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Message 1946237 - Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 20:11:00 UTC

Number Crunching & the Café have their versions & this report, too political for the transport thread prompted one for this board. :-)

Ms Onasanya, who was a solicitor before being elected to Parliament, is a Labour whip, meaning she is responsible for party discipline.
Another fox in charge of a henhouse.

MP accused of lying

Nothing new, they lie all the time. :-) The only time they tell the truth is when they want your vote.

More tax payers money wasted on a trial in the Crown Court.
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Message 1946240 - Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 20:33:35 UTC - in response to Message 1946237.  

Corrected to reflect reality.
The only time they, promise to, tell the truth is when they want your vote.
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Message 1946241 - Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 20:41:46 UTC - in response to Message 1946240.  

Oops, quite happy to stand corrected. :-)

Meanwhile, across the pond.

Didn't realise that Yanks are so easily upset :-)
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Message 1946243 - Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 20:51:12 UTC - in response to Message 1946242.  

Welcome to yet another thread Clyde. :-)
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Message 1946252 - Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 21:15:44 UTC - in response to Message 1946243.  

Welcome to yet another thread Clyde. :-)

Not Clyde. He does answer questions. The Clyde Bot doesn't do that.
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Message 1946352 - Posted: 26 Jul 2018, 10:08:22 UTC

Wow, that was abrupt! Just over 10 minutes ago, the headline read: BBC to appeal high court decision.

BBC agree to pay
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Message 1947038 - Posted: 30 Jul 2018, 21:03:58 UTC

From Barmy Boris to this bozo. Whoever next?
No wonder the Health Service is in a mess.
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Message 1947051 - Posted: 30 Jul 2018, 22:35:28 UTC
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Or I could be just a skilled mathematician, for also making it a masterpiece at times.

At least some great colors visible, in a couple of the drawings here.

Next, my conclusion are as follows . . .
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Message 1947370 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 0:28:56 UTC - in response to Message 1947331.  
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The real fact is, that governments never build anything better, design by committee and restricted budgets never works. Plus they never directly employ the best designers, the best are always spotted and given prime jobs by private enterprise long before governments get involved.

As the wonderful Yugo automobile and Socialist Venezuela confirm.

Governments cannot effectively run oil industries, any other industries, nor build a damn car :-)
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Message 1947374 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 0:40:34 UTC - in response to Message 1947370.  

The Yugo was an obsolete Fiat model.
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Message 1947381 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 0:49:29 UTC - in response to Message 1947378.  

There is not much difference between a state corporation and a private corporation.

Very surprising coming from the land of the workers rebellion.
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Message 1947383 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 0:54:44 UTC - in response to Message 1947378.  
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As the wonderful Yugo automobile and Socialist Venezuela confirm.

Governments cannot effectively run oil industries, any other industries, nor build a damn car :-)


Clyde,
I do not agree with you. Stalin built a state corporation. The corporation was totalitarian and authoritarian, but very effective (I'm talking about the Stalin period). Any corporation in the world is a totalitarian firm. Stalin built the USSR on these principles and achieved great success. Who did not want to work in a team and did not show loyalty to the state corporation was waiting for repression.
Stalin was ahead of time and the whole world.
There is not much difference between a state corporation and a private corporation.

Sincerely.

Vadim,

There was no period during the Communist (State Controlled Industry) Industries, which anyone, excepting mass murdering and enslaving Stalin, Mao, Kim et al, wished to emulate.

Why is China and Russia now Capitalist. If Communism, Socialism, Stalinism or Maoism was successful?
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Message 1947385 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 1:01:44 UTC

Thanks to the intervention of mr block button, I don't read a lot of drivel spouted in these threads, I only see which winds are blowing(or vacuums are sucking depending on the POV).

Can't read the words sent from 'bobbieland'......... " : >.........

Why is China and Russia now Capitalist. If Communism, Socialism, Stalinism or Maoism was successful?
And why are the economies of Cuba, Venezuela and DPRK failing?

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 1947386 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 1:07:47 UTC - in response to Message 1947385.  
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Thanks to the intervention of mr block button, I don't read a lot of drivel spouted in these threads, I only see which winds are blowing(or vacuums are sucking depending on the POV).

Can't read the words sent from 'bobbieland'......... " : >.........

Why is China and Russia now Capitalist. If Communism, Socialism, Stalinism or Maoism was successful?
And why are the economies of Cuba, Venezuela and DPRK failing?

JE...

Wonder how Mr. Socialist will respond to Venezuelan Socialist President Maduro finally admitting today the following:

That his country's failure is not the evil Yankee's fault, but their own?
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Message 1947388 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 1:15:13 UTC

JE...

Wonder how Mr. Socialist will respond to Venezuelan Socialist President Maduro finally admitting today the following:

That his country's failure is not the evil Yankee's fault, but their own?
I've said it before, with apologies to Tim Allen "Capitalists are Pigs.........Too bad we own everything".

Let that sink in for as long as it takes..........

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Message 1947389 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 1:22:56 UTC - in response to Message 1947385.  

And why are the economies of Cuba, Venezuela and DPRK failing?

Sanctions?
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Message 1947390 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 1:26:19 UTC - in response to Message 1947387.  

The Stalin model is now being studied by many and is marked by success and effectiveness.

Was it worth the cost in lives, that's a value judgement?
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Message 1947395 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 2:02:40 UTC - in response to Message 1947387.  
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In the Stalin period, the factory opened every day. Stalin created the state corporation. This was a great experiment and Stalin confirmed it with three achievements:
1. Victory in the Second World War.
2. The creation of nuclear weapons (Tsar Bomb)
3. Space flights. The Institute of Missile Engines appeared in the 1930s.
The Stalin model is now being studied by many and is marked by success and effectiveness.
Oh dear:)
Even most Russians doesn't belive this.
Facts.
1. The Soviet Union was allied to USA during the WWII.
2. Soviet fission nuclear weapons was developed with the help of Russian spies in the Manhattan Project.
Tsar Bomba was a fusion nuclear weapon that was developed by Andrei Sakharov and others in the same way as it was done in the US at that time.
Stalin was dead when Tsar Bomba was developed!
3. Space flights have always been a military project.
Without the cold war there wouldn't been any space programs.
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Message 1947412 - Posted: 2 Aug 2018, 3:31:14 UTC - in response to Message 1947395.  

Without the cold war there wouldn't been any space programs.

Everyone saw what a V-2 could do; it and the thought of a nuclear weapon on top caused the cold war.
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