So I take it that someone here wants the 2nd wave to happen real quickly in the U.S. of A.?

As I said before, when this page, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries, looks more like this 1, https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/, then I'd expect things to be equal all over the world.

Even my own country is still punching above it's weight, but what does that say about others?

I'm sorry, but "Daddy" has caught a very bad case of pneumonia.

This boils down to empathy. Do you care about your fellow man or are you selfish? This is the major difference between the political parties in this country.
What value do you place on life. Do you have different values for your own life and other humans lives?

Funny you should say that.100 years on, is anyone really learning?

Public Health England studied the Spanish flu outbreak to draw up its initial contingency plan for coronavirus, the key lesson being that the second wave of the disease, in the autumn of 1918, proved to be far more deadly than the first.
The disease spread like wildfire in crowded troop transports and munitions factories, and on buses and trains, according to a 1919 report by Sir Arthur Newsholme for the Royal Society of Medicine.
But a "memorandum for public use" he had written in July 1918, that advised people to stay at home if they were sick and to avoid large gatherings, was buried by the government.
Sir Arthur argued that many lives could have been saved if these rules had been followed, but he added: "There are national circumstances in which the major duty is to 'carry on', even when risk to health and life is involved."

Attempts to curb 1918 pandemic

From:

Attempts to curb 1918 pandemic

"The UK government ... appears to have decided that the war effort took precedence over preventing flu deaths."

The danger now is that some governments will decide that economics take precedence over preventing coronavirus deaths.

I noted that. The 1918 pandemic started Jan 1918 & ended Dec 1920. The 1st reported death was May 1918, the war ended Nov 11 1918.
So between those 2 dates, how many died from the Flu & how many died from war?
How many died from the flu but whose deaths were attributed to the war?

Much is now known about that pandemic, especially how fatal the 2nd wave was, seeing many wanting to cancel the lockdowns earlier just beggars belief.
I know that it is a hard call to make, but what will be the economic result if the 2nd wave hits?

This so-called herd immunity proved to turn out to be a deadly one during 1918-20 & still to date, there is no known cure for the flu, just vaccines.

On May 5 on my way back from my doctors office I passed by a couple of Mexican restaurants and noticed the parking lots were full. It appears that many of those who like to celebrate cinco de mayo were thowing caution to the wind and partying anyway. I noticed today at the Florida covid 19 information web page that there was a spike on the 6th of newly reported cases. I think that unless officials plan to keep us at home until a vaccine is developed all restrictions should be terminated. We are all grown up men and women and enough information is out there for us to make our own decisions about where to go and whom to see. Personally I will be continuing as usual, meaning I stay home 99% of the time and only go out for groceries , doctor's appointments and taking my dog to the dog park. I will be wearing my mask if conditions look too crowded.

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"The UK government ... appears to have decided that the war effort took precedence over preventing flu deaths."

Not just the UK government, all governments participating in the war suppressed news of the flu epidemic, one of the reasons it is called the "Spanish flu" is because they kept out of the war and their press was free to report it.

On May 5 on my way back from my doctors office I passed by a couple of Mexican restaurants and noticed the parking lots were full. It appears that many of those who like to celebrate cinco de mayo were thowing caution to the wind and partying anyway. I noticed today at the Florida covid 19 information web page that there was a spike on the 6th of newly reported cases. I think that unless officials plan to keep us at home until a vaccine is developed all restrictions should be terminated. We are all grown up men and women and enough information is out there for us to make our own decisions about where to go and whom to see. Personally I will be continuing as usual, meaning I stay home 99% of the time and only go out for groceries , doctor's appointments and taking my dog to the dog park. I will be wearing my mask if conditions look too crowded.

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And the incubation period is .......?

People attending events on the 5th would not have been reporting sick the next day.

One way to get people to stay at home
:-)

The celebrations started as early as last Friday around here but I can't verify activity at Mexican venues as I only leave my home when absolutely necessary. So I will watch the case rate increase over the next week.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Interesting article in SCIENCE regarding the accelerated development of Covid-19 Vaccines...

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/05/07/science.abb8923?utm_campaign=SciMag&utm_source=JHubbard&utm_medium=Facebook

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It all BS, reopen it all today - we can't take any more loss of profit.
https://www.pasadenanow.com/main/a-coronavirus-cautionary-tale-just-as-mothers-day-arrives/

Cluster of COVID-19 Cases Traced to a Birthday Party

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/05/08/Death-rate-of-COVID-19-in-US-is-13-study-shows/1211588968493/

Among detected cases of COVID-19 in the United States, 1.3 percent of patients will die from the illness, according to a new calculation.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219

Population estimates, July 1, 2019, (V2019) 328,239,523

328,239,523 * 1.3 percent = 4,267,113 = Acceptable loss to open today without a vax.

https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/facts.htm

Casualties 642,427 Union, 483,026 Confederate

Civil War 1,125,453

King Donald - he who must be first - projection 3.8 times bigger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War#Reconstruction

Reconstruction began January 1, 1863, and it continued until 1877.

1877-1863 = 14 years.

Can any of you imagine what the damage to the economy will be with a 4 times larger shock than the civil war? Maybe it isn't BS and you should feel safer at home.

World wide the number of reported cases has passed 4.1 million and 280,000 reported deaths while the U.S. passes 80,000 reported deaths and Russia is about to join Spain, Italy and the U.K. in the 200,000 club while Russia along with Brazil are still recording 10,000+ cases per day.

It will be interesting to see what happens over the coming weeks as restrictions start being relaxed around the world.

World wide the number of reported cases has passed 4.1 million and 280,000 reported deaths while the U.S. passes 80,000 reported deaths and Russia is about to join Spain, Italy and the U.K. in the 200,000 club while Russia along with Brazil are still recording 10,000+ cases per day.

It will be interesting to see what happens over the coming weeks as restrictions start being relaxed around the world.

Well Russia has just thrown in a >11,000 day taking them to over 209,000 and putting them within striking distance of both the U.K. and Italy and will likely be in 3rd spot in 48hrs. :-O

Changing direction slightly, an interesting story has popped up on the BBC website this morning.

Coronavirus doctor's diary: The strange case of the choir that coughed in January

(and the choir member's partner who flew back from Wuhan in mid-December)

I may be biased, because the geographical centre of the events described is less than five miles from my house - but it seems to me that this is (should be?) of major scientific interest. I'd expect to be seeing medical examination and research teams parachuting past my living room window! But the story ends with the lamest of testing excuses: "We haven't yet, in the NHS, got a reliable test that reveals whether someone had it in the past". And this is supposed to be a first-world country with the best integrated public health service in the world? Sometimes I despair.

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Sheesh! Some of the conspiracy theories memes are so far beyond belief that they very badly put Darwin's theory to the test!!

Hopefully, that ridiculous (spoof?) example shouldn't get very far...


Anything else to be thrown in the conspiracies melting pot?...


Stay safe!
Martin

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Oh there'd be more than enough fools around to believe that bit of fiction. :-(

Anyhow the U.K. has now passed Italy for 3rd spot before Russia takes them both.

Have cake & eat it
Wonder how much cake will be available when the 2nd wave hits?
With the manner in which this whole situation has been handled, it is going to hit!

Sadly we had a few brain dead fools down in Melbourne being complete idiots yesterday.

Conspiracy theorists flout social distancing rules at Melbourne coronavirus lockdown rally.

They must be SKY News subscribers.