The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean"

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Message 2105902 - Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 15:30:17 UTC - in response to Message 2105879.  

Donny sure is a losing sucker. LOL
He always lets his little head do his thinking as he has rectal cranial inversion.
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Message 2106044 - Posted: 31 Aug 2022, 7:41:08 UTC

Just received a link to a Washington Post story, about the FBI raid and the revue. Justice Dept. says Trump team may have hidden, moved classified papers and found similar at Reuters - U.S. Justice Dept says Trump team may have moved classified papers amid probe
The filing traces the extraordinary saga of government officials’ repeated efforts to recover sensitive national security papers from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club, centered on a storage room where prosecutors came to suspect that “government records were likely concealed and removed … and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation.”
The agents also came to doubt claims by Trump’s team that the storage room was the only place where such documents might be found.

When agents conducted their court-ordered search on Aug. 8, they found material so sensitive that “even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents,” the filing says.
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Message 2106047 - Posted: 31 Aug 2022, 8:45:21 UTC - in response to Message 2106044.  

When agents conducted their court-ordered search on Aug. 8, they found material so sensitive that “even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents,” the filing says.


If they were classified at the sort of level that required additional clearance then what the chuff-chuff were they doing outside a properly authorised and secured location once they had been used by the intended recipient. Generally (in the UK) such documents are sealed for at least 100 years, and that term can be extended, rarely reduced, and even more rarely does their classification get reduced in their first twenty or so years. If the situation is similar in the US then the "holder" of said documents is in deep do-do regardless of the position they held when they were given sight of them.
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Message 2106055 - Posted: 31 Aug 2022, 11:54:28 UTC - in response to Message 2106047.  
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If they were classified at the sort of level that required additional clearance then what the chuff-chuff were they doing outside a properly authorised and secured location once they had been used by the intended recipient.


This is (the only reason) why I would finally break from my usual caution and conclude that there will be an indictment of Donald Trump. Anything else he's possibly done ie tax evasion needs to have intent proven as well as the act itself (did he just forget to pay or make an honest mistake?) This can be very difficult and of course prosecutors know this and may decline to act if intent can't be shown.

The security level of these documents doesn't require intent. It's the legal equivalent in severity and prosecutability of being caught with a similar number of kiddie porn hardcopy photos. Simple possession alone is enough for a solid case. To this can be added the possible (until proven) obstruction and certain lies given to the relevant authorities about them. The latter I can also say without waiting for a conviction in a court of law because several of the excuses provided by Trump and/or his legal team contradicted each other.
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Message 2106088 - Posted: 1 Sep 2022, 7:59:08 UTC

His lawyers argue: "The notion that Presidential records would contain sensitive information should have never been cause for alarm."

So, so true - he should have returned them straight after his defeat in 2020, and certainly straight after Biden being "approved" in January 2021.
The more I read about this case the more I feel that this may just be the tip of a very messy iceberg which brings the whole of the USA' political establishment under the microscope of the law and the media.

(Extract is from this posting https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62747381 )
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Message 2106096 - Posted: 1 Sep 2022, 9:36:26 UTC
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Will they roll or will they fold?

Two Trump lawyers could be witnesses or targets in FBI investigation.

And seeing as he's getting no funds for new cases against him by the RNC he's looking to the brain dead losers and suckers for the $'s.

Trump Has a New Sucker to Pay for His Latest Legal Bills.

But then that's how Donny lives, on other peoples hard earned cash.
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Message 2106121 - Posted: 1 Sep 2022, 18:56:54 UTC
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Just ransacking of a home makes for an indictment as a result, and therefore you could be a criminal.

Perhaps Donald Trump did not make me any favor either, but only exposed or revealed state or government secrets for what they could be.

So who hired you, for not any lawyer either, and next it becomes only the Directorate of National Intelligence (DNI) for such a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_compartmented_information

Compare that with other links for that of reading other places, and you could be making a more complete picture of what this could be all about.
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Message 2106213 - Posted: 3 Sep 2022, 6:33:02 UTC - in response to Message 2106210.  

GOP candidate calls for 'pitchforks and torches' as he fumes over the 'liberal media'.

This candidate is certainly due arrest on charges of incitement to riot and other civil disorder charges.
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Message 2106222 - Posted: 3 Sep 2022, 10:57:37 UTC

Any papers labeled with a security clearance should be declassified first, by means of the appropriate stamp on the paper itself.

But here he chose to take the papers back home, because he signed off as president after he had done so.

One small culprit here is that I am sitting in a chair most of the time, but not with my knees on the lap, but here another story just instead.

More that I assume that any people receiving a security clearance should be clean for that of Mentality, and therefore not committing any crime.

But next he became a spy or inflitrator instead, for not any cryptographic secret either, and for that, he delievered the documents to a foreign state.

Here I already know that some people could be thinking what to do for not what to do, for still different elements for their separate considerations.

Either wrong for just one thing for not another, but next it could become a choice between an Impeachment, for not any indictment instead.

But here getting to me that an Impeachment should be for a sitting President in Office, when he could be still Commander in Chief.

For that, it becomes still the Executive Office of the President, but next he chose to downgrade the documents for that of personal need,
for not any similar stamp instead.

This is really mishandling of documents in my opinion, because he should not have brought the home, but left them over to Nara here instead.

But here that FBI chose to break in on his mansion for that of a suspicion, and next also a Court order for having such a right.

In my opinion such documents should be only read or kept in the oval Office, except still left to Nara or DNI for the other alternative.

Remember that TS/SCI is eyes only when stil a clearance for such, and next you should still think he should be clean for only being a president.

These documents should still not be telling about any aliens for only Existence, but only Putin for a good friend when it could be still a hug.

Nevertheless, for still only things going on and happening in this world, it could be still the clandestine happening in the shadows, for only making such things happening.

Just noble for that of noblety, for still not any cruelty, but next that a spy could be still an infiltrator for only working in disguise.
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Message 2106224 - Posted: 3 Sep 2022, 13:00:20 UTC - in response to Message 2106222.  

... such documents should be only read or kept in the oval Office...

Exactly so!

All the rest of the Trump paper trail goes completely against keeping secret documents secret...


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Message 2106233 - Posted: 3 Sep 2022, 15:22:21 UTC

Wait a sec. He supposedly declassified everything he had. That would include his tax returns right?!
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Message 2106236 - Posted: 3 Sep 2022, 15:57:15 UTC - in response to Message 2106233.  

He may be pointing an unpleasantly noisy bang-making device at his feet......
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Message 2106254 - Posted: 3 Sep 2022, 21:40:36 UTC

He may be pointing an unpleasantly noisy bang-making device at his feet......
So long as he doesn't damage his pumped up heels he'll still stand tall even if his toes are all gone. LOL

Anyhow I'm expecting more raids to happen on Donny's other properties very soon as well as the properties of some of his stooges over those papers from those empty folders (if he hasn't already sold them on or some foreign spy didn't just walk in and pick them up).

But it looks like it has shaken up 1 of those stooges to come cleaner.

Meadows Turned In New Batches of Texts and Emails After FBI Mar-a-Lago Raid.

And then Scruffy Stephen who proves himself to be just another loser yet again (just like his loser of a buddy Donny).

Trump-appointed judge slams Steve Bannon's request for new contempt of Congress trial.
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Message 2106269 - Posted: 4 Sep 2022, 3:52:29 UTC

And here only so sad for the other email or message I got.

But in summary, it could end up being the Justice Department sentencing or subpoeaning a possible crime a
former president could have been committing during his presidency.

Except not any knees for only resting on a chair, I just think that picking up papers for bringing it home,
he perhaps should be indicted for this, when it also could be a couple of other things in the shadows.

Only so sad still, for just only a pity, but I keep well with the former president for supporting him most of the time,
except a couple of errors he perhaps made..

One thing is declassyfing material for still only papers when also doucments for such a thing, but next it also should be labeled for such.

But really it does not show up at all, and next it should be still only classified for the secret or Top secret it perhaps could be.

Here I do not think it was meant to be sold in any way, but just "blunt" for that of curiosity or inquisitive, when in some kind you could be
involved in that of a story.

I better post that word for that of Word link, because I do not think he was such a thing for only naive, but perhaps only meant it
should be only the thing he could do.
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Message 2106301 - Posted: 4 Sep 2022, 20:32:55 UTC

How SUPERDonny Laughs.

I'm OBSSESSED with SUPERDONs GREATNESS

Any One Else OBSSESSED?

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Message 2106345 - Posted: 5 Sep 2022, 9:16:39 UTC

Why can't some see what Donny really wants?

Trump Repeats Praise of 'Smart' Putin, Touts Xi's 'Iron Fist' Rule of China.

He just wants total control and the rest of the picture isn't looking good either. And his childish rants continue.

Trump accused Fox News of 'pushing' Democrats' agenda and said if CNN 'went conservative,' it'd be an 'absolute gold mine' and he'd help.
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