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Message 2011350 - Posted: 9 Sep 2019, 9:22:38 UTC

Here you go Martin, just for you.
Greed at work.
The solution that is becoming a serious denial
Robert Skillen, who was the director of the firm when Mr Thompson bought his system, said Mr Thompson's panels would make him money.
Mr Skillen is now in business claiming to help people who have been missold solar panels. He did not want to be interviewed.

Who's the fox & who's the hen?
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Message 2012013 - Posted: 15 Sep 2019, 7:57:11 UTC

Which comes 1st, safety or climate change?
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Message 2012016 - Posted: 15 Sep 2019, 9:03:38 UTC - in response to Message 2012013.  

Which comes 1st, safety or climate change?
Answer: profit.

"In the end, the electrical industry lobby was too strong and we had to give in to them," said Dutch Green MEP Bas Eickhout, who was responsible for the attempt to regulate F-gases.
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Message 2012447 - Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 19:41:58 UTC

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/247solar-inc-selects-capstone-microturbines-123000041.html

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Message 2012448 - Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 19:58:36 UTC - in response to Message 2012447.  

That's not denial:)
The first installation is scheduled for startup in mid-year 2020 and is located in Ouarzazate, Morocco, in collaboration with Masen, the Moroccan Agency for Sustainable Energy. Masen is responsible for managing renewable energy in Morocco, with a goal to secure 52% of the country’s energy mix from renewable sources by 2030.
There is lot of sun in northern Africa. A problem though. The political situation there is to say least a very big problem. Not the first time the idea have come up.
https://physicsworld.com/a/siemens-and-bosch-pull-out-of-major-african-solar-initiative/
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Message 2012617 - Posted: 20 Sep 2019, 14:44:32 UTC

Deny this pan-world pollution?


Singapore Grand Prix: How will haze affect the drivers and fans?

... but the race coincides with the city's worst air quality in three years.

The haze, as it is called, is caused by fires in nearby Indonesia and Malaysia and is an annual problem in the region.

So just as Singapore gets ready for the F1 glitz, the usually clear blue sky has turned a foggy, faded grey. The skyline is shrouded - and the air, officially classed as unhealthy this week, carries a burnt smell...




There has to be a better way...

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Message 2012628 - Posted: 20 Sep 2019, 17:04:49 UTC
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Will Provide LOTs of OPPORTUNITies fO DENYING BIGLY. FREEZING COLD SWEETNESS

https://www.breitbart.com/news/largest-polar-expedition-in-history-to-probe-arctic-climate

https://www.mosaic-expedition.org

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Message 2012634 - Posted: 20 Sep 2019, 17:45:19 UTC
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LOL. The MOSAiC expedition is not about denial. It's about confirmation:) Or should I say more confirmation to what that some morons deny!

Welcome to the Artic:)
Livestream today MOSAiC Expedition Press Conference from Tromsø/Norway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgyfCfNaYDQ

With 300 participants from 19 nations, the largest Arctic expedition of all time MOSAiC is about to start. On the 20th of September from 4.30 pm – 9.00 pm, the departure of the research German icebreaker Polarstern, convoyed by Russian RV Ak. Fedorov, will be accompanied by a festive event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69OsRXEO7y4
The unique thing about Mosaic is not just the size of the expedition, according to Markus Rex, atmospheric scientist at the Alfred Wegener Institute in Germany and the one who leads the entire expedition. Nor have advanced measurements of the ice, atmosphere, water and ecosystems in the central Arctic been conducted for a whole year.
In the Arctic, warming is more than twice as fast as the rest of the world. Understanding what is behind the rapid ice melt - and what it will have for our planet - is among the most important issues right now for humanity, says Markus Rex.
It is this that allows such different countries as, for example, Germany, the USA, Russia and China to cooperate:
- Everyone agrees that these are the most important issues right now. It is clear that I feel a pressure to deliver our scientific results. It's a pressure that I always feel, ”says Markus Rex.
Sweden is also involved in the collaboration. Our icebreaker Oden will deliver new fuel to the Polar Star this spring. Five researchers from Stockholm, Uppsala and Gothenburg University will participate in various rounds during the expedition.
In 1991, Oden became the world's first non-nuclear ship to reach the North Pole.

MOSAiC: A year trapped in the Arctic ice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKuFeqPBza0
Markus Rex, Head of Atmospheric Physics, Alfred Wegener Institute, Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbfTNYo3UTk
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Message 2012656 - Posted: 20 Sep 2019, 20:00:12 UTC

GET dat ARTIC DATA So dA DENIALs Can CONTINUE!!!!! ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!! 'Cause YOUSE BRAINIACs WILL NEVER be RIGHT!!!!!

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions

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Message 2012659 - Posted: 20 Sep 2019, 20:51:37 UTC - in response to Message 2012656.  
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Love it. A reference to John Nolte at Breitbart with the motto "Opinions are mine and my stash of lesbian porn proves I'm not homophobic....".

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com
And you were saying....

What next? Americans didn't land on the moon?
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Message 2013055 - Posted: 23 Sep 2019, 22:35:28 UTC

Greta Thunberg to world leaders: 'How dare you – you have stolen my dreams and my childhood' - video
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/video/2019/sep/23/greta-thunberg-to-world-leaders-how-dare-you-you-have-stolen-my-dreams-and-my-childhood-video
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Message 2014642 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019, 19:28:36 UTC - in response to Message 2013055.  
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Greta Thunberg to world leaders: 'How dare you – you have stolen my dreams and my childhood' - video
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/video/2019/sep/23/greta-thunberg-to-world-leaders-how-dare-you-you-have-stolen-my-dreams-and-my-childhood-video

Powerful stuff. Very powerfully clear.

But are the supposed adults in the room adult enough to drag themselves out of their denial to take immediate urgent positive action?


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Message 2014643 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019, 19:38:30 UTC
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Trump trumps on the old costly inefficient ways of light:


White House to Relax Energy Efficiency Rules for Light Bulbs

The Trump administration plans to significantly weaken federal rules that would have forced Americans to use much more energy-efficient light bulbs, a move that could contribute to greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming.

The proposed changes would eliminate requirements that effectively meant that most light bulbs sold in the United States — not only the familiar, pear-shaped ones, but several other styles as well — must be either LEDs or fluorescent to meet new efficiency standards...

... Eliminating inefficient bulbs nationwide would save electricity equivalent to the output of at least 25 large power plants [across the USA]...

... LED bulbs show how seemingly modest shifts in technology can have a profound effect on people’s lives and wallets. Because of their long life and energy efficiency, an LED bulb can save consumers an estimated $50 to $100 over its several-year lifetime, while reducing the number of times a year they need to climb a stepladder or kitchen table to replace burnt-out bulbs...

... The changes are likely to be challenged in court. California’s attorney general, Xavier Becerra, said he would fight the administration’s action in court, calling the shift “another dim-witted move that will waste energy at the expense of our planet.” ...



Consumers to pay a hefty price for Trump’s rollback of light bulb efficiency standards

[For the USA,] Repealing the standards would cost consumers $100 billion and result in half a billion extra tons of air pollution.

President Donald Trump wants to roll back efficiency standards for light bulbs, at a cost to consumers of over $100 billion — some $1,000 per household — by 2030...

... The market has already spoken, and LEDs have won around the world. Trump cannot stop the global tide of innovation, but he can slow the penetration of efficient lighting in this country — at an enormous cost to the pocketbooks and health of consumers.




Deny those costs and extra pollution? Who gains from that?!!!


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Message 2014645 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019, 19:43:43 UTC - in response to Message 2014643.  
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This I would not worry too much about... with LED bulbs so common now that they are as little as $1 in dollar stores, the simple economics that they save 95% in usage and replacement costs (they will last twenty years or more) is enough incentive that most people will never buy an incandescent again.
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Message 2014653 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019, 21:13:27 UTC - in response to Message 2014645.  

This I would not worry too much about... with LED bulbs so common now that they are as little as $1 in dollar stores, the simple economics that they save 95% in usage and replacement costs (they will last twenty years or more) is enough incentive that most people will never buy an incandescent again.

You would be shocked how many of those 20 years bulbs don't make 6 months. But that is a bad manufacturer issue. What an incredible toxic waste in landfills.
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Message 2016417 - Posted: 23 Oct 2019, 22:37:02 UTC
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Yet more of ever more frequent extreme weather:


Floods in Southern Europe: Dead and missing in Spain and Italy

... the River Orb rose dangerously beneath a historic bridge in Béziers as the town saw 198mm (nearly 8in) - or the equivalent of two months' average rainfall - in just six hours...

... the surrounding Hérault area saw 240mm of rain in the past 24 hours, a 50-year record...

... Catalonia suffered its second period of torrential rain in two months...

... Torrential rain also caused major disruption in northern Italy..




As we heat up the atmosphere and oceans with yet more of our pollution, there will be yet more frequent events and greater extremity.

As a very famous TV character has exclaimed: "Ye cannae deny the Laws of Physics".


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Message 2016930 - Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 2:13:35 UTC

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/180-000-personer-uppmanas-fly-kalifornienbranderna
The California governor announced a state of emergency throughout the state on Sunday as a result of the forest fires and 180,000 people have been called to leave their homes.
"It is the biggest evacuation any of us can remember," the Sonoma district sheriff's office tweeted.
I guess we have to get used to it. It's called global warming...
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Message 2017004 - Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 16:12:34 UTC - in response to Message 2016930.  

No, it's called miss-managed over amp'd drooping transmission lines on an un-cleared transmission line right of way. Deferred maintenance at it's best.
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Message 2017009 - Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 16:52:16 UTC - in response to Message 2017004.  

No, it's called miss-managed over amp'd drooping transmission lines on an un-cleared transmission line right of way. Deferred maintenance at it's best.

Its called you can't cut that tree, its endangered. Or you can't drive your tree trimming truck to that tree, you will damage the whitsawhap toad's only nesting site. Or you can't spray roundup from the plane down your power line route, might cause a cancer.

Or in many cases, why da F did you plant that tree right next to the power pole? Because the pole is ugly.
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