Hi, everyone!

Two articles posted today, before the final report.

https://nypost.com/2021/06/16/ufos-could-threaten-u-s-security-pols-say-after-briefing/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow
UFOs could threaten US security, pols say after Capitol Hill briefing

Just in time for Independence Day.

Capitol Hill lawmakers said Wednesday that UFOs could pose a pressing threat to America’s national security, as the pols emerged from a highly classified briefing with Navy and FBI officials on the unexplained phenomena.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9694911/Politicians-express-concern-impact-UFOs-national-security-following-briefing.html
'UFOs could pose a threat to America's national security': Capitol Hill lawmakers issue dire warning after classified briefing ahead of Pentagon's highly anticipated report on unidentified flying objects

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Thanks, Lynn, for all your good work in finding and sharing information about the anticipated UAP Report to Congress. Now we're told that the report prompts fears for national security in those who've gotten a look at it. It doesn't sound as if UAPs can simply be written off as natural phenomena , or observer errors, or illusions created by faults in detection equipment. None of those things, of course, represent potential threats to national security.

I would emphasize here that the UAP/UFO phenomenon has been with us for at least the last 80 years. During all that time it has displayed the same sort of astonishing flight capabilities as revealed in the most recent reports. These objects have been fired upon by our military a number of times. Despite these provocations the phenomenon was remained peaceful, and not sought to retaliate.

Most sources are now saying that the report will come out on Friday, June 25th, just 9 days from now. I'm certain that a great many persons await with keen interest the public release of the report, and whatever may follow on from that release.

Capitol Hill lawmakers said Wednesday that UFOs could pose a pressing threat to America’s national security, as the pols emerged from a highly classified briefing with Navy and FBI officials on the unexplained phenomena.

really now--need we be sanctimonious about this nonsense.
And then what is the response and preparation for this pressing threat?

Assuming these headline captions are true and not just click bait: The ignorance and poor quality of our politicians and leaders is stunning. Or--is it just the desire to keep the populace fearful and dependant on government and more spending to tilt at wind mills.

... The ignorance and poor quality of our politicians and leaders is stunning...

The ignorance and poor quality of our politicians and leaders is indeed disastrously stunning.

Sadly embarrassingly so.


But then, we over here in the UK have Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock as the top comedy duo...

Kinda reminds me of the old Hancock's Half Hour...


Stay safe folks!
Martin

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They will probably Mod us off into the Politics thread. Sadly todays "Science" is in reality --Politics

IMHO I don't put much credit in the so-called worthless "security experts" within the walls of the Pentagon.

Go back in history a few decades to 'Operation Blue Book' which was a big waste of time, money, and brain power.

Just another way to keep themselves in a cushy overpaid government job with the US taxpayers paying for their salaries.

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Warning.
While it is OK to discuss the science, or lack of science, depending on your point of view recent posts are getting very political in nature.
So, it is up to you, continue with these discussions without the political overtones, or this thread will move elsewhere.

REMEMBER - This thread is about the science of UFOs, not the politics that some have encumbered this subject with.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

If these UAPs are of extra-terrestrial origin then we have been at risk for such a long time that trying to increase our national security is a waste of time, money and effort. We are at their mercy. If the UAPs are real objects and of terrestrial origin then who are they and where are they from. If they are ghost returns, reflections or some other natural events they need to quit wasting everybody's time.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Agreed, if UAPs represented a danger to national security, then this should have been obvious, well before now. The phenomenon has been with us many decades. If another Earthly nation has such capabilities, and the military advantages it confers, it seems inevitable that history would not have gone the way it has. There is no supporting evidence that such an improbable technological leap has been made by any nation on this planet.

I was merely interested in the Senator's reactions, citing concerns about national security, because it implies that the evidence is strong enough to support the evaluation that the UAP phenomenon is something real and technological, not merely a natural phenomenon, observer error, or technical glitches.
We are left, by the process of elimination, with the high probability that the UAP phenomenon represents evidence of visits by extraterrestrial intelligences.

Today is UFO Disappearance Day.

In 1977, Michael Schenker, guitarist with the UFO rock group, disappeared without a trace after a show in Leeds, England. He was finally located about six months later in Germany. His reason for disappearing? He just didn't know how to say, "I quit."

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This thread is about the science of UFOs.....

I Don't Know dA Science of UFOs.

Do dA Greatest of Sci-Fi Authors know da Science of UFOs?

Do da Greatest of Earth Scientists know da Science of UFOs?

Do any Earthlings know dA Science of UFOs? Ever?

If they are here, they must be Underwater - Surrounded by Water - or Underwater inside Mountains; Basins; Plains. Their Coming and Going
99.99999999999% of time Not Noticed.

If they Teleport themselves and sometimes vehicles, well then, why Fly About and Get Noticed?

One of da Pols was quoted sayin' Weee da Weeee Peoples will be 'Disappointed'.

Thank GOoDness fO Books; Movies; and Our Own Imaginations.

Yep

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

It appears that the United States Air Force, not to be outdone by Navy UFO reports, is building a UAP /UFO tracking station of its own in Florida. This information comes from the Florida official in charge of issuing of the relevant building permit, so it seems reasonably well attested. It appears probable that it is the recent stir about UAPs that got the A.F. going on this. Further information in the article, linked below:

https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2021/06/report-claims-ufo-tracking-station-is-being-built-on-floridas-gulf-coast-by-the-air-force

nice find, Michael. Also thanks. Yep, was going to tell everyone about the report 6/25/2021.

Couple missed articles.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/11/i-study-ufos-and-i-dont-believe-the-alien-hype-heres-why

https://www.foxnews.com/world/infamous-tic-tac-ufo-spotted-by-u-s-navy-pilot-now-seen-over-england
Infamous ‘Tic Tac’ UFO spotted by U.S. Navy pilot now seen over England

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Yes, Lynn, I'm familiar with Mr. Mick West's work. David Fravor, one of the Navy pilots who witnessed the 'tic-tac' UFO, explains why West's explanations won't fly. Please see a link, below, to a video interview where he speaks on this issue.

By the way, I can supply a 'tic-tac' report of my own. On Friday, June 11th, at about 4:45 p.m., my local time, there was a small brush fire nearby. I heard the sirens and circling spotter planes, and went out to see how close the fire might be.

While watching the planes I spotted a small, rounded, whitish object to the North. It appeared to hold its position. I got my binoculars and studied the object. It appeared more oval than round, but not much more could be discerned.

Hauled out my 90 mm refractor telescope and directed it at the object. It now definitely appeared elongated. I could see highlights on the object, from the way the Sun struck it. It had a bright spot near the center, and additional highlights around the edges.

I was considering the possibility that the object was a balloon, until I realized that the long axis of the oval was neither vertical or horizontal. It maintained a slanted angle, with respect to the horizon, for the several minutes I was able to observe it.

It then appeared to drift very slowly to the East, and disappeared behind the intervening tree line. I examined many photographs of balloons, but could find none with an elongated balloon maintaining an oblique angle to the horizon. I have to class this object as anomalous.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CBt4CNHyAck

Yes! I follow the man in black! LOL. When the story first broke someone on the destroyer said those men came aboard, wiped down everything, left next to nothing on David Fravor carrier. Michael, the truth will prevail about Ufo's.

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Listen to this!

https://www.wtrf.com/news/bizarre/u-s-congressman-says-somethings-going-on-that-we-cant-handle-when-asked-about-ufos/
U.S. Congressman says ‘something’s going on that we can’t handle’ when asked about UFOs

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Is that the same Congressman who claimed we should somehow push our moon out of the way supposedly so as to stop global warming (so that we can profitably pollute yet more)?...

All a case of watching too much "as-seen-on-TV"?...


Instead, just keep with the facts?

Keep searchin',
Martin

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Suppose that the Pentagon and National Intelligence respond to Congress, just within the outside limit of the time set, and provide a detailed report on the UAP phenomenon. In that case, we have only three days to wait. Leaving it to the last minute like this could be an indication that they are cooperating only grudgingly, which is just what some sources have suggested.

It's interesting that the 180 day limit imposed by Congress happens to fall on a Friday. It's a tradition in Washington to release information you'd rather not have seen, late on a Friday afternoon. The theory goes that the release is made, and then everyone who can respond authoritatively to follow up questions goes home for the weekend. That leaves about 2 & 2/3 days for things to 'cool off'. The hope is that intreat will wane, or that some other event will divert interest elsewhere, in the interval.

That probably won't happen in this case, but Washington still has its traditions to uphold! Personally , I'd like to see the extraterrestrials, who are very likely behind the UAP phenomenon, make an immediate, overt response to that glimmer of light from the American capital. I must concede, though, that this doesn't appear especially likely, at this moment.

when they talk about phenomenon they will use a Oumuamua https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-possible-link-between-oumuamua-and-unidentified-aerial-phenomena/A Possible Link between ‘Oumuamua and Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

https://www.tmz.com/2021/06/21/senator-marco-rubio-ufo-report-pentagon-questions/
Pentagon's UFO Report ... I Expect More Questions Than Answers

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57559179
Pentagon UFO report: Here's what we know

A highly anticipated US government report on UFOs (unidentified flying objects) is due to be released before the end of June. Here's what we know so far.

The unclassified report was demanded by Congress after numerous reports from the US military of vehicles seen moving erratically in the sky.

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An interesting detail turned up in the above linked BBC article. Senator Reid was on the Senate committee that had direct contact with the Pentagon, and was privy to what it had learned about the UAP phenomenon. He remarked that we know, presumably through intelligence channels, that both China and Russia are studying the phenomenon, just as we are.

If either of them were responsible for the craft that display such astonishing flight capabilities, as more than a few persons have suggested, why would they need to be studying them? They would already know about how they worked, and where and when they had been deployed, and for what purpose.

One is reminded of the matter of World War II -era UFOs called 'foo-fighters'. These were strange glowing objects that darted about the European and Pacific war theaters,. They defied the laws of physics, followed planes, and mimicked their movements, just as UAPs do, today. Both Allied and Axis forces encountered these strange objects. Each was sure that they we new, secret weapons launched by the other side. They were each mistaken in this belief.