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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Yes. Since Gary gave links to Californian and Swedish data, the pattern is very clear when comparing them. People started dying of covid-19 at about early Mars in both Sweden and California with an accelerating up and down rate to some days ago when the accelerating pace seems to have been lowered. Despite of different response times. I think California was later to respond. Then we also have in Sweden a different approach. But that doesn't seem to matter and we both have about the same outcome. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20372 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
According to one study, the response matters very little....... Yes, that is very much to be expected. Just as you repeatedly see the very same Gaussian bell curve ("Normal Distribution") repeated throughout physics. However, what I would expect to be very different is the proportions/total numbers involved for the infection peak... Stay safe! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
However, what I would expect to be very different is the proportions/total numbers involved for the infection peak.proportions/total numbers? So what is the total number? Nobody knows. Infection peak? Well that we will only know when the global death rate start to decline. So far there aren't so many countries that achieved death rates declines. South Korea, Japan and perhaps Taiwan and Hong Kong. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30691 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Maybe the US should include all those people who dies of COVID-19, not only those who dies in hospitals.I don't know how the other 49 states register deaths, but I do know California's. Most death certificates in California are signed by doctors, no matter where the person died. There are multiple causes of death, generally one that did them in, onset usually described as minutes, there is a second where onset is longer, like COVID-19 and all other conditions like diabetes. If a doctor won't sign or can't*, then the coroner does an exam, and that should include a COVID-19 test. How do I know? Where I work enters data into https://www.edrs.us/index.jsp. *Doctors can't sign if the person hasn't been their patient for a long enough period, at least 3 days. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Now you mention yet an other problem. What was the cause of a patient's death? Same problem for all doctors dealing with casualties that have multiple reasons why they died.Maybe the US should include all those people who dies of COVID-19, not only those who dies in hospitals.I don't know how the other 49 states register deaths, but I do know California's. Most death certificates in California are signed by doctors, no matter where the person died. There are multiple causes of death, generally one that did them in, onset usually described as minutes, there is a second where onset is longer, like COVID-19 and all other conditions like diabetes. If a doctor won't sign or can't*, then the coroner does an exam, and that should include a COVID-19 test. How do I know? Where I work enters data into https://www.edrs.us/index.jsp. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30691 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Florida want's to be number one? |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
As far as I can see they are keeping social distancing. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30691 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
https://tass.com/world/1146127 MOSCOW, April 17. /TASS/. A gene sequence in the novel coronavirus indicates that the virus was imported to China’s Wuhan, instead of emerging there, China’s Ambassador to Russia Zhang Hanhui told TASS Friday. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
What I find hilarious is the asinine comments, memes & recriminations on all of this. Regardless of how it got in the wild, it needs getting under control. The manner it which it has been handled is nothing short of a shambles. What really worries me is that no one is listening to the experts when they say that further pandemics are on the way. Covid-19 is a wake up call for the world, so the question is: How fast will the world wake up? From what has been seen to date, my only thought at this time is: God help us. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
When this is over and I hope sooner than later. The medical/scientific and political establishments will, hopefully be able to come up with new and correct guidelines for the next pandemic.Only if there is a profit to be made & we know that the most profit centric country on the planet is... ...one has only to look to that country's GDP... ...the amount to Science & education is... ...and the amount to defence is way off the scale! |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
we know that the most profit centric country on the planet is... ....China. (Not the people, the Communist Chinese Government) WHO fiddled while Rome was smoldering (literally), due to their lies in order to buy time to 'corner the market' on PPE, Ventilators and drug stockpiles AND to attempt the obtain the patent rights to Remdesivir...... https://canadafreepress.com/article/chinese-reds-set-a-trap-for-trump
Ask yourself exactly who is selling all PPE to the rest of the world in the guise of 'aid'? Then ask what the prices of those items was in September 2019 compared to now. Those that don't see it are lying to themselves and might as well 'take a knee' right now to their masters. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
And you accuse me of cherry picking? Sheesh! Any "answer" for this? ...the amount to Science & education is...As for cornering the market, do you recall the EpiPen scandal or did that escape your notice? That is just one of many of your pharmaceutical greed issues. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30691 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/canada-free-press/ Overall, we rate Canada Free Press Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracies and numerous false claims. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
How China 'LIED' to the world – a Swedish girl's message to family https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-04-12/How-China-LIED-to-the-world-a-Swedish-girl-s-message-to-family-PD4ffOuvqE/index.html China has an odd diplomacy. Both Sweden and Denmark have criticized China for various reasons and the relationship has hit rock bottom. Perhaps doing this was not so good:) But now China want to send PPE to us. A problem though is that their PPE doesn't meet our medical standards... That is the same as the US FDA standard. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30691 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/19/business/grocery-stores-coronavirus-pickup-delivery/index.html It may be time for grocery stores to ban customers from coming inside |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30691 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
King Donald says open it now Coronavirus: 'Possible to be infected with Covid-19 more than once' Is he that smart? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34905 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
He's as smart as those people holding those "spread the virus rallies". :-( |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34905 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
World wide cases are now over 2.4 million while the U.S. is still out of control (meanwhile Trump and some other idiots there want it to explode even further) and Spain is the 2nd country to reach 200,000 cases. Turkey has knocked China out of 7th spot and Iran looks to knock them down another notch very soon. Russia also won the battle with Brazil to see who would knock Belgium out of 10th spot, and then Brazil put them down to 12th. South Korea is now down to 24th spot, but Chile is closing in fast on them. Meanwhile Australia is now down to 37th spot, but Indonesia, the Philippines and Serbia all have eyes on that spot ATM. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20372 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Further articles confirming that the Corona virus is of natural origin as opposed to other various silly viral claims otherwise: Claim That Covid-19 Came From Lab ... Completely Unfounded Scientists Say wrote: "... SARS-CoV-2 is not closely related to any previous viruses; it was never sequenced (even partially) in previous studies, and the COVID-19 outbreak began in November/December, as in previous SARS epidemic events (2002 and 2003)." There's an impressive worldwide body of scientists quoted there that demolishes the various'lab blame game' conspiracy stories. One to quickly move on and away from before The Trump makes a war out of it to distract from his failings... All in our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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