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Message 2034396 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 12:35:23 UTC - in response to Message 2034395.  

While the finger test can be good, it can be somewhat misleading :-(
GPU temperature sensors tend to be well buried within the chips themselves and so the surface temperature will be somewhat lower than that where the probes are.

Book your passage to Antarctica ;-)


After looking into Antarctica, its way to cold, will look at another solution, the fridge is no good, to much condensation lol.

Oh well, will have to look at other options.

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Message 2034408 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 14:26:32 UTC

And now a more serious comment.
A few years ago I had an i7 which refused to run at anything other than stupidly hot. Eventually I tried replacing the thermal paste on the CPU, this helped little, but didn't cure the problem, so I tried again, and noticed that the top of the CPU's metal case wasn't lying parallel to the bottom of the pin-plane - the CPU hadn't been assembled properly in the factory. I eventually got the money from the RMA, but Intel fought all the way.
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Message 2034417 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 15:59:04 UTC - in response to Message 2034408.  

And now a more serious comment.
A few years ago I had an i7 which refused to run at anything other than stupidly hot. Eventually I tried replacing the thermal paste on the CPU, this helped little, but didn't cure the problem, so I tried again, and noticed that the top of the CPU's metal case wasn't lying parallel to the bottom of the pin-plane - the CPU hadn't been assembled properly in the factory. I eventually got the money from the RMA, but Intel fought all the way.

Hi Rob,

I've seen a lot of videos about that. If you lay the CPU on a flat surface, HS* down, like a pane of glass and give it a spin, if it continues to spin, that's not good. I also saw that the users creating the videos would lap the HS, on a pane of glass to reduce the hump to practically nothing. This helps a lot. My thought is that this should be done with the CPU de-lidded. I guess that during manufacturing some HSs will be warped. Just some food for thought. :)

*HS - Heat Spreader.

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Message 2034420 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 16:05:54 UTC

The heat spreader was flat, but the spreader itself wasn't aligned properly with the rest of the chip assembly so wan't making proper thermal contact with the top of the chip - Intel did eventually admit this was a manufacturing fault that affected a very few assemblies - they paid for my Xeon replacement despite it being an upgrade not a direct replacement, so fair game on them in the end.
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Message 2034463 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 22:28:23 UTC - in response to Message 2034420.  

The heat spreader was flat, but the spreader itself wasn't aligned properly with the rest of the chip assembly so wan't making proper thermal contact with the top of the chip - Intel did eventually admit this was a manufacturing fault that affected a very few assemblies - they paid for my Xeon replacement despite it being an upgrade not a direct replacement, so fair game on them in the end.

Hi Rob,

That's good to hear. Glad they took care of it for you. :)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2034475 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 23:32:08 UTC - in response to Message 2034393.  

Running in PC case in a room of ambiet temp of around 26C, with side cover off, it still manages to get to around 77c - 80c.

Well thats not good, but then I did the websearch on this model, turns out, its very common for this model of card, cheap cooling solution.
What is it's fan speed?
If it's/they're not running very fast, give MSI Afterburner a go to crank up the fan speed.
The BIOSes in many video cards tend to be rather conservative when it comes to noise- many GPUs are rated for 90°c or more maximum temperature, and often the BIOS fan control will let it get up to that before really cranking up the fans.
Also if you have a spare 140mm case fan & motherboard header, or just a small desk fan to blow some cooler air in to the case that should make a big difference (a 5° to 7° drop).
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Message 2034533 - Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 3:40:12 UTC - in response to Message 2034475.  

Running in PC case in a room of ambiet temp of around 26C, with side cover off, it still manages to get to around 77c - 80c.

Well thats not good, but then I did the websearch on this model, turns out, its very common for this model of card, cheap cooling solution.
What is it's fan speed?
If it's/they're not running very fast, give MSI Afterburner a go to crank up the fan speed.
The BIOSes in many video cards tend to be rather conservative when it comes to noise- many GPUs are rated for 90°c or more maximum temperature, and often the BIOS fan control will let it get up to that before really cranking up the fans.
Also if you have a spare 140mm case fan & motherboard header, or just a small desk fan to blow some cooler air in to the case that should make a big difference (a 5° to 7° drop).


Greetings

Well its a mild start to the day, with a slight breeze outside, so this cruncher with RTX 2060 is now sitting outside on top of a fridge (at least its not in it - Fridge still works) and its shaded.

Current state is - Side panel off, fan speed at 60% (2041rpm) and sitting around 73 degrees Celsius.

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Message 2034535 - Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 4:10:21 UTC - in response to Message 2034533.  

Current state is - Side panel off, fan speed at 60% (2041rpm) and sitting around 73 degrees Celsius.
That is a very timid BIOS when it comes to cooling.
On my cards, the Fans generally keep them around 70°c, but when they are really working hard and get up to 80°c the fans quickly ramp up to 80-85% to stop them from getting any hotter. I always buy cards with 3 fans, the ambient temperature here is often in the mid to high 30°s. Rarely does it get below mid 20°s.
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Message 2034549 - Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 7:24:23 UTC - in response to Message 2034535.  

Hi Grant

Yes, could have been worse though, could I have gotten those single fan ones, I knew to stay away from those ones.

Yes a three fan GPU would have been better, outside ambient temp is around 27 degrees celsius.

I put up a side fan, blowing air directly onto the GPU as well, well now at least I stopped it going above 80 degrees celsius.

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Message 2034551 - Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 7:37:31 UTC - in response to Message 2034549.  

I put up a side fan, blowing air directly onto the GPU as well, well now at least I stopped it going above 80 degrees celsius.
Will be interesting to see how it goes when things start getting warm again.
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Message 2034564 - Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 9:04:29 UTC - in response to Message 2034551.  

I put up a side fan, blowing air directly onto the GPU as well, well now at least I stopped it going above 80 degrees celsius.
Will be interesting to see how it goes when things start getting warm again.


Well our forecast for this week is averaging around min 18c - max 31 deg c.

Might see how it goes during the night

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Message 2034565 - Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 9:09:04 UTC - in response to Message 2034564.  

Well our forecast for this week is averaging around min 18c - max 31 deg c.

Might see how it goes during the night
Be interesting to see how much the fan speed backs off. But when the temperatures get to the mid 30°s and higher will be the real test.
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Message 2036206 - Posted: 6 Mar 2020, 8:44:16 UTC - in response to Message 2034565.  

Well seeing how SETI is going into hibernation, I thought I would also put this adventure to bed as well.

I couldn't let this beat me, so I went away and did some more research and ask a few questions from a few teammates.

Well it was staring at me in the face, the answer that is, invoked a powerlimit on the RTX 2060

used nvidia-smi -i 0 -pl 130

Now with an ambient temp around 27c this beast is running around 74c which is way better than 80c

Also fan speed is around 1800 rpm and the side of the case is off as well,

Well its a road that I can now travel down, just doing Einstein so not as intense, but I now have things to look at if I do some GPUGRID or PRIMEGRID lol.

Thanks for the memories and Happy Crunching whereever your rigs may end up.s

Alas some might have the proverbial fire sales via different second hand markets though.
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