Cannot get SETI account to recognize my e-mail addy (Message 221354)
Posted 25 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Mike, if you go to this form, it should show your mail addy under which you are actually logged.

You have already successfully linked your BOINC account to your Classic account. Go to 'your account' and see your Classic stats there. Yes, it's 'as of March 2005' but it will soon be updated.

BTW, it's B O I N C, not BONIC.

:-)= Greybeard
37) Questions and Answers : Windows : boinic idle (Message 221347)
Posted 25 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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1) Open BOINC manager and have a look into 'commands'. Probably the check is near 'network activity suspended'; set it near one of the other two options.

2) Classic stats have last time been updated in March (which is declared on the page, if you read tghe small prints). The two systems were not permanently connected and updating Classic stats in BOINC always took a whole day with servers down. It will be updated in the next weeks to the last WU.

:-)= Greybeard
38) Questions and Answers : Windows : Downloading new work units (Message 221344)
Posted 25 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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If BOINC says it does not request new work, then it has decided that it needs no new work. It this sense you have no download problem.

Let's see why BOINC could not request work:

  • You could have set the Seti project to 'no new work' (in projects panel).
  • BOINC could think that it must only crunch Einstein for a while to achieve your resource share settings (Read more in the BOINC Wiki under Long Term Debt and Short Term Debt).
  • BOINC could run in panic mode, fearing that otherwise it would miss a deadline (described in the same place as the above).


You can go to 'your account' -> 'general preferences' and set 'Connect to network...' to a higher value than the default 0.1 days (e.g. 1 day).
And then you can... be patient. BOINC work scheduler will straighten out things within some days, probably.

:-)= Greybeard

39) Questions and Answers : Windows : Communication Deferred (Message 221244)
Posted 25 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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Ive had this problem since 9th Dec - today i took a good look at the messages and as i had 2 previous large workloads of climate prediction - which were on my original version of boinc before seti changed over - i decided to reduce my cpu usage on climate, then i actually aborted one work unit of climate prediction. I then requested an update on seti and hey presto! the first time in weeks, i got a work unit for Seti to crunch!
Seti has always been my priority - I didnt really get any work done with climate predict before i downloaded the seti version of boinc. since then and primarily downloading boinc for seti - Climate predict has chugged nicely away but not seti! I find that the climate predict work units are huge! and so seem to be taking up so much usage and thats probably why im having the probs with seti.
Is there any way to reduce the size of the climate units i download??? It seems a shame to have to abort their units in order to get any seti work done.

This is a bit of a problem if you are using a dual core or HT.
If you run only CPDSN and Seti, and when Seti is down for a while, then BOINC gets a second WU of CPDN.
I had to do the same as you, Annie, some weeks ago. Unfortunately you can't choose the size of WUs you are getting. But there is a workaround: Just set CPDN to 'no new work', as long as you have one of it's WUs crunching.

:-)= Greybeard
40) Message boards : Number crunching : Could not connect to SETI/Boinc thru Software Proxy (Message 221228)
Posted 25 Dec 2005 by Profile barbarossa
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What`s that, google yahoo???

This is built in to BOINC so it can verify the connection. Those two sites are supposed to be up always.

He say that the Problem came in the course of time!

One minute it doesn't work, the next it does and then stops again...
Methinks that he has a prob with his sw proxy.

Could be similiar to a non-prob I have at home sometimes:
I run an AllegroSurf proxy from RhinoSoft with a license for 3 parallel connections. In fact I have attached 5 machines (of which 2 only connect to the Internet when BOINC contacts central command).
So, from time to time, I happen to try to connect when there are already 3 connections running. The fourth connection will fail until one of the others is freed.

:-)= Greybeard


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