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juan BFP ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 ![]() ![]() |
There aren't any failed download tasks to abort. All you see is the message in the Event Log of giving up on the task. But they never clear, remains in the list of the Tasks. That's why my suggestion to abort them. When you update in this case the backoff back to the normal 5 min <edit> Yes the DL is back to normal now. ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
Again, they are NOT in the list of Tasks. Only the server has a record of them on your machine. You never got them. They only way to get rid of them is stop BOINC, wait five minutes, contact the scheduler, get the master list successfully downloaded, get benchmarked and finally get rid of them from the database for your host. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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I have one host that constantly has been getting the short straw and receiving no new work. Just about out. The other hosts are getting a reasonable 1 for 1 return. Still not back to full though. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13884 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
There aren't any failed download tasks to abort. All you see is the message in the Event Log of giving up on the task. What's happening now is you request new work, you get new WUs, and many of them are resends. Some are normal resends, others because of the download problems (all those _3, _4, _5s are a good hint). But as soon as they are allocated, they start to download. And in a matter of seconds (now that downloads are no long moving at a crawl) they error out as a permanent HTTP error. No time to abort them. And there are still plenty of _2, _3 resend WUs that aren't due to download errors, so aborting those would be aborting good work. And Aborting work goes against your Error count anyway (although at least you don't get ridiculous backoff times). Edit- the long backoff only occurs after the Download errors out. If you wait 5min, Update, then they get cleared from your system, now work gets allocated (or not), and you're back to 5min between Scheduler requests. Till the next batch of un-downloadable WUs, of course. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13884 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
I have one host that constantly has been getting the short straw and receiving no new work. Just about out. The other hosts are getting a reasonable 1 for 1 return. Still not back to full though. Splitters have only just started putting out a more reasonable amount of work. Even so, it's been easier to get work after this unscheduled outage than it was trying to get work after the weekly outage. Generally it's been every few requests gets some work. After the weekly outage it took hours, and even when work finally started to be allocated it was something like 7-20 requests to get more. Grant Darwin NT |
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Edit- the long backoff only occurs after the Download errors out. If you wait 5min, Update, then they get cleared from your system, now work gets allocated (or not), and you're back to 5min between Scheduler requests. Exactallly . . . . LOL Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13884 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Wild speculation time. Eric mentioned15% of the storage space was affected? So with 600,000 WUs Ready-to-send, that's around 90,000 WUs MIA. Received in the last hour is around 110,000- but on a system that gets one of these missing WUs allocated, they can end up with some very long timeouts; and a great deal of people don't keep a close eye on their systems. So it could easily take 48+hrs for them to finally be cleared from the system. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13884 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
I have one host that constantly has been getting the short straw and receiving no new work. Just about out. The other hosts are getting a reasonable 1 for 1 return. Still not back to full though. It really is rather strange to watch. I have 1 system that struggles to get work, but when it does it's all good. The other system gets work pretty much each time it requests it, but without fail it gets many of those destined to download failure WUs. Grant Darwin NT |
Ian&Steve C. ![]() Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 ![]() ![]() |
ive been getting a lot of "Project has no tasks available" :/ Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours ![]() ![]() |
Stephen "Heretic" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 ![]() ![]() |
. . @ Unixchick . . There has been a new series of tapes mounted. Blc31 tapes ... but they are from the same day :) LOL. Stephen :) |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
I saw the new tape loaded for the weekend. And the splitters are finally ramping up. Maybe we will start to make a dent in the unfilled caches. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 37357 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 ![]() ![]() |
After just getting in on updating my ready to download caches filled back up just before day break this morning, the system went down. :-( Then I decided to go into town and do a few things then go to the pub to have a few beers and a feed. On arriving home all was back to normal. So it proves that taking a break and a few beers will fix almost anything. :-D Cheers. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
Not quite to that point yet. Still getting the occasional 24 hour backoff that needs tending. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13884 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Just picked up my first Invalid from this issue. It was an Inconclusive, but after that everything else ended up as a download error and it ended up as "Completed, can't validate" Grant Darwin NT |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
Just picked up my first Invalid from this issue. Bummer [Edit] 11 completed, can't validate so far on my farm Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 ![]() ![]() |
So it proves that taking a break and a few beers will fix almost anything. :-D . . Well of course ... :) Stephen :) |
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I shall fade off into the background again. You still are a +2 to all of us. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
![]() Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 ![]() |
So it proves that taking a break and a few beers will fix almost anything. :-D Just got off work, haven't had the beer yet. But when I hit a manual update it started inhaling tons of tasks. I must be the weekend (someplace). Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
12kpp Send message Joined: 20 Mar 08 Posts: 1 Credit: 4,903,051 RAC: 0 ![]() |
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3328702611 odl WU could not complete due to server crash =( |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13884 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Minor panic when I got home just now- several WUs in project backoff having not been able to download. Re-tried pending transfers and luckily they then cleared without further hiccups. Grant Darwin NT |
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