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Message 2047483 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 1:10:41 UTC
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Message 2047491 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 3:02:33 UTC

Nearly 70 dead in ‘horrific’ outbreak at veterans home
AP- Nearly 70 residents sickened with the coronavirus have died at a Massachusetts home for aging veterans, as state and federal officials try to figure out what went wrong in the deadliest known outbreak at a long-term care facility in the U.S.

While the death toll at the state-run Holyoke Soldiers’ Home continues to climb, federal officials are investigating whether residents were denied proper medical care and the state’s top prosecutor is deciding whether to bring legal action.

“It’s horrific,” said Edward Lapointe, whose father-in-law lives at the home and had a mild case of the virus. “These guys never had a chance.”
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Message 2047494 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 3:36:13 UTC

Netflix is now airing a 25 minute long documentary about the Covid19 pandemic. There was no predicted end game though.
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Message 2047526 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 13:17:40 UTC

China threatens economic consequences if Australia launches investigation of Beijing's handling of coronavirus
By Laura Kelly - 04/27/20 02:26 PM EDT

https://thehill.com/policy/international/494860-china-threatens-economic-consequences-if-australia-launches?fbclid=IwAR0DD5frUe4W7c0oxlYveYcQVJxlBpO9chAydr0Fm2YP-cETxwC23th2vLI

Chinese officials are threatening economic consequences if Australia moves ahead with an investigation into Beijing’s early handling of the coronavirus outbreak, Australian Sky News reported on Monday.

Chinese Ambassador to Australia Cheng Jingye said Beijing could encourage Chinese citizens to boycott Australian exports and products if Australia was to initiate the probe, the news outlet reported.

Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne called the Chinese threats “economic coercion” and repeated calls for an investigation into the early handling of the outbreak, which is thought to have originated in the Chinese city of Wuhan.


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Message 2047531 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 14:05:17 UTC - in response to Message 2047526.  


https://thehill.com/policy/international/494860-china-threatens-economic-consequences-if-australia-launches?fbclid=IwAR0DD5frUe4W7c0oxlYveYcQVJxlBpO9chAydr0Fm2YP-cETxwC23th2vLI


The flip side is true, too. If all countries boycott the majority of Chinese made products, in short order China will be buried under an avalanche of big-screen TVs and microwaves.



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Message 2047547 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 18:27:30 UTC

A third of hospital cases end up being fatal.
Deadly as Ebola
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Message 2047565 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 20:24:18 UTC

The flip side is true, too. If all countries boycott the majority of Chinese made products, in short order China will be buried under an avalanche of big-screen TVs and microwaves.


As Australia is one of the top suppliers of Gold to China they have a tremendous point of leverage if they care to use it. It's time to take off the gloves.



Covid 19 may not have been a use of biological weaponry by the Communist Chinese Government, but their actions with regards to the rest of the world since it's discovery have been materially identical to if it were.

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Message 2047566 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 20:29:02 UTC - in response to Message 2047565.  

Covid 19 may not have been a use of biological weaponry by the Communist Chinese Government, but their actions with regards to the rest of the world since it's discovery have been materially identical to if it were.

You could almost make the same argument about Covid-19 and the lack of action against the leaders of the US and UK.
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Message 2047568 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 20:52:25 UTC - in response to Message 2047566.  

Covid 19 may not have been a use of biological weaponry by the Communist Chinese Government, but their actions with regards to the rest of the world since it's discovery have been materially identical to if it were.
You could almost make the same argument about Covid-19 and the lack of action against the leaders of the US and UK.
Exactly and I also wouldn't worry too much about our current v2.0 loving arse kissing right wing government and its silly actions.
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Message 2047619 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 5:24:49 UTC
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Trump, 10th April 2020
“The minimum number was 100,000 lives, and I think we’ll be substantially under that number,” he said April 10. “Hard to believe that if you had 60,000 — you could never be happy, but that’s a lot fewer than we were originally told and thinking.”

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US - 61,472 Coronavirus deaths
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Message 2047621 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 5:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 2047619.  

Trump, 10th April 2020
“The minimum number was 100,000 lives, and I think we’ll be substantially under that number,” he said April 10. “Hard to believe that if you had 60,000 — you could never be happy, but that’s a lot fewer than we were originally told and thinking.”
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And it's far from being over yet.
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Message 2047691 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 16:22:18 UTC

An about 1% mortality rate is essentially identical to the catastrophic failure rate calculated for the Space Shuttle by the investigation board. That was held to be way too big.

Most humans are terrible at evaluating risk. Perhaps this will help some of the mathematically challenged understand what "open up today" really means.
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Message 2047710 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 19:36:13 UTC

View from the UK:

Coronavirus: Why so many US nurses are out of work

At a time when medical professionals are putting their lives at risk, tens of thousands of doctors in the United States are taking large pay cuts.

And even as some parts of the US are talking of desperate shortages in nursing staff, elsewhere in the country many nurses are being told to stay at home without pay.

That is because American healthcare companies are looking to cut costs as they struggle to generate revenue during the coronavirus crisis.

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Message 2047714 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 20:31:00 UTC

This says it all.
Dr Jenab is a physician in emergency medicine in Denver, Colorado. To her, the problem has become clear.

"One of the biggest issues in US medicine today is that it has become a business. In the past, that was not the case," says Dr Jenab.

"They tend to run very lean with these hospitals, with these large corporate medical groups because honestly they are much more concerned about profit than their patients," she says, clearly impassioned.
It's pretty bad when U.S. corporate greed comes before your healthcare.

Then there's those ventilators which we are now making. 1 is being made under licence, but comes in at 45% of the cost of the U.S. made model that it's based on. I'm not sure what the 2nd unit is based on or whether there's any royalties involved as there are few details on it, but it comes in at 25-30% of the price and then there's the "outside of the box job" which avoids all current patents which comes in at 10% of the cost and will likely be made available to 3rd world countries.

It's not hard to see why healthcare in the U.S. is the number 1 cause of personal bankruptcies over there. :-(
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Message 2047744 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 0:59:45 UTC

As the U.S. keeps leading the way well away from Spain and Italy while the U.K. has jumped into 4th place over France and Germany. Turkey, Russia (has joined the 100K club), Iran and Brazil round out the top 10.

China is down to 11th now while Japan has dropped to 29th and South Korea is still at 35th as Australia drops to 45th as more close in it.
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Message 2047807 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 15:40:57 UTC

A big name is knocked off one small part of the internet for pushing harmful views:

David Icke kicked off Facebook
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Facebook has taken down the official page of conspiracy theorist David Icke for publishing "health misinformation that could cause physical harm".

Mr Icke has made several false claims about coronavirus, such as suggesting...


I'm sure there will be claims and howls at the moon of "Conspiracy!".


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Message 2047819 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 16:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 2047807.  

A big name is knocked off one small part of the internet for pushing harmful views:

David Icke kicked off Facebook
wrote:
Facebook has taken down the official page of conspiracy theorist David Icke for publishing "health misinformation that could cause physical harm".

Mr Icke has made several false claims about coronavirus, such as suggesting...


I'm sure there will be claims and howls at the moon of "Conspiracy!".


Stay safe,
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Anyone howling at the moon over the removal of a broadcast channel for this type of lunacy has as big a problem with sanity and rational thought. And as far as his being a big name, I'd never heard it until your post.

I guess big name depends on in which pond you swim....... ":>

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Message 2047824 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 18:11:05 UTC

It seems Boeing & Grenfell didn't teach any lessons.
it's thought companies will be allowed to self-certify they are in compliance with the guidelines.
Plans to get the UK back to work
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Message 2047827 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 18:35:27 UTC - in response to Message 2047824.  

It seems Boeing & Grenfell didn't teach any lessons.
it's thought companies will be allowed to self-certify they are in compliance with the guidelines.
Plans to get the UK back to work

Profit above all else. The people still haven't learned the lesson about corporations, trusts and the fiduciary duty.
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Message 2047834 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 21:12:10 UTC

250 Chinese Ventilators Could Kill Coronavirus Patients, UK Doctors Warn
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/04/30/250-chinese-ventilators-could-kill-coronavirus-patients-uk-doctors-warn/
Senior doctors from a National Health Service (NHS) regional trust in Birmingham said that the build of the Shangrila 510 model ventilators, made by Beijing Aeonmed Co Ltd, was “basic” and that the oxygen supply was “variable and unreliable”.

It was also the wrong type as it was designed for ambulances, meaning medics had to set up make-shift stands for the mobile devices to place next to hospital beds. The cloth casing is also said to be difficult to clean, causing hygiene concerns in the high-infection environment, according to the letter seen by American network NBC News and published on Thursday.

“We believe that if used, significant patient harm, including death, is likely,” the letter said, continuing: “We look forward to the withdrawal and replacement of these ventilators with devices better able to provide intensive care ventilation for our patients.”


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