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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22216 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Now we see this headline & story Coronavirus: Alarm as crowds flock to European beaches Coo - people who have been locked up in their homes for weeks want to get out in the sun and go the seaside, I would never have believed it ;-) Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Now we see this headline & storyOne would at least expect that at least one pic was presented in the article as an illustration of the crowds flock to the beaches. Like from California when locked up. Can you surf on the second wave? Never mind:) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
"The odd thing about reporting on the coronavirus is that the nonexperts are supremely confident in their predictions, while epidemiologists keep telling me that they don’t really know much at all." A classic Dunning-Kruger effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
You mean, like this: But Prof James Wilsdon, an expert in science policy, at the University of Sheffield, says the lines between evidence-based science and politics are becoming "very blurred" and this will increase "as we try and tiptoe our way out of lockdown".Politicians know what's best for us. :-) As for your photo of that beach, made me think of this. 2 months of lockdown & the despair shown by many. Wonder how they would've coped doing up to 6 years of captivity in a P.o.W camp? |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Politicians know what's best for us. :-)Of course:) Some are even presidents of countries of major importance. "In Trump we trust" is the motto in the USA for now. About beach visitors. It's not really a big deal but I find it very odd that when a country have very strict rules during a lock down and now suddenly opening up. Sweden's "soft lock down" will last at very least to August. Since no one knows how this pandemic really work it could be longer time then that... Stay Cheeki Breeki. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Col Gianluca Angelini of the financial police said they had discovered "a true centre of power… in which dishonest public officials,Italy the first to report this Wonder how other countries are faring & will they report shenanigans in their neighbourhood? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
"These are unprecedented times and we must recognise that this crisis will not disappear overnight," said Woodward.Makes one wonder how clubs survived the war years |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Why have over the past week, Sweden has had the highest average death rate in the world, in terms of population, according to statistics from Our world in data. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/sverige-har-hogst-coronadodstal-per-invanare State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell believes that the comparison is difficult and that the Swedish figure must be compared with other aspects. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34831 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It looks like the U.S. didn't like being outdone by Brazil yesterday and recorded a massive 28,179 new cases for the past 24hrs and 1,418 deaths. Is this just a blip or is it related to opening up the country and/or those "spread the virus" mobs? Brazil recorded 17,564 new cases and 1,188 deaths in that same period making them the 3rd country to enter the 300,000 club and 6th to pass 20,000 deaths as well as putting them in a position to take Russia's short lived 2nd place from them in the next 24hrs. India also continues to accelerate recording over 6000 new cases yesterday. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Why have over the past week, Sweden has had the highest average death rate in the world, in terms of population, according to statistics from Our world in data. Isn't that just the same as I posted in https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=84230&postid=2049909#2049909 The Telegraph reports "Sweden becomes country with highest coronavirus death rate per capita" |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Why have over the past week, Sweden has had the highest average death rate in the world, in terms of population, according to statistics from Our world in data. There'll be time enough for countin' When the dealin's done - Kenny Rogers "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34831 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
The Telegraph reports "Sweden becomes country with highest coronavirus death rate per capita"Actually I wouldn't go that far. Deaths per million of population top 10. San Marino 1,209 Belgium 793 Andorra 660 Spain 598 Italy 537 U.K. 531 France 432 Sweden 384 Sint Maarten 350 Netherlands 337 |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Wasn't the debate around an instantaneous, one-day, spike, rather than the cumulative 'total to date' so far? Different questions, different answers. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Coronavirus: Immune clue sparks treatment hope UK scientists are to begin testing a treatment that it is hoped could counter the effects of Covid-19 in the most seriously ill patients. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
If this reflects worldwide, "The Donald" has no chance of getting all jobs back. Retail will never be the same again |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Isn't that just the same as I posted in https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=84230&postid=2049909#2049909Not quite. You forgot to give the link to the article you was quoting and only quoting the headline without the comments about what data they refer to. The Telegraph referred to a specific week when Sweden correctly had a very high mortality rate. It is very much explained in the Telegraph article.The Telegraph reports "Sweden becomes country with highest coronavirus death rate per capita" |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
The Guardian today has a strong article about one group of distributors: Agency staff were spreading Covid-19 between care homes, PHE found in April. So far, I've only seen the front page part of that story in a newspaper review: I'm heading out to the shop now to pick up the whole paper, to see if it names the seeder on page 6.Quoting myself, but sadly it's proving tonight to be at least partially true. It's being reported by the BBC, sourced to newspaper reports by the Guardian and the Daily Mirror, that Dominic Cummings and his wife both travelled 250 miles north from London to County Durham whilst knowing that they were both infected with covid-19. The effrontery of the man! I'm speechless. No report of any direct link to care homes - yet. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
The same situation is in Sweden. Most of the people who die of Covid-19 are elderly people at care homes. Often having other underlying diseases. But with personal that has not been tested enough and shortage of PPE and many of them as 10 different people taking care of a single people everyday, what to suspect... According to the latest data from the National Board of Health and Welfare, 52.6 percent of people over 70 who have died in covid-19 have lived in a retirement home. This involves more than 1,700 people. The proportion varies widely between different municipalities. In Stockholm, which has had the most deaths overall, it is close to the national average, while in Gothenburg it is over 70 percent and in Västerås over 76. In Södertälje, 40km south of Stockholm, however, the proportion is below 30 percent. Btw. Dominic Cummings is not the only one that doesn't follow their own restrictions as a politician to the public. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Richard I think many Republicans who hate social security and medicare feel the same way. This could be a very effective way to cull 10% of the claimants. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34831 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Well Brazil has shoved Russia aside to take 2nd place by reported cases, but I must ask why this wasn't done months ago. UK lockdown: what are the new coronavirus restrictions? Isn't it a bit like closing the stable doors after the horses have bolted? |
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