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Message 2022234 - Posted: 7 Dec 2019, 22:37:38 UTC

Deny this?


Climate change: Oceans running out of oxygen as temperatures rise

Climate change and nutrient pollution are driving the oxygen from our oceans, and threatening many species of fish...

... The threat to oceans from nutrient run-off of chemicals such as nitrogen and phosphorus from farms and industry has long been known to impact the levels of oxygen in the sea waters and still remains the primary factor, especially closer to coasts.

However, in recent years the threat from climate change has increased.

As more carbon dioxide is released enhancing the greenhouse effect, much of the heat is absorbed by the oceans. In turn, this warmer water can hold less oxygen. The scientists estimate that between 1960 and 2010, the amount of the gas dissolved in the oceans declined by 2%. That may not seem like much as it is a global average, but in some tropical locations the loss can range up to 40%.

Even small changes can impact marine life in a significant way. So waters with less oxygen favour species such as jellyfish, but not so good for bigger, fast-swimming species like tuna...




If our oceans die, we die. Simple.

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Message 2022235 - Posted: 7 Dec 2019, 22:41:41 UTC

Just one example of the extra costs of the extremes of our weather:


PG&E: California power firm to pay $13.5bn to wildfire victims

Californian utility giant Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E) has agreed a $13.5bn (£10.2bn) settlement with victims of wildfires in the state.

The company's equipment has been linked to several blazes including the deadliest and most destructive wildfire in state history...




Expect ever more costs as we drive ever greater extremes as we continue to pollute our atmosphere ever further.

All unabated?!


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Message 2022351 - Posted: 8 Dec 2019, 12:46:35 UTC - in response to Message 2021950.  

And for East Africa, the extreme weather is extreme with localized extreme rain or completely no rain:


Uganda floods: At least 16 people dead...

... Rescuers have been recovering the bodies of victims swept to their deaths by the flash floods in the western Bundibugyo area, the aid group said.

Homes have been washed away and a number of roads blocked or destroyed.

Large parts of east Africa have suffered floods and landslides in recent weeks. Hundreds have died and millions have been displaced...

... Meanwhile, in Somalia, the authorities are trying to assess the damage caused by tropical storm Pawan, which brought wind and torrential rain to part of the northern coast on Saturday...




Note the rainfall chart in that article. East Africa is now a crazy patchwork of excess rains yet drought in between those flooded areas!

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Message 2022635 - Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 15:24:36 UTC

And at the other extreme to come, no water:


Climate change: [Nearly TWO] billion people rely on natural 'water towers'

In a unique study, scientists have assessed and ranked the importance of Earth's great "water towers". These are the 78 mountainous regions that are able to generate and then store vast quantities of water. They deliver it in a controlled way to major populations living downstream.

The Dutch-led team finds Asia's Indus basin - fed by the Himalayan, Karakoram, Hindu-Kush, and Ladakh ranges - to be the most important storage unit on the planet...

... but the most obvious threat is climate change. A warming world will disrupt precipitation patterns and denude glaciers of their storage capacity...

... And one of the defining aspects of the towers is the way they are able to maintain essential water supplies to populations even in drought years through the steady melt of high-elevation ice in summer months...

... "What we recommend in our study is that we should really recognise mountains as global assets of the Earth system, and that means mountain ranges should be at the top of political agendas, and dedicated policies should be developed,"...




Another example of how more pollution means an unwanted deluge followed by deadly less water to come...

What madness is that?!

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Message 2022783 - Posted: 11 Dec 2019, 18:21:20 UTC
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And so to continue with a double-double whammy to burn us all:


Climate change: Greenland ice melt 'is accelerating'

Greenland is losing ice seven times faster than it was in the 1990s...

... Greenland's contribution to sea-level rise is currently tracking what had been regarded as a pessimistic projection of the future...



Climate change: Major emitters accused of blocking progress at UN talks

Delegates from developing countries have reacted angrily to what they see as attempts to block progress at the COP25 meeting in Madrid.

One negotiator told the BBC that the talks had failed to find agreement on a range of issues because of the blocking actions of some large emitters. Carlos Fuller from Belize said that Brazil, Saudi Arabia, India and China were "part of the problem"...

... hopes of an ambitious declaration at COP25 have smacked straight into the realities of politics and entrenched positions...

... "There's an effort right now to block the words 'climate urgency' in text from Brazil and Saudi Arabia...

... "This gap between what's happening on the outside and what's happening in the science, and this 'UN speak' that won't react and drive something is very frustrating."...

... "I hope that they support a coalition of countries that beat back the darker forces here in Madrid that want to hold the world back," said Jennifer Morgan from Greenpeace. "If not, it will be a moral failure," she said.



Climate change: Amazon oil boom under fire at UN talks

A report presented at COP25 says that plans are in place for a huge expansion of oil drilling in the upper Amazon.

The analysis says that Ecuador and Peru are set to sanction oil extraction across an area of forest the size of Italy...

... Right now this is a pristine area, with few roads. The indigenous people have title to these lands and in the area several tribes are living in voluntary isolation. Campaigners fear that if the oil blocks are sold it will see new roads built, which will lead to illegal logging, deforestation and poor outcomes for the residents of the region...

... "All those countries are here making declarations about cutting emissions, Ecuador and Peru are making declarations about protecting the Amazon but what we are seeing is a whole different plan to expand extraction...

... "The world needs to understand that the Amazon goes beyond Brazil, and that us, the indigenous from Peru and Ecuador, can work hand in hand with governments and philanthropists in the creation of a new economic model for the Amazon Forest," said Lizardo Cauper, from Peru.

Reflecting the scale of violence that many indigenous people from the Amazon region live under, a delegation of more than 20 Brazilian leaders held a protest at the COP against the murder of two people on Saturday.



Greta Thunberg accuses world leaders of 'creative PR' at climate summit

Greta Thunberg has called upon world leaders to stop using "clever accounting and creative PR" to avoid real action on climate change...

... She accused world leaders of making constant attempts to find loopholes to avoid making substantial changes.

The teenage activist's appearance came after Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro called her a "brat"...

... "In just three weeks we will enter a new decade, a decade that will define our future. Right now, we are desperate for any sign of hope," she said...




Nasty negative stuff.

We are all doomed to this stupidity?

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Message 2022890 - Posted: 12 Dec 2019, 20:31:43 UTC

Looks like Greta has at least some of the polluting leaders on the run:


Greta Thunberg changes Twitter bio after Trump dig

Climate activist Greta Thunberg has changed her Twitter bio to mock US President Donald Trump's outrage at her winning Time Person of the Year 2019...

... This is not the first time she has changed her Twitter bio to reflect Mr Trump and other leaders' criticism of her.

On Tuesday Ms Thunberg changed her bio to "pirralha" - the Portuguese word for brat - after Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro criticised her highlighting the plight of Brazil's indigenous people...

... In October she changed the bio to "a kind but poorly informed teenager". This was exactly how Russian President Vladimir Putin had described her...




How many more countries are there where she can no longer visit for having 'upset' the local 'despot'?

More seriously, how do we do away with such despot vandals or even transform them into saving our planet??


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Message 2023092 - Posted: 14 Dec 2019, 11:25:35 UTC

Is Melania Trump one of those woman that think that kid's and women should be seen and not heard? Or is she just towing v2.0 and Putin's lines?

Melania Trump suggests Greta Thunberg deserves attack for 'giving speeches'.
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Message 2023098 - Posted: 14 Dec 2019, 13:50:03 UTC - in response to Message 2023092.  
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Is Melania Trump one of those woman that think that kid's and women should be seen and not heard? Or is she just towing v2.0 and Putin's lines?

Melania Trump suggests Greta Thunberg deserves attack for 'giving speeches'.

Wow!

Greta must really have Trump discomfited for him to need his imported wife to try to defend him!

(Oh wait another moment, what's that about immigration and his walls?... But that is for another thread...)


Here's hoping the mockery hits home to stir positive immediate action!

Here's hoping at least...


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Message 2023100 - Posted: 14 Dec 2019, 13:55:06 UTC
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Can the Australian politicos ignore this heat?...


Australia heatwave: Next week could see hottest day on record

Australia could experience its hottest day on record next week as a severe heatwave in the country's west is set to make its way east, forecasters say. Temperatures are likely to exceed 40C in many areas from Wednesday...

... The current record of 50.7C was set on 2 January 1960 in the outback town of Oodnadatta in South Australia.

Fire weather warnings have been issued for parts of Western Australia and Queensland.

In Perth, in Western Australia, temperatures are forecast to remain high on the weekend, reaching 40C on Saturday and 41C on Sunday.

Next week, the extreme heat is likely to continue in parts of Western Australia and also affect much of South Australia, where Adelaide should see highs of 40C on Tuesday and Wednesday, 41C on Thursday and 42C on Friday...

... Meanwhile, the BOM says a fire weather warning has been issued for...




The temperature charts in that article say it all...

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Message 2023120 - Posted: 14 Dec 2019, 16:57:38 UTC
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Vulnerable countries warn of fiasco on the climate summit.
When the Madrid climate summit now goes into long overdue, vulnerable countries together with environmental organizations warn of a total failure. With only hours left, the negotiations are still completely locked, and it all risks ending with an agreement that allows cheating with emissions trading and lowered ambitions.
"The politicians here are f***ing up, and people all over the world have to get up to save the planet," says Mohamed Adow of Power Shift Africa.
Brazil, Australia, the USA and Japan are identified as the stop blocks.
"These are the ones the chairman is now listening to. They do not listen to the youth or island nations, but to Bolsonaro, Trump and Abe. Are they kidding us ?" says Jennifer Morgan, manager at Greenpeace International.
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Message 2023228 - Posted: 15 Dec 2019, 14:49:13 UTC
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The the result of the COP25 is...

Yet more procrastination! Total cop-out!!


Climate change: Longest talks end with compromise deal

The longest United Nations climate talks on record have finally ended in Madrid with a compromise deal...

All countries will need to put new climate pledges on the table by the time of the next major conference in Glasgow next year. Divisions over other questions - including carbon markets - were delayed until the next gathering...

All parties will need to address the gap between what the science says is necessary to avoid dangerous climate change...

Supported by the European Union and small island states, the push for higher ambition was opposed by a range of countries including the US, Brazil, India and China. However a compromise was agreed with the richer nations having to show that they have kept their promises on climate change in the years before 2020...

... Many of those in attendance were unhappy with the overall package, feeling it did not reflect the urgency of the science... However, negotiators will be satisfied to have kept the process alive after these difficult and complex talks in Madrid...



Greta Thunberg apologises for 'put leaders against the wall' comment

Greta Thunberg has apologised for saying world leaders should be "put against the wall" in a speech.

The teenage climate activist made the comment while addressing a Fridays For Future protest in Turin, Italy. In English the phrase is associated with execution by firing squad, but Ms Thunberg said it had a different meaning in her native language Swedish. "That's what happens when you improvise speeches in a second language,"...

... She said she feared the summit alone would not lead to adequate climate action, and that activists should continue to take world leaders to task. "World leaders are still trying to run away from their responsibilities, but we have to make sure they cannot do that," she said. "We will make sure that we put them against the wall, and they will have to do their job to protect our futures."...

... "That's Swenglish: 'att ställa någon mot väggen' (to put someone against the wall) means to hold someone accountable."

She continued: "Of course I apologise if anyone misunderstood this. I cannot enough express the fact that I - as well as the entire school strike movement - are against any possible form of violence. It goes without saying but I say it anyway."...




So... The politicians kick the can of greedy pollution and self-interest around the planet for yet another year. Except, we ain't got any more years left for such procrastination...

And our planet yet burns.


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Message 2023233 - Posted: 15 Dec 2019, 17:29:43 UTC - in response to Message 2023228.  

The the result of the COP25 is...
A quote comes to mind. “I never put off till tomorrow what I can possibly do - the day after.”
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Message 2023333 - Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 12:05:00 UTC - in response to Message 2023233.  
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The the result of the COP25 is...
A quote comes to mind. “I never put off till tomorrow what I can possibly do - the day after.”

Unfortunately, all too true for some of the games of politics...



A summary of the COP25 is given:

Climate change: Five things we've learned from Madrid talks

... Delegates were highly critical of the fact that when it came to the key text about ambition, the Chileans presented the lowest common denominator language first, resulting in a huge number of objections from countries eager to see more ambition on carbon cuts. Experienced COP watchers said they should have started with high ambition and negotiated down to a compromise...

... There was a yawning gap between the demands of those outside the process and the actions of those within. This disconnect was the difference between the urgency underlined by the latest science, the demands for more ambitious climate targets from school strikers around the world, and the torturous, convoluted nature of the talks...

... If countries can't be persuaded to move away from ... self-protective positions, Glasgow will suffer the same fate as the ill-fated Copenhagen COP in 2009...

... "The diplomacy to build the confidence of the Chinas and the Indias that they can do more and they will be supported, through economic co-operation and that everyone else is moving in that direction, is incredibly important for changing the politics heading into next year,"...




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Message 2023727 - Posted: 19 Dec 2019, 17:28:51 UTC

The heat is ON:


Australia heatwave: All-time temperature record broken again

A state of emergency has been declared in New South Wales, Australia, amid fears a record-breaking heatwave will exacerbate the state's bushfire crisis.

The nation endured its hottest-ever day on Tuesday, but that record was smashed again on Wednesday - which saw an average maximum of 41.9C (107.4F).

Tuesday's 40.9C had eclipsed the previous record of 40.3C, set in 2013...

... "The biggest concern over the next few days is the unpredictability, with extreme wind conditions [and] extremely hot temperatures,"...

... individual December temperature records had been broken in a number of places - with temperatures in the southern city of Adelaide hitting 45.3C. Nullarbor, also in southern Australia, reached the scorching temperature of 49.9C...

... Bushfires have been raging in Australia for months... The crisis - worsened by tinder-dry conditions from a severe drought - has spurred criticism of the nation's climate policies...



Climate change: Met Office says warming trend will continue in 2020

Next year will continue the global warming trend with temperatures again likely to rise more than one degree above pre-industrial levels.

According to the Met Office, 2020 will likely be 1.11C warmer than the average between 1850-1900, The year ahead is set to extend the series of the warmest years on record to six in a row.

Scientists say the strongest factor causing the rise is greenhouse gas emissions...



Banks and insurers to face climate stress tests

The Bank of England has launched one of the most ambitious attempts to date to quantify the risk that climate change poses to the financial system.

Banks and insurers will face climate stress tests in a similar way to the financial stress tests they already do. It is a project that could ultimately result in banks and insurers having to hold more capital to do certain kinds of business.

And that could have profound effects on the way the economy is funded...

... It's perhaps not intuitive to see how climate change affects financial assets.

Imagine that, after years of Australian bush fires, insurers decide that houses in the country are uninsurable. A house that can't be insured is worth a lot less than one that can...




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Message 2023975 - Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 1:39:36 UTC
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Does pollution pay dividends?


VW hit with record fine in Australia over emissions scandal

Volkswagen (VW) has been slapped with a record fine by Australia's consumer watchdog to settle lawsuits over the carmaker's global emissions scandal.

The A$125m ($86m; £66m) penalty is the highest ordered by a court for breaches of Australian consumer law.

VW has been hit with a flurry of legal action since 2015, when it emerged the firm had been cheating emissions tests.

Australian regulators have also launched proceedings over VW's consumer loans...




Yet, does that deter for the profits made?

Does the fine adequately pay for the damage done to the environment and everyone and the consequences?

Will that stop VW and others from perpetrating the same dirty pollution 'tricks'??

Are the CEO and board members all personally fined and suffer significant costs?


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Message 2024029 - Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 6:14:01 UTC - in response to Message 2023975.  

Does pollution pay dividends?
Yet, does that deter for the profits made?

Two words, one product, Ford Pinto.

The issue is the largest fine they can impose is chump change. They also wouldn't dare fine them real money because it would toss too many out of work and kill their tax revenue machine.
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Does pollution pay dividends?
Yet, does that deter for the profits made?

Two words, one product, Ford Pinto.

The issue is the largest fine they can impose is chump change. They also wouldn't dare fine them real money because it would toss too many out of work and kill their tax revenue machine.

Indeed so...

Which is where the CEO and board members must be made personally responsible for any useful positive change...


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Message 2024085 - Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 14:10:32 UTC
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Meanwhile for Christmas, Australia burns:

(49.9 deg C / 121.8 deg F in Nullarbor there!)


Australia fires: Travel warnings issued over 'catastrophic' conditions

Catastrophic fire warnings are in place across the Australian state of New South Wales (NSW), where firefighters are tackling more than 100 blazes.

Authorities have urged Christmas travellers to delay their journeys as conditions threaten to intensify the bushfire crisis...

... A combination of temperatures above 40C, low humidity and strong winds have worsened the struggle for the almost 10,000 emergency personnel mobilised to deal with the bushfires in NSW. "We are in a period of unbelievable drought and some areas haven't seen rain for more than 12 months"...

... Although climate change is not the direct cause of bushfires, scientists have long warned that a hotter, drier climate would contribute to Australia's fires becoming more frequent and more intense.




Whilst here in the UK we are being flooded out:


Flood and weather warnings in place across England

More than 100 flood warnings are in place across England after days of heavy rain, and more downpours expected.

The warnings are in place across southern and eastern England, the Midlands and Yorkshire.

A severe weather warning of more heavy rain is in place across southern England until noon on Sunday.

Motorists starting out for the Christmas getaway are being advised to check their routes in advance...




And the plants in my garden are totally confused. There are a mix of some still shedding their leaves as though it is still autumn yet whilst others are sprouting anew as though it is spring.

What next for our ever more polluted weather??...


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Message 2024121 - Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 16:23:09 UTC - in response to Message 2024083.  

Which is where the CEO and board members must be made personally responsible for any useful positive change...

A corporation is a sovereign.
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Message 2024132 - Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 16:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 2024121.  

Which is where the CEO and board members must be made personally responsible for any useful positive change...

A corporation is a sovereign.

Yes. Which is where we now have our modern day gangsters and modern day slavery all under a corporate name...

Times need to change...



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