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Message 2039736 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:10:19 UTC

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Message 2039737 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:10:26 UTC - in response to Message 2039729.  

Determining the number of cases is difficult because the typical COVID-19 symptoms — cough, fever, fatigue — are similar to other illnesses, such as the flu, that are prevalent this time of year. Moreover, 80 percent of cases have only mild to moderate symptoms and do not attract medical attention.
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Message 2039741 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:20:20 UTC - in response to Message 2039736.  

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Message 2039744 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:29:57 UTC - in response to Message 2039741.  

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Message 2039745 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:33:13 UTC - in response to Message 2039737.  

Yep, no denying that, but when one is confronted by officialdom & their bumptious attitudes, one tends to...
She adds that they feel the eventual mortality rate for the virus will be around 1%
...now, if the word "estimated" was used before the 1%. even though harsh to a degree, would have been more acceptable as they have already "estimated" that 7.9m may end up infected.
1% of that is 79,000 dead, okay I suppose if one is not one of them or a family member is not one.

This whole debacle was not thought out, just reacting to events.
The biggest elephant in the room is logistical.
The vulnerable & those that have to self isolate, WTH do they do when their supplies run out & the shelves are empty?
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Message 2039762 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 21:47:45 UTC - in response to Message 2039729.  

A real % cannot be provided until the pandemic is over, everything else is just assumptions.
Yes. I checked the mortality rates for these countries yesterday from the given numbers and one can see that number doesn't add up to reality. For example why should the mortality rate in Italy be 10 times higher then in Sweden? Makes no sense.

Mortality rates
World 4.1%
Sweden 0.7%
UK 4.4%
US 1.5%
Italy 8.3%

The discrepancies between countries are obviously depending on how many people that are tested in each country.
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Message 2039772 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 0:21:57 UTC - in response to Message 2039762.  

The scope of testing is different between countries, of course. Here in France, actual infections could be up to ten times as high as reported, because people are only tested if they have life-threatening symptoms, are specifically at risk, are medical personnel... or are politicians. Even deaths are under-reported because the official number only counts people who die at the hospital after being tested (and not people who die at home or in old people homes).

Besides accounting differences, you also have to remember that people are infected before they die. If the spread of cases is very recent, some people haven't had time to die (yet), but they will eventually.
Gazing at the skies, hoping for contact... Unlikely, but it would be such a fantastic opportunity to learn.

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Message 2039806 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 4:33:13 UTC - in response to Message 2039772.  

Confirmed cases of novel coronavirus as of Sunday, March 22.

Alabama: 157
Alaska: 14
Arizona: 152 (including two deaths)
Arkansas: 165
California: 1,468 (including 32 deaths)
Colorado: 591 (including six deaths)
Connecticut: 327 (including five deaths)
Delaware: 47
District of Columbia: 98 (including two deaths)
Florida: 1,001 (including 12 deaths)
Georgia: 620 (including 25 deaths)
Guam: 14 (including one death)
Hawaii: 56 (state revised from 59)
Idaho: 47
Illinois: 1,049 (including nine deaths)
Indiana: 201 (including six deaths)
Iowa: 90
Kansas: 64 (including two deaths)
Kentucky: 103 (including three deaths)
Louisiana: 837 (including 20 deaths)
Maine: 89
Maryland: 244 (including three deaths)
Massachusetts: 646 (including five deaths)
Michigan: 1,035 (including eight deaths)
Minnesota: 169 (including one death)
Mississippi: 207 (including one death)
Missouri: 90 (including three deaths)
Montana: 27
Nebraska: 42
Nevada: 190 (including two deaths)
New Hampshire: 65
New Jersey: 1,914 (including 20 deaths)
New Mexico: 65
New York: 15,168 (including 114 deaths)
North Carolina: 254
North Dakota: 30
Ohio: 351 (including three deaths)
Oklahoma: 67 (including two deaths)
Oregon: 161 (including five deaths)
Pennsylvania: 479 (including two deaths)
Puerto Rico: 23
Rhode Island: 83
South Carolina: 195 (including three deaths)
South Dakota: 21 (including one death)
Tennessee: 505 (including one death)
Texas: 334 (including six deaths)
US Virgin Islands: 6
Utah: 181 (including one death)
Vermont: 52 (including two deaths)
Virginia: 219 (including three deaths)
Washington: 1,996 (including 95 deaths)
West Virginia: 16
Wisconsin: 381 (including four deaths)

Wyoming: 26

Stay well everyone. :-)
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Message 2039814 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 6:24:24 UTC

Why do I find this story strangely satisfying?

Harvey Weinstein tests positive for coronavirus
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Message 2039833 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 10:58:26 UTC

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Message 2039916 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 16:59:01 UTC
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Now at 4.5%
There are now 350,000 confirmed cases worldwide, with almost 15,000 deaths and nearly 100,000 people recovering.
The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) says the coronavirus pandemic is "accelerating".
Speaking at a press briefing in Geneva, WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said: “It took 67 days from the first reported case to reach 100,000 cases, 11 days for the second 100,000 cases, and just four days for the third 100,000 cases.”
He said he would address G20 heads of state and government this week to ask them to work together to boost production of protective gear.
Should've listened to Bill Gates 5 years ago.
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Message 2039919 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 17:12:26 UTC - in response to Message 2039814.  
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... this story strangely satisfying?

Harvey Weinstein tests positive for coronavirus

I would hope that people shouldn't consider so, even for such a despicable misogynist.

We've already got far too much nastiness in the world already. There is no need to be adding any sad retributions.

All very sad all round...


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Message 2039921 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 17:17:13 UTC

Way to go Yanks. Whatever happened to unity?
Mr Cuomo echoed concerns from officials throughout the country about states competing against each other for supplies amid widespread shortages.
“I’m bidding up other states,” he said. “California offers them $4, I offer $5, another state calls in and offers $6. It’s not the way to do it.”
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Message 2039990 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 23:05:56 UTC
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Hitting some real world reality, here is a very clear deadpan summary that is simply and clearly informative:

YouTube: How does coronavirus compare to the Spanish Flu?



This is no partisan game... This is very much the real world of real people.

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Message 2040009 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 0:11:00 UTC

"Hannibal Smith" voice on
I love it when facts come together
"Hannibal Smith" voice off.

So, not the Spanish Flu after all but a mutated Bird/Swine Flu.
Hmm, as China was the 1st to report it, it'll be acceptable to call it "Chinese Flu". :-)
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Message 2040012 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 0:22:23 UTC
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FINALLY. Decision Made. (Not Yet Publicly Announced)

BALANCE.

Open Up where dA Risk is MINISCULE. Which is Almost Whole Country.

And Do What Needs to be Done in other parts to keep risk at lowest levels possible.

Gunna be as a Regular Flu Season; Albeit with NEW KNOWLEDGE of CV MITIGATION where NEEDED.

THANK GOoDness.

PANIC SOON to be Over.

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WINNING like a mO fO

SWEETNESS.

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SOON TO COME DECISION to get this COUNTRY BACK to What it Does Best.


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Message 2040014 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 1:03:22 UTC - in response to Message 2040012.  

Do you know what a pandemic is? If it's not there now it will be.
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Message 2040020 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 1:18:58 UTC

Drug Combo is Working ALL OVER dA World

Whew!!! Man O Live.

Victory is Coming.

Thank GOoDness

Lovin' da Medical HEROs kickin' butt

And Pharmas pumpin' out these Life Savers

And dA HERO Patients who Consent

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Message 2040057 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 9:37:01 UTC
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If you are interested in the worldwide numbers the FT is a place to look at.
Coronavirus tracked: the latest figures as the pandemic spreads | Free to read

Note; The graphs are on a logarithmic scales, this straightens the lines, getting rid of the exponential curve seen in many, but more accurately shows the trends.

An article in the NYT explains this. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/health/coronavirus-data-logarithm-chart.html
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Message 2040058 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 10:01:44 UTC - in response to Message 2040057.  

If you are interested in the worldwide numbers the FT is a place to look at.
Coronavirus tracked: the latest figures as the pandemic spreads | Free to read
That's a useful service.

But unfortunately, it suffers from the same drawback as almost every other service (they all source from Johns Hopkins University): it aggregates the numbers at the 'nation state' level. The FT's graph axes are unlabelled (tsk! tsk! - statistics 101), but they look like raw numbers to me [and they do say 'cumulative number of deaths' elsewhere]. Nations vary in size: it would be better to report and plot 'per million population', or whatever. They've picked out a few regions, and the US 'state by state' figures are better, but still misleading. I'm able to see the infection rate figures (courtesy BBC) for my local authority district in the UK - about half a million population - and yesterday we were running at about 20% of the UK average rate. Not enough local testing, probably.
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