TLPTPHW CCCXXXI

Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPHW CCCXXXI
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 12 · 13 · 14 · 15

AuthorMessage
Scrooge McDuck
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Nov 99
Posts: 1678
Credit: 1,674,173
RAC: 54
Germany
Message 2133868 - Posted: 13 Mar 2024, 22:27:32 UTC - in response to Message 2133861.  
Last modified: 13 Mar 2024, 23:07:32 UTC

400v is technically available around here and is used at EA DCFC sites and EVgo and Charge Point and ad infinitum, but the charging devices are very expensive. and bulky too.
Admittedly, DC fast chargers are way too expensive (ours are ~30,000€) to have your own and the grid companies prefer to place them close to their transformers or they build a new 25kV/400V transformer, just for one or two 100 kW DC chargers. Costs for such additional transformers are simply added to grid usage fees, thus paid by all customers. We have 3-phase 415 V AC everywhere down the road to each house, as rob smith explained. So, my appartment flat has such 3P, 415V, 3 x 32A power connection. But I can't even have the weakest type of (industrial) 3P, 415V, 16A CEE socket here (not within my flat, not in my basement room belonging to my flat, nowhere outside the building). The flat's powerful connection (3 x 32A x 230V = 22 kilowatts) is only used to supply two dozen independent circuits, each 230V, 16A including an (3x16A=11kW) electric cooker and a dozen separate 16A socket circuits. Almost impossible to trip a fuse here. The whole building has a 415V, 3 x 200 320amps connection shared by 20 appartments.

[...] cruise control(2.7kw w/o sport mode, the motor is 140hp with 327ftlbs of torque) is 58 miles [...]
I thought that this strange non-standard, non-metric, non-SI unit of horsepower (hp) would be forgotten as soon as we have electric vehicles... Nope.

240v here is actually two bonded 120v hot wires, not true 240v ac, even weirder there is a voltage in the US called 277v which is three 120v hot wires, which uses black, red, blue for hot, white is neutral, and green or bare copper is ground.
Understood. We have 400V, 3 AC phases offset by 120 degrees. That means up to 415v between each two of three phases and ~230 volts between each phase and ground. So you can easily splitup a 415V socket (3 hot wires) to three 230 V (one hot) circuits with a simple adaptor you can buy in DIY markets.

Now, I have an idea... I can get some 2.5mm² (~AWG13) cables (3 cores: brown for hot, blue is neutral, yellow/green to ground), three 230V CEE7/4 plugs and one red 415V, 16A (industrial) CEE17 socket. Then I could manufacture my own "special" adaptor connecting the three 230V plugs to separate cables, all feeding the needed 415 V, 16A CEE socket for my EV. The difficult part would be to identify three separate sockets in my flat which are fed by three distinct 230V circuits, each attached to a distinct phase to truely balance the load from the 415 V socket across all available phases. From an electrical point of view this should be safe, if properly connected. But I fear that's outside the agreed terms and conditions of my grid company. What a pity.

What did I learned as a child in TV movies? "Remember, don't try this at home, kids. I am a professional." ....which I am clearly not.

So I'll stick with my old, paid-off bicycle for the time being.... that is until grid improvements.
ID: 2133868 · Report as offensive
Profile Wiggo
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Jan 00
Posts: 38117
Credit: 261,360,520
RAC: 489
Australia
Message 2133869 - Posted: 13 Mar 2024, 23:34:52 UTC

Congrats Vic.

Cheers.
ID: 2133869 · Report as offensive
Scrooge McDuck
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Nov 99
Posts: 1678
Credit: 1,674,173
RAC: 54
Germany
Message 2133876 - Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 2:13:52 UTC - in response to Message 2133871.  

Thanks Wiggo, yes the NEXT thread is up and everyone can migrate over there. Stick a fork in this one, as it's done.
Not yet, Kameraden... not yet... (05m05s)

Congratz Vic!
ID: 2133876 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 . . . 12 · 13 · 14 · 15

Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPHW CCCXXXI


 
©2025 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.