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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 
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This thread wonders all over the place. It has no "topic" so you can't be moderated for being "off topic" :)You could be. This thread is in the Number Crunching forum, so any topic should be hardware/technology/software related. For other topics, make use of the the original " Don't know where it should go? Stick it here!" thread in the Cafe forum. Grant Darwin NT |
 petri33 Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 1668 Credit: 623,086,772 RAC: 156 
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Well the leaks are out about the NVIDIA RTX 3070/3080 I'd wait for the non RTX variation. 2180Ti or smthng. The reason: RTX2080Ti is slower than Titan V by 5% and the power usage is 50% more. The Titan V runs cooler and uses far less power on Seti workload. Why? My guess: It does not have RTX cores (that are not used on 20x0 but are still fed power to). So If NVIDIA would release a consumer market version of 2080Ti without RTX cores its wattage would put it in favor of many popular cards when running Seti. My other guess is that NVIDIA did deliberately not offer a SW based solution to shut down RTX cores with consumer market prized cards (RTX2080TI and Titan) so that they can sell "professionally targeted" 3x priced scientific oriented server farm cards (Quadro etc.) that use far less power when compared to 2080Ti. -- To overcome Heisenbergs: "You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones |
Ian&Steve C.  Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 
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petri I think the most likely reason for the power draw difference is the clock speeds of the Titan V under P2 clocks. it gets reduced pretty low to like 1300MHz, and I'm sure core voltage is being reduced as well. If I recall, I found the solution for the clock speed that allowed you to get full speed, and you reported higher power consumption (greater than the 2080ti) but not much improvement in speed. since the special app scales better with SM count, and the TitanV has a massive 80 SMs and more memory bandwidth. I think this is the reason for the efficiency more than the presence of RT cores, which are not being used by the special app. on the Turing architecture cards, RTX 20 cards and GTX 16 cards are pretty close in efficiency. a lot closer than your Volta vs RTX comparison, So I do not think the RT cores are a big issue. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours  
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Kissagogo27   Send message Joined: 6 Nov 99 Posts: 716 Credit: 8,032,827 RAC: 62 
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have found some petri twin ^^ http://www.teamocuk.co.uk/spart.php?p=SAH&u=8140075 |
Sirius B   Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 
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Sorry folks. Forgt to hit F12 this morning on bootup so rig entered Mint. On checking on Boinc, found all 17 tasks with computation error. Thought that strange as the hardware Is just the same as when it boots into Windows. Checking on tasks, it shows that they are still in progress & checking on the wu, it shows "suppressed pending completion". Never seen that before. Computer 8888215 |
Mr. Kevvy    Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 
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Checking on tasks, it shows that they are still in progress & checking on the wu, it shows "suppressed pending completion". Never seen that before. It's come up in other threads in this forum... it appears to have been introduced in the most recent Tuesday and the hypothesis is that it's to reduce the database transactions. 
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MarkJ  Send message Joined: 17 Feb 08 Posts: 1139 Credit: 80,854,192 RAC: 5
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Checking on tasks, it shows that they are still in progress & checking on the wu, it shows "suppressed pending completion". Never seen that before. They had a similar thing at Einstein. Some of their tasks have single replication so they didn’t want you to know until after it had validated. They set some tasks at random to double replication to make sure you’re producing valid results. BOINC blog |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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It's come up in other threads in this forum... it appears to have been introduced in the most recent Tuesday and the hypothesis is that it's to reduce the database transactions.Yes, noticed that shortly after posting. :-( Just fnished checking on the Mint installation, those 17 wu's still showing up as "computation errors" so can't understand as to why they show up on the tasks page as "in progress". Also, I thought Boinc operated via web preferences unless otherwise set in local. The rig is the same just different O/S. |
Keith Myers  Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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Nvidia posted a new document outlining its driver support for legacy gpus. Basically no further development for pre_Fermi gpus. https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/ Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours   A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19064 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 
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Nvidia posted a new document outlining its driver support for legacy gpus. Basically no further development for pre_Fermi gpus. How much does that matter here, I can't say I have seen any pre-400 or 500 GPU's in use here. |
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Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640
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They’re definitely still around. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours
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J. Mileski  Send message Joined: 9 Jun 02 Posts: 632 Credit: 172,116,532 RAC: 572
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I still have a pair of GTX 550 ti's |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304
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Nvidia posted a new document outlining its driver support for legacy gpus. Basically no further development for pre_Fermi gpus.So it's almost caught up with Windows. They don't even support Fermi anymore (as of 12 months ago). Effective April 2018, Game Ready Driver upgrades, including performance enhancements, new features, and bug fixes, will be available only on Kepler, Maxwell, and Pascal series GPUs. Critical security updates will be available on Fermi series GPUs through January 2019. Grant Darwin NT |
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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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They’re definitely still around. Yep, I seem to get a lot of GT210 wingmen for some reason. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
They’re definitely still around. Maybe they are there to slow you down :) Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Horror of Horrors..... I am about ready to fall out of the top 20. Shame on you Seti...... ROFLing. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Jimbocous  Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349
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Horror of Horrors..... I am about ready to fall out of the top 20.Truly a terrible thing ...  
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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Found this a bit strange. After installing Mint 19.3 Tricia, downloaded & ran Boinc. Version I got was 7.9.3 On checking for the latest version see from the Boinc page it is 7.4.22 for both 32 & 64 bit. However I see people running Mint 19 Tara using 7.14.2. So, can anyone tell me, what is the latest version & where can I get it from? |
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Juhani Karjanlahti Send message Joined: 23 Jan 03 Posts: 15 Credit: 83,675,733 RAC: 149
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boinc sudo apt-get update Now with Mint Update Manager you can get Boinc updated to version 7.16.4. |
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Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874
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Which is a trial version, and has problems. It's been withdrawn, waiting for v7.16.5sudo add-apt-repository ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boinc sudo apt-get update |
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