I've found that my system with the 6 cards in it, using the 1x USB-PCIe connectors is not an issue for me, the biggest drop dead issue that I ran into was the max supported # of GPU's. I think windows has a hard limit, but obviously with mining, some special OS allows them to blow past that limit. Not sure how it'd be done for BOINC though, as once I had hit that limit, I lost interest in trying to push beyond it, 6 GPU's was fine for me at that point in time. It'd be interesting if someone had the gumption and resources to get it, and see if they could find a way to make it work. Talk about trailblazing! ;-)

In the specs on the MB it only mentions Win7 and Win10. I read someplace that there is a "hard limit" of 8 at the driver level for both NVidia and Amd/Ati, but that someone was trying to get the Amd/Ati limit lifted.

What that doesn't answer is how some of those MB with more than 16 gpu's are actually getting them to run? Something special in the bios or Linux? Since Linux uses proprietary drivers for Seti calculations I don't see how Linux could get past the limit either.

More research needed :)

Tom

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For kicks I priced it out on Newegg.
Board, 8600k/240mm cooler, 32G
18 various EVGA 1080Ti (can't get 18 the same, LOL), plus 1030
3 x EVGA 1600W
APC 5000 UPS

27 item(s): $27,797.79
Warranty & Services: $3,239.00
GST/HST: $1,553.59
PST: $387.53
Shipping: $34.97
Grand Total: $33,012.88 CAD

Add an SSD and 20 risers - $600
Plus 2 sheets of MDF, screws and glue, will that do it Al?

Ohh and the power bill !!!!!

Maybe that is what he is making in the SuperComputer thread :) Its about the same budget.

Maybe we should start with 3-4 gtx 1080Ti's from the used market? And grow slowly to 16....

Tom

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Here is a 20 gpu count of the MB with a direct USB 3.0 plug in so you don't have to use the "slot" cards. 1 step simpler, maybe 1 step more reliable.

https://edgeup.asus.com/2018/asus-h370-mining-master-20-gpus-one-motherboard-pcie-over-usb/

It makes me dream.

I just ordered an engineering sample of a really expensive 15 core/30 thread cpu that baselines at 2.8Ghz. Since it is LGA2011 v1 its going to replace my e5-2670 v1 (8c/16t/2.6Ghz). I managed to pay $112 for a nearly $400+ with a ridiculous list price of $6,000+.
Core envy strikes again?

Tom

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

For kicks I priced it out on Newegg.
Board, 8600k/240mm cooler, 32G
18 various EVGA 1080Ti (can't get 18 the same, LOL), plus 1030
3 x EVGA 1600W
APC 5000 UPS

27 item(s): $27,797.79
Warranty & Services: $3,239.00
GST/HST: $1,553.59
PST: $387.53
Shipping: $34.97
Grand Total: $33,012.88 CAD

Add an SSD and 20 risers - $600
Plus 2 sheets of MDF, screws and glue, will that do it Al?

Ohh and the power bill !!!!!

Weeelll... I guess might work. And Heck, if I drop off all those *ST taxes, it comes down to merely $21316.46 US. Hold on a sec, let me check my wallet. Ok..

Huh. Well, those moths flying out of it were a pretty good indication of the odds of me attempting it, anybody else out there want to take a crack at it? ;-) But hey, I do have a bunch of solar on my roof, so I'd volunteer to host the thing, at least in the spring thru fall when there isn't snow covering them.

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Here is a 20 gpu count of the MB with a direct USB 3.0 plug in so you don't have to use the "slot" cards. 1 step simpler, maybe 1 step more reliable.

https://edgeup.asus.com/2018/asus-h370-mining-master-20-gpus-one-motherboard-pcie-over-usb/

It makes me dream.

I just ordered an engineering sample of a really expensive 15 core/30 thread cpu that baselines at 2.8Ghz. Since it is LGA2011 v1 its going to replace my e5-2670 v1 (8c/16t/2.6Ghz). I managed to pay $112 for a nearly $400+ with a ridiculous list price of $6,000+.
Core envy strikes again?

Tom

Tom, sounds like Fun! Only thing to be concerned about, though at this price it isn't a killer if it ends up not working, is that some MB's do not play nicely with ES chips. Have you found anyone out on the interwebs that has used your model MB with an ES successfully?

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Here is a 20 gpu count of the MB with a direct USB 3.0 plug in so you don't have to use the "slot" cards. 1 step simpler, maybe 1 step more reliable.

https://edgeup.asus.com/2018/asus-h370-mining-master-20-gpus-one-motherboard-pcie-over-usb/

It makes me dream.

I just ordered an engineering sample of a really expensive 15 core/30 thread cpu that baselines at 2.8Ghz. Since it is LGA2011 v1 its going to replace my e5-2670 v1 (8c/16t/2.6Ghz). I managed to pay $112 for a nearly $400+ with a ridiculous list price of $6,000+.
Core envy strikes again?

Tom

Tom, sounds like Fun! Only thing to be concerned about, though at this price it isn't a killer if it ends up not working, is that some MB's do not play nicely with ES chips. Have you found anyone out on the interwebs that has used your model MB with an ES successfully?

I have successfully installed a e5-2670 on a "generic" Intel X79 under both Windows7 (sorta) and Lubuntu. The main catch under windows is you need the RTL (where did my note go) LAN driver not the Intel one. Under windows if you run the HW_Info utility it will tell you exactly what the LAN chip is called. And you can download/install it for Windows.

Lubuntu figured out the driver so there is a good chance Win10 would find it too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/X79-Motherboard-LGA2011-REG-ECC-DDR3-4-Channels-E5-2670-I7-CPU-US/112735031822?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

If you use my seller, you will want to contact them and pay for a 2 day priority shipping. Their "free delivery" took almost 3 weeks to get to me.

Tom

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I have successfully installed a e5-2670 on a "generic" Intel X79 under both Windows7 (sorta) and Lubuntu. The main catch under windows is you need the RTL (where did my note go) LAN driver not the Intel one. Under windows if you run the HW_Info utility it will tell you exactly what the LAN chip is called. And you can download/install it for Windows.

Lubuntu figured out the driver so there is a good chance Win10 would find it too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/X79-Motherboard-LGA2011-REG-ECC-DDR3-4-Channels-E5-2670-I7-CPU-US/112735031822?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

If you use my seller, you will want to contact them and pay for a 2 day priority shipping. Their "free delivery" took almost 3 weeks to get to me.

Tom

The main issue is actually the combination of the Engineering Sample CPU and the motherboard recognizing it I've read. I'd think that if the system posts successfully, you're most of the way there. Well, let us know how it works for you once you receive it!

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Another problem is those boards have no turning ability.

I have one of those China boards and when hunting for a manual and ran across a Russian guide for changing the CPU voltage and RAM speed.
It can be done, if you don't mind getting out the soldering iron and adding resistors and caps to the board!
The board Tom showed was one the same page of 4 or 5 China boards with the same general config.

My board works, but I can't load the 3930K up with 12 tasks or it will crash. Not enough CPU voltage to load it.
At 6 tasks it works fine.

Here is a 20 gpu count of the MB with a direct USB 3.0 plug in so you don't have to use the "slot" cards. 1 step simpler, maybe 1 step more reliable.

https://edgeup.asus.com/2018/asus-h370-mining-master-20-gpus-one-motherboard-pcie-over-usb/

It makes me dream.

I just ordered an engineering sample of a really expensive 15 core/30 thread cpu that baselines at 2.8Ghz. Since it is LGA2011 v1 its going to replace my e5-2670 v1 (8c/16t/2.6Ghz). I managed to pay $112 for a nearly $400+ with a ridiculous list price of $6,000+.
Core envy strikes again?

Tom

sad to say, you wasted your money. what you bought was an E7 Xeon. yes it's an LGA 2011 socket, but it's NOT the same socket as your E5-2670.

there is no consumer or "normal" motherboard that uses those chips. every motherboard for them is proprietary server gear.

the reason it was so cheap, is because there's no secondary market for it.

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

also, before anyone runs out buying a B250 19 GPU mining board, or even the new 20 GPU board

they are designed to run mining specific version of GPUs. basically a normal GPU with some memory timing tweaks, and no display outputs.

the B250 specifically can only run 13 normal consumer GPUs, to get 19 cards on the board, you have to run 6 mining specific cards. its locked that way in the BIOS, can't be changed. it's probably a similar story on the 20 GPU board.

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

I was wondering how they handled that with the 8700k only having 16 PCI lanes.
They must do some sort of time domain sharing (like the x2/x4 risers) to make it all work.

I was wondering how they handled that with the 8700k only having 16 PCI lanes.
They must do some sort of time domain sharing (like the x2/x4 risers) to make it all work.

in almost all motherboards, you have PCIe lanes supplied by the CPU, and by the PCH.

take that 8700k for example. it has 16 PCIe lanes, and it's usually configured only to the main x16 slot (or split x8/x8 between the 2 main x16 slots). throw in a GPU and all your lanes are used. so how do you use the other PCIe slots? the PCH! it gives you more lanes. usually the motherboard documentation tells you the distribution of lanes, as well as any conflicts of running certain slots with certain other controllers. it's very common to have a certain slot not work if you're using a certain m.2 drive, or certain SATA ports not working if you're using certain M.2 ports, and so on. most people wont notice these limitations until they try to use all the ports simultaneously, which is what a lot of people into mining run into.

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

Here is a 20 gpu count of the MB with a direct USB 3.0 plug in so you don't have to use the "slot" cards. 1 step simpler, maybe 1 step more reliable.

https://edgeup.asus.com/2018/asus-h370-mining-master-20-gpus-one-motherboard-pcie-over-usb/

It makes me dream.

I just ordered an engineering sample of a really expensive 15 core/30 thread cpu that baselines at 2.8Ghz. Since it is LGA2011 v1 its going to replace my e5-2670 v1 (8c/16t/2.6Ghz). I managed to pay $112 for a nearly $400+ with a ridiculous list price of $6,000+.
Core envy strikes again?

Tom

sad to say, you wasted your money. what you bought was an E7 Xeon. yes it's an LGA 2011 socket, but it's NOT the same socket as your E5-2670.

there is no consumer or "normal" motherboard that uses those chips. every motherboard for them is proprietary server gear.

the reason it was so cheap, is because there's no secondary market for it.

Ouch! Do you know if it will fry the MB if I try it?

What is the used cheapest, faster, high core count Lga 2011 v2 cpu out there?

Tom

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Doubt if the motherboard will suffer, but either the CPU will not run or it will be fried.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Here is a 20 gpu count of the MB with a direct USB 3.0 plug in so you don't have to use the "slot" cards. 1 step simpler, maybe 1 step more reliable.

https://edgeup.asus.com/2018/asus-h370-mining-master-20-gpus-one-motherboard-pcie-over-usb/

It makes me dream.

I just ordered an engineering sample of a really expensive 15 core/30 thread cpu that baselines at 2.8Ghz. Since it is LGA2011 v1 its going to replace my e5-2670 v1 (8c/16t/2.6Ghz). I managed to pay $112 for a nearly $400+ with a ridiculous list price of $6,000+.
Core envy strikes again?

Tom

sad to say, you wasted your money. what you bought was an E7 Xeon. yes it's an LGA 2011 socket, but it's NOT the same socket as your E5-2670.

there is no consumer or "normal" motherboard that uses those chips. every motherboard for them is proprietary server gear.

the reason it was so cheap, is because there's no secondary market for it.

Ouch! Do you know if it will fry the MB if I try it?

What is the used cheapest, faster, high core count Lga 2011 v2 cpu out there?

Tom

Doubt it will even fit. The CPUs are physically different sizes. The E7s have a rectangular shape, the E5s are more square.

You’ll see. It will be obvious that they won’t fit.

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

Here is a 20 gpu count of the MB with a direct USB 3.0 plug in so you don't have to use the "slot" cards. 1 step simpler, maybe 1 step more reliable.

https://edgeup.asus.com/2018/asus-h370-mining-master-20-gpus-one-motherboard-pcie-over-usb/

It makes me dream.

I just ordered an engineering sample of a really expensive 15 core/30 thread cpu that baselines at 2.8Ghz. Since it is LGA2011 v1 its going to replace my e5-2670 v1 (8c/16t/2.6Ghz). I managed to pay $112 for a nearly $400+ with a ridiculous list price of $6,000+.
Core envy strikes again?

Tom

sad to say, you wasted your money. what you bought was an E7 Xeon. yes it's an LGA 2011 socket, but it's NOT the same socket as your E5-2670.

there is no consumer or "normal" motherboard that uses those chips. every motherboard for them is proprietary server gear.

the reason it was so cheap, is because there's no secondary market for it.

Ouch! Do you know if it will fry the MB if I try it?

What is the used cheapest, faster, high core count Lga 2011 v2 cpu out there?

Tom

Doubt it will even fit. The CPUs are physically different sizes. The E7s have a rectangular shape, the E5s are more square.

You’ll see. It will be obvious that they won’t fit.

It makes me wonder though. All the docs, the reviews, all say "LGA 2011" that includes the specs as listed on ark.intel.com. It would seem strange if it didn't fit lga 2011. Maybe that is what "ES" standards for (Engineers Screwed [it up]). ;)

The non-ES versions something like $300+

I can always try to sell it.

Tom

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Another problem is those boards have no turning ability.

I have one of those China boards and when hunting for a manual and ran across a Russian guide for changing the CPU voltage and RAM speed.
It can be done, if you don't mind getting out the soldering iron and adding resistors and caps to the board!
The board Tom showed was one the same page of 4 or 5 China boards with the same general config.

My board works, but I can't load the 3930K up with 12 tasks or it will crash. Not enough CPU voltage to load it.
At 6 tasks it works fine.

I was poking around in the Bios under the cpu and the power menu submenu under that in "custom" had the ability to control the watts going to cpu for "turbo" I think. In any case it defaulted to 115 watts. Since your chips TDP appears to be 130 watts you might try upping that number and then retesting your previous issues.

Who knows, that MIGHT fix the problem without the soldering iron.

If it does, and if the "new to me" cpu I am getting in actually fits the socket, I am probably going to have to turn it up to something 150 watts.

Tom

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There are 3 different intel 2011 sockets.

2011-0, or R, is what you have. It’s for the X79/C600 series chipsets for Sandy Bridge E/EP and Ivy Bridge E/EP chips, including your V1 E5 Xeons. Also supports v2 Xeons on certain boards.

2011-1, or R2, is for the E7 Xeons, needs a proprietary motherboard.

2011-3, or 2011-v3, or R3, is for X99/C612 for Haswell E/EP chips including v3 Xeons.

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

Here is a 20 gpu count of the MB with a direct USB 3.0 plug in so you don't have to use the "slot" cards. 1 step simpler, maybe 1 step more reliable.

https://edgeup.asus.com/2018/asus-h370-mining-master-20-gpus-one-motherboard-pcie-over-usb/

It makes me dream.

I just ordered an engineering sample of a really expensive 15 core/30 thread cpu that baselines at 2.8Ghz. Since it is LGA2011 v1 its going to replace my e5-2670 v1 (8c/16t/2.6Ghz). I managed to pay $112 for a nearly $400+ with a ridiculous list price of $6,000+.
Core envy strikes again?

Tom

sad to say, you wasted your money. what you bought was an E7 Xeon. yes it's an LGA 2011 socket, but it's NOT the same socket as your E5-2670.

there is no consumer or "normal" motherboard that uses those chips. every motherboard for them is proprietary server gear.

the reason it was so cheap, is because there's no secondary market for it.

Ouch! Do you know if it will fry the MB if I try it?

What is the used cheapest, faster, high core count Lga 2011 v2 cpu out there?

Tom

Doubt it will even fit. The CPUs are physically different sizes. The E7s have a rectangular shape, the E5s are more square.

You’ll see. It will be obvious that they won’t fit.

It makes me wonder though. All the docs, the reviews, all say "LGA 2011" that includes the specs as listed on ark.intel.com. It would seem strange if it didn't fit lga 2011. Maybe that is what "ES" standards for (Engineers Screwed [it up]). ;)

The non-ES versions something like $300+

I can always try to sell it.

Tom

ES stands for Engineering Sample, and legally shouldn’t be resold. Intel actually tried to go after some buyers/sellers some years back claiming it was their property. Technically they are correct, but Intel just gave up that fight I believe.

Some motherboards support ES chips, some do not. ASUS for example has a long history of not supporting ES chips in most cases.

MSI is pretty good about it. As is Gigabyte and Asrock if I recall correctly. I have no idea about supermicro though, I’ve never tried.

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

There are 3 different intel 2011 sockets.

2011-0, or R, is what you have. It’s for the X79/C600 series chipsets for Sandy Bridge E/EP and Ivy Bridge E/EP chips, including your V1 E5 Xeons. Also supports v2 Xeons on certain boards.

2011-1, or R2, is for the E7 Xeons, needs a proprietary motherboard.

2011-3, or 2011-v3, or R3, is for X99/C612 for Haswell E/EP chips including v3 Xeons.

Ok, I have run across the V1, V2, and V3 distinctions, which I think is what you are describing here.

I also ran across the assertion that v1/v2 chips will run on the same Lga 2011 socket but that V3 chips would not.

What I think I hear you saying is that V2 chips may or maynot run on V1 motherboards?

Thank you for additional education.
Tom

ps. This is a different listing but the same chip, I think: [url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-QFJY-E7-4890-V2-ES-2-8GHz-15CORE-Socket-R-LGA-2011-1-Intel-Xeon-QFJ/273382361237?hash=item3fa6dbc895:g:TDUAAOSwAllbYQ7M [/url]

In the title it specifically mentions: lga-2011-1 So I am waiting for my chip to get here so I can say darn, it looked like a good idea at the time :)

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