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Xeon Phi 7120P is it usable for S@H ?
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Piotr Send message Joined: 24 May 17 Posts: 18 Credit: 20,069,282 RAC: 41 |
Hello, The question as in header, I can get a Phi7120 cheaply. Is it making any sens anyway, or better get more classic GPUs? Regards, Peter |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
Nope. BOINC has no provisions for that kind of device as far as I’m aware. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
Piotr Send message Joined: 24 May 17 Posts: 18 Credit: 20,069,282 RAC: 41 |
Thanks for confirming what I thought, Considerig this: https://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-phi-x200-knights-landing-boots-windows/ Boinc could run 256 of S@H tasks, well @1,3GHz would go slooooow. One I can get is 7120 is former generation and even if somehow I could manage it, I presume energy costs per FLOP makes no sense. |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
Even if you got it recognized as 256 CPU cores, you still wouldn’t be able to run 256 concurrent jobs at SETI since the project here limits you to holding only 150 at a time. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
-= Vyper =- Send message Joined: 5 Sep 99 Posts: 1652 Credit: 1,065,191,981 RAC: 2,537 |
It's obsolete these days. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/75799/intel-xeon-phi-coprocessor-7120p-16gb-1-238-ghz-61-core.html Only 16G ram, 61 cores @ 1.2Ghz! I think a 3700X is faster than that Phi board. 16 * 3800Mhz is around 60000 Mhz roughly the same and then you've got FPU enhancements and it's pipeline. _________________________________________________________________________ Addicted to SETI crunching! Founder of GPU Users Group |
Piotr Send message Joined: 24 May 17 Posts: 18 Credit: 20,069,282 RAC: 41 |
Obviously, after looking @ top machines setup, here at S@H the only conclusion is linux + nvidia. |
-= Vyper =- Send message Joined: 5 Sep 99 Posts: 1652 Credit: 1,065,191,981 RAC: 2,537 |
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Piotr Send message Joined: 24 May 17 Posts: 18 Credit: 20,069,282 RAC: 41 |
Thank's for info on uefi. Is my current Lenovo C30 double Xeon v2 machine suitable for them? Another question is, if my current Quadro P2000 GPUs would work better under linux? If so I think I will convert this host to linux. I found info of End of life for Intel Phi products, so that's why prices are diving. Anyway it would be an intersting experiment to run Boinc on Phi 72xx Knights Landing which suport AVX512. Ommm.. BTW is S@H code using AVX2 or AVX512? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 37038 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Many have tried to get those things working here since they were 1st introduced, but none have succeeded. Cheers. |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
SETI does not take advantage of AVX2 or AVX512. An AVX2 app exists, but it’s just the same code recompiled for AVX2. It doesn’t run any faster than the AVX app. Your nvidia cards will run better on Linux providing that you use the Special CUDA application. No problem with Xeon E5 v2 chips. That’s what I like to use. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
Piotr Send message Joined: 24 May 17 Posts: 18 Credit: 20,069,282 RAC: 41 |
Good news, Thanks! But I'm still realy amazed that Phi could not be harnessed for Seti… of cource it's energy inefficient regarding todays hardware achivements but theoreticly schould work as shown in the link I've cited previously, Cinebanch run on Phi just right off the box. |
-= Vyper =- Send message Joined: 5 Sep 99 Posts: 1652 Credit: 1,065,191,981 RAC: 2,537 |
For what it seems there seems to be a UEFI bios, but not fully compliant. Could work though. Quadro P2000 seems to be a Cuda 6.1 so it would work better in Linux. Run TBars all_in_one package aswell and your system should fly! _________________________________________________________________________ Addicted to SETI crunching! Founder of GPU Users Group |
Piotr Send message Joined: 24 May 17 Posts: 18 Credit: 20,069,282 RAC: 41 |
For what it seems there seems to be a UEFI bios, but not fully compliant. Could work though. Thanks! |
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