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Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3806 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
So did you find anything and will you tell us where we can read your paper? We won't know if there are any findings until the Nebula analysis is completed, which we don't have a timeframe for either as it's still in development. I wouldn't expect anything for a few months at least. The resulting paper will definitely be made public; I'm pretty sure that this was already directly indicated by someone on the team who could make such a pronouncement; don't have the link handy though. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11416 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I am very unhappy the search is ending. Now the real science begins in earnest, Data collection has ended for the time being but looking at what has been done for the last 20 yrs plus is the object of this exercise. |
xe1ici Send message Joined: 9 Jan 19 Posts: 7 Credit: 16,535 RAC: 0 |
Bueno pues NADA ES PARA SIEMPRE !! |
Philippe Gindre Send message Joined: 10 Nov 13 Posts: 8 Credit: 4,428,971 RAC: 18 |
Being a complete layman in this field I am not entirely sure I'll be able to understand the answer to my own question ;-) but I'll ask it anyway: What about Breakthrough Listen? In my mind, the fact that BL data was now being processed by SETI@home seemed a strong indication that the project would last much longer in its present form. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Being a complete layman in this field I am not entirely sure I'll be able to understand the answer to my own question ;-) but I'll ask it anyway: What about Breakthrough Listen? In my mind, the fact that BL data was now being processed by SETI@home seemed a strong indication that the project would last much longer in its present form.That's a very good question, and I doubt anyone here knows the answer. People sometimes complain that the SETI@Home project has been taciturn over the years, slow to tell us what they're doing: but in comparison, Breakthrough Listen is positively Trappist. The most recent item on the Breakthrough Listen news feed talks about making more data available for other people to process, but is silent on who might be doing that processing. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
They collect, we process... but the analyse part stalls with Nebula... As I understand, main reason for hibernation is to finish Nebula and get results finally. "Results" that our computers return not real results in sense "yes, we found ET signal", they should be aggregated and summarized some way - that step Nebula should do. And to summarize them access to whole database of reported "signals"(in sense S@h client) required - that prevents DC-style of processing and limits our involvement in that stage. SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Yes, it's a three - no, four - stage pipeline: collect, process, analyse, publish. But if any one link in the chain is broken, the entire chain is useless. Up until now, the broken link has been the analysis. Now, we're proposing to break the processing link, to repair the analysis link. So there won't be anything more to analyse in future, despite the collection continuing at an ever-increasing pace. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Yes, it's a three - no, four - stage pipeline: collect, process, analyse, publish. Yep, "least of evil"-kind of decision - can't be really good.... Until SETI staff increased (I would say increase should be twice approx, at least 2 new persons with solid education in corresponding field and few graduates) it seems this inevitable... SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Philippe Gindre Send message Joined: 10 Nov 13 Posts: 8 Credit: 4,428,971 RAC: 18 |
To my utter amazement I seem to grasp the general idea. I have a much clearer view of the whole process now. Thank you very much to you all! |
~MAJOR.Patterson~ Send message Joined: 21 Dec 03 Posts: 1 Credit: 720,227 RAC: 14 |
This saddens me greatly =[ |
Tim Send message Joined: 21 Mar 12 Posts: 1 Credit: 158,197 RAC: 0 |
Or did they find something the goverment wouldnt tolerate and are shutting us down? |
Senator Send message Joined: 28 May 14 Posts: 3 Credit: 3,494,051 RAC: 0 |
Dang, after so many years, I really will miss the SETI project and all that great team of folks behind it, as well as the very many people who made this project great with their computers . Now where can I get tee shirts, caps, coffee mugs, etc? I want to always remember my time with SETI. Man will destroy the world because he does not obey the laws of nature and pretends to know the laws of God. -S Sullivan 1966 |
Jeff Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 2 Credit: 1,022,244 RAC: 3 |
Wow.Didn't realise how long I had been running this. In that time only three computers as well, I must be a cheapskate. This my first post as well? |
Sharpshooter Send message Joined: 26 Mar 00 Posts: 47 Credit: 5,127,861 RAC: 2 |
Art Bell got me started in this endeavor as well. I started crunching with a Pentium 200 with the vaunted EDO memory in 2000. My machines are old and soon to be retired so when this restarts I hope to hit the ground running faster. Until then. . . . . |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Dang, after so many years, I really will miss the SETI project and all that great team of folks behind it, as well as the very many people who made this project great with their computers . https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=84072 I think you can still order/buy the 20th anniversary T-Shirts above. https://society6.com/mugs/seti Google claims coffee cups are above. Below is a selection of T-shirts and cups https://www.cafepress.com/+seti+gifts And you may be able to design a cap there too. HTH, Tom[/url] A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
RDam Send message Joined: 22 Feb 07 Posts: 1 Credit: 103,930 RAC: 1 |
Shall we meet at the restaurant at the end of the universe? Gonna miss it. Hope it returns with more projects in the future. |
chansw Send message Joined: 9 Apr 01 Posts: 2 Credit: 172,655 RAC: 3 |
Ok |
cbellerjeau Send message Joined: 6 Oct 05 Posts: 1 Credit: 5,032,212 RAC: 96 |
Wow, this really is the end of days... Or at least of an era. I've been with y'all since the early days, crunching all along the way. I'll think of you when I'm looking up at whatever night sky I happen to catch along the way between the light pollution. What we have down here among the lights is also amazing: a home allowing us the comfort and luxury to reach for the stars and think big. I suppose we are now entering a moment to really focus on that home. Maybe Corona will somehow help serve to kickstart the needed Green Revolution. To the SETI team. Thanks for the hopes and dreams and hard work. Don't let us miss your eventual journal article! And yes, thanks for all the fish. -c |
John Santillo Send message Joined: 31 May 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 6,738,265 RAC: 5 |
So your just stopping cold Turkey? No plans to collect additional data to analyze? What about the data already analyzed? I feel like i just wasted 20+ years and got nothing for it. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
So your just stopping cold Turkey? No plans to collect additional data to analyze? What about the data already analyzed? I feel like i just wasted 20+ years and got nothing for it. Please re-read the post announcing the HIBERNATION of SETI@Home. They have 20 years of data, that they have collected from us, that needs analyzed and it CANNOT be done through distributed computing. What we are doing now is giving diminishing returns. Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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