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Message 2016226 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 8:09:44 UTC

Ian is on a 240V system and I don't think there is a 240V Kill-a-Watt meter version.
I have 1 here (except it has an Aussie pin arrangement)so I can't see why you can't get 1 over there (except with a U.S. pin layout instead). ;-)

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Message 2016227 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 9:47:42 UTC
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Message 2016241 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 12:02:08 UTC - in response to Message 2016226.  
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The problem is the “wall” plug on the 240V PDU side looks like this:



And the associated cord for it looks like this:



Not a standard wall plug
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Message 2016242 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 12:09:39 UTC

A very standard IEC 60320 plug - used all over the world for just about everything from computers to kettles. The "un-gated"! version sown is rated at 10A, there is a "gated" version which is more frequently found on things like kettles.
(Some of the hotels I stayed at in China had these "tethered" to sockets, along with the lower power "clover leaf" and "figure of eight", very useful if you arrived in the country and didn't have the right mains adapter in one's bag.)
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Message 2016245 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 12:23:23 UTC - in response to Message 2016242.  

“Standard” in this context meaning along the lines of consumer electronics. Yes it is “standardized”.

You don’t see this plug in the US for anything but server PDUs. I very doubt there are consumer grade (affordable) Kill-A-Watt type power meters that will accept this plug natively. I’d have to use some sort of adapter.
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Message 2016248 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 12:41:59 UTC

For that "exotic" connections is why we have the clamp multimeters. LOL

I'm sure you know you could use a very cheap one like this: https://www.amazon.com/Meterk-Multimeter-Capacitance-Resistance-Temperature/dp/B073Y162BZ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=clamp+multimeter&qid=1571747642&sr=8-5

Measure the current used by the device and the rest is simple math: P = V*I
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Message 2016257 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 17:30:02 UTC - in response to Message 2016248.  
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If I could separate the leads without hacking up the cable I would. but they are all molded into a single insulator as with most PC power cables. clamping onto the whole wire containing all 3 leads, will net 0 amps on the meter lol.

I know there are several ways using adapters, but it's really not worth my time haha.

I just swapped my 2x 750W PSUs on my 7x2070 rig, to 2x1200W PSUs (only 900W @110V). did this only to reduce the noise from the 40mm screamer fans on these 1U PSUs lol. and it worked well. much more pleasant to be around that system. I love these PSUs, picked each one up for $20 from amazon.
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Message 2016261 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 17:56:22 UTC - in response to Message 2016257.  

You have a single wire coming off the circuit breaker that feeds that 240V outlet that you can put an amp clamp around. And Juan the meter you suggested is only 120V input actually disregarding what the description says. There isn't a big enough market in the US for a 240V Kill-a-Watt. Not enough 240V receptacles in use to justify making the product.
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Message 2016264 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 18:01:10 UTC - in response to Message 2016261.  
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You have a single wire coming off the circuit breaker that feeds that 240V outlet that you can put an amp clamp around.

That's the way the clamp multimeter works, you measure one wire at a time.

And Juan the meter you suggested is only 120V input actually disregarding what the description says. There isn't a big enough market in the US for a 240V Kill-a-Watt. Not enough 240V receptacles in use to justify making the product.

Are you sure? If you look at the questions &answers they say:
 No, this device works with 110 or 220 volts, and outputs the voltage of your wall plug to the device you connect to it

yes. we use 220v and it works fine even for large appliances like a fridge or the AC.

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Message 2016266 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 18:10:07 UTC

I didn't look at answers, I looked at tech specs.
Voltage 120 volts
Plug Format B - US style with ground plug.

So unless you used a pigtail with 240 plug to a type B US receptacle, you can't plug this into a 240 circuit. It may be autoranging but you still have a standard US style 120 plug on the unit that only mates to a 120V standard NEMA 5-15R receptacle.
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Message 2016269 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 18:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 2016261.  
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yes, I could do that, but having 3-4 computers running on the same circuit breaker complicates that a bit also lol. it would give me a reading from the whole rack, sure.

240V 30A circuit feeds a lot of stuff :)
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Message 2016296 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 22:18:13 UTC

You would have to build two pigtail adapters to sandwich the Kill-a-Watt meter in between the PDU socket and each computer's power supply plug accommodating the meters NEMA 5-15P plug and NEMA 5-15R receptacle. That way you could measure the wattage pulled by each host.
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Message 2016304 - Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 23:21:09 UTC - in response to Message 2016296.  

Yeah I’m aware, that’s what I meant before about using adapters. Not worth the effort lol.
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Message 2016312 - Posted: 23 Oct 2019, 0:22:57 UTC

Also why I suggested the easiest method would be to use a amp clamp at the breaker if you have one in your toolbox. Granted that would only measure the entire draw of the PDU. You still wouldn't know each individual host draw other than adding up what nvidia-smi shows you and estimating the other draws of the cpu, motherboard and memory.
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Message 2017892 - Posted: 5 Nov 2019, 11:22:05 UTC

I think this one is running a Mining Motherboard (7 slots?) it is certainly running Mining type gpus....

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Message 2018530 - Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 18:19:31 UTC
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I ordered a couple of "1060 Miners" from eBay. Hopefully they are not fake like the "regular" GTX-1060 I managed to return couple of months ago...

The pair I bought were $42 USD each. Long wait as they are in china. Maybe they will arrive by the next WOWevent
here are some others
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=ZOTAC+P106-90&_sacat=0


Interesting that they can be used on any intel board that has Video built in as it can be configured to drive the video.
My BT-85 with xeon would be an interesting test as the xeon does not have HD graphics but the mombo has the HDMI output.
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Message 2018541 - Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 19:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 2018530.  

It’s basically a 1050ti but with less memory, 3GB vs 4GB.

I probably would have went for the P106-100, which is exactly the same as a GTX 1060 6GB, but lacking display outputs and lacking NVENC.

GTX 1050ti:
6 SM, 4GB GDDR5

P106-90:
6 SM, 3GB GDDR5

GTX 1060 3GB:
9 SM, 3GB GDDR5

P106-100:
10 SM, 6GB GDDR5

GTX 1060 6GB:
10 SM, 6GB GDDR5

You will not output video if you put these GPUs on a board with a Xeon processor. The motherboard may have display outputs, but they do not function without an iGPU on the CPU. You will have to have at least 1 normal GPU in the system if you want video out.
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Message 2018549 - Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 19:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 2018530.  
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I ordered a couple of "1060 Miners" from eBay. Hopefully they are not fake like the "regular" GTX-1060 I managed to return couple of months ago...

The pair I bought were $42 USD each. Long wait as they are in china. Maybe they will arrive by the next WOWevent
here are some others
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=ZOTAC+P106-90&_sacat=0


Interesting that they can be used on any intel board that has Video built in as it can be configured to drive the video.
My BT-85 with xeon would be an interesting test as the xeon does not have HD graphics but the mombo has the HDMI output.

I was wondering if there exist something like a 1660 or 2070 mining GPU's like this ones.
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Message 2018551 - Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 20:16:28 UTC - in response to Message 2018549.  

I don’t think so. I haven’t seen any.
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Message 2018637 - Posted: 12 Nov 2019, 8:01:58 UTC - in response to Message 2018549.  

I was wondering if there exist something like a 1660 or 2070 mining GPU's like this ones.
Pretty sure they came out after the mining boom went bust.
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