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mohavewolfpup Send message Joined: 20 Oct 18 Posts: 32 Credit: 3,666,574 RAC: 24 |
What exactly does "credit screw" mean? Historian for the Defunct Riviera Hotel and Casino, Former Classic Seti@home user for Team Art Bell. Greetings from the High Desert! |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13855 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
What exactly does "credit screw" mean?It's the term often used here at Seti for Credit New- which was a change in the way credit is awarded for work done which resulted in people getting a lot less Credit (a lot less) then they did before Credit New was brought in. AFAIK most other BOINC projects don't use it for that reason. Grant Darwin NT |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
I still think the title of this thread is very misleading as there is no Seti@Home and COVID-19. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Finally I got a minirosetta_3.7 task on a Linux box running in Science United. Also a Rosetta@home on a Windows 10 PC, also in Science United. Tullio |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
The purpose of this thread (as I understand it) was to highlight that there are BOINC projects out there that are researching this virus, that Setizens might wish to consider after the 31st March. No, the purpose was a little different... Advertise Science United not Boinc Projects... using the Covid-19 crisis as a propagand boy. Something highly questionable from the ethics point in some cultures. SETI@home will stop distributing tasks soon, but we encourage you to continue donate computing power to science research - in particular, research on the COVID-19 virus. The best way to do this is to join Science United and check the "Biology and Medicine" box. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I am running two Rosetta@home tasks , one in Windows 10 and the other in the Tumbleweed development version of OpenSuSE Linux. I know very well that I won't get any credit, only a weekly mail of thanks sent by a BoincAdmin. Tullio |
Dave Stegner Send message Joined: 20 Oct 04 Posts: 540 Credit: 65,583,328 RAC: 27 |
"No, the purpose was a little different... Advertise Science United not Boinc Projects... using the Covid-19 crisis as a propagand boy. Something highly questionable from the ethics point in some cultures." I agree and really did not appreciate it. Dave |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13855 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Many are finding Science United a duff idea. If you want to support a project helping Covid-19 try Folding at Home as many Setizens are, and have decided to do. Yes it is non-Boinc, so what?Or just attach directly to Rosetta as Wiggo suggested. Grant Darwin NT |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
One feature of Science United which I appreciate is the listing of CPU hours and GPU hours used by a project. One can immediately see which projects use GPUs and those which do not, also their relative weight in hours. Tullio |
Cavalary Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 104 Credit: 7,507,548 RAC: 38 |
Meanwhile, people were asking why no results after 10 years, then 15 years, and finally almost 20 years. In 2017 DA wrote a report that said that Seti@home was simply an experiment, and like all experiments, it should have a beginning and an end, and a conclusion. His report said that after 18 years, they hadn't found anything, and were just collecting data and doing nothing with it. In his view the original experiment was over. DA proposed a project called Nebula which introduced a new back end, which would use the Atlas cluster at Hanover. However, 3 years later the software isn't ready despite help from Eric K. Remember an interview with someone from SETI years ago, might have been on The Guardian (but not sure), which included an estimate that something will be found in the first half of the 2020s, with hints coming at most a couple of years before the breakthrough, if it won't be completely sudden, so it seems like there was no expectation of a result earlier anyway. And that's entirely reasonable, and I'd call even this extremely optimistic. As for what the project became for many, it is what it is, sometimes you should take a project where it goes instead of where it was "supposed" to be. |
philhoey Send message Joined: 27 Aug 99 Posts: 9 Credit: 5,711,108 RAC: 30 |
That is exactly what I am going to do when one of my machines finishes the existing SETI work. My other machine will keep running SETI until April 1st. |
Gouik Send message Joined: 4 Jun 15 Posts: 3 Credit: 54,215,636 RAC: 430 |
Sadly WCG doesn't make WU for covid-19... |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Or just attach directly to Rosetta@home. ;-) +1 A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Don't forget, there is already an over-arching Berkeley SETI Research Center, which includes SETI@Home but a whole lot more besides. Thank you for the link. There aren't any other Distributed Computing projects hidden in there? Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Gouik Send message Joined: 4 Jun 15 Posts: 3 Credit: 54,215,636 RAC: 430 |
I will switch to rosetta@home the 1st of april, glad that new wu comes laten on seti@home. In June i will celebrate 5 years of crunching for seti@home, it will not be the case. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Depends whether you count Breakthrough Listen...Don't forget, there is already an over-arching Berkeley SETI Research Center, which includes SETI@Home but a whole lot more besides.Thank you for the link. There aren't any other Distributed Computing projects hidden in there? It's noticeable that the co-operation between BL and SaH has been terminated, for the time being at least - no more BLC tapes being added to the SSP. On one level, that makes sense - the purpose of the hibernation is to free up resources for the 20-year analysis, and we don't yet have 20 years of comparable BLC records. But on the other hand, I think it's on the record that the SaH algorithm provides the most sensitive signal processing of all the SETI projects. The others are more "never mind the quality, feel the width". It would be good to find a way of injecting the SaH signal processing technology into the other data sources, irrespective of whether it's done at the telescope, in the lab, or 'at home'. |
Rudolf Send message Joined: 6 Aug 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 7,109,251 RAC: 0 |
been a cruncher on and off since 1999. Sorry to see its over.......that is all. |
Igogo Send message Joined: 18 Dec 04 Posts: 125 Credit: 65,303,299 RAC: 44 |
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36836 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
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Igogo Send message Joined: 18 Dec 04 Posts: 125 Credit: 65,303,299 RAC: 44 |
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