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Message 2005825 - Posted: 5 Aug 2019, 7:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 2005824.  

I would say the 2070 Super should be equivalent to the 2080. Take a look at my hosts for 2080 times. I am running four of them.
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Message 2005867 - Posted: 5 Aug 2019, 14:59:46 UTC - in response to Message 2005825.  

the 2070 super will be ever so slightly slower than a 2080.

I would prefer to just stick to the 2070 or 2080 though. the super series will require newer drivers which incur a performance hit. the 2070/2080 can use the older driver that avoids this performance hit. I'm not sure if this issue exists in the windows drivers, but it's there for the linux drivers (at least when running the CUDA special app)
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Message 2005881 - Posted: 5 Aug 2019, 18:12:08 UTC

Would it be possible to code the seti application tu use an FPGA accelerator?

If so, what woul be the speed increase? 10x Vs GPU?

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-d5005-programmable-acceleration-card,40092.html
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Message 2005884 - Posted: 5 Aug 2019, 18:23:31 UTC - in response to Message 2005881.  

Would it be possible to code the seti application tu use an FPGA accelerator?

If so, what woul be the speed increase? 10x Vs GPU?

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-d5005-programmable-acceleration-card,40092.html

Maybe. Possibly. If that accelerator could be programmed to emulate the CUDA or OpenCL API.
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Message 2005885 - Posted: 5 Aug 2019, 18:24:45 UTC - in response to Message 2005881.  

hypothetically there could be a massive speed boost. but there's no one working on it. an application would have to be written, and I think BOINC would also need to be modified to recognize such a device. the SETI project might also need to change some things to handle the new device type. unless you just fooled BOINC into thinking your FPGA is a GPU.
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Message 2005887 - Posted: 5 Aug 2019, 18:27:11 UTC
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Possible: Yes, probable: No, unless somebody develop the app to crunch on it.

Hard to imagine someone who spend the resources to build the app on a device with very little users like this.
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Message 2005968 - Posted: 6 Aug 2019, 7:20:36 UTC

And the device becomes a paper weight when the next update to the Seti MB application occurs.
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Message 2005970 - Posted: 6 Aug 2019, 7:23:16 UTC - in response to Message 2005968.  

And the device becomes a paper weight when the next update to the Seti MB application occurs.

No not true. The beauty of a FPGA is that it is reconfigurable. Just blow it clean and start again programming the silicon.
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Message 2005972 - Posted: 6 Aug 2019, 7:27:57 UTC - in response to Message 2005970.  

And the device becomes a paper weight when the next update to the Seti MB application occurs.
No not true. The beauty of a FPGA is that it is reconfigurable. Just blow it clean and start again programming the silicon.
*slaps self*
The F at the front there didn't fully register.
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Message 2005974 - Posted: 6 Aug 2019, 8:17:37 UTC

Setizens,

Didn't know where to post this, so it is ending up here.

Is it ok to post ads anywhere here for GPUs for sale?

BK has a LOT to part with, and would like them to initially go to SETI research, or at least someone interested enough in SETI@home to be reading this on the forums.

If not, BK try elsewhere.

Thanks!

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Message 2005975 - Posted: 6 Aug 2019, 8:22:54 UTC

In general SETI does not encourage advertising of goods or services. Commercial advertising is specifically forbidden.
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Message 2005997 - Posted: 6 Aug 2019, 13:07:24 UTC - in response to Message 2005975.  

Noted, thanks!
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Message 2006009 - Posted: 6 Aug 2019, 14:54:06 UTC - in response to Message 2005974.  

Setizens,

Didn't know where to post this, so it is ending up here.

Is it ok to post ads anywhere here for GPUs for sale?

BK has a LOT to part with, and would like them to initially go to SETI research, or at least someone interested enough in SETI@home to be reading this on the forums.

If not, BK try elsewhere.

Thanks!

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You could post SETI Gpus for sale on eBay and/or Redit. And specifically ask for the Seti userid to screen the potential buyers.

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Message 2006079 - Posted: 7 Aug 2019, 0:16:20 UTC

It's 1715 on the USA left coast.
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Message 2006208 - Posted: 7 Aug 2019, 20:28:06 UTC

Looks like Nvidia has finally made good on its promise to release the documentation for its gpus to the open-source community. So the Nouveau driver development team should have an easier time bringing the latest Nvidia gpu features to the stock graphics drivers.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Open-GPU-Docs
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Message 2006879 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 0:36:51 UTC

Just an FYI, I don't know whether any of you saw the post by JStateson about the BoincTasks history tool he has developed. That one needs to be compiled in VS in Windows so not so usable by us with Linux OS. BUT he also has a really nifty, handy online tool he hosts that gives a easy quick and dirty snapshot of the performance of your hosts by simply copying and pasting the URL of a page from your validated tasks list for any host. Prints out average calc times, expected daily production and how much power it took to generate those credits.
This is a snapshot of my daily driver for example
Run Time     CPU Time     Credit
         (sec)         (sec)
            68.4          61.2         75.9
            44.6          34.8         65.3
            47.4          25.1         64.6
            44.4          26.4         64.1
            68.9          56.4         73.3
            69.5          44.2         71.9
            69.0          48.0         72.4
            43.1          28.3         62.6
            45.7          35.3         66.7
            44.7          26.8         65.7
            49.2          41.8         69.7
            66.8          64.9         71.1
            45.7          42.9         67.4
            42.4          24.3         63.0
            47.7          34.3         70.3
            45.6          28.5         70.7
            44.6          27.2         67.3
            46.7          38.6         75.7
            48.0          40.9         71.2
            43.8          37.9         68.7
         ----------------------------------

Avg:        51.3          38.4         68.9
STD:        10.1          11.7          3.9

0.74 seconds per credit from above info one device
1.3426 Credits per second for one device
Times shown above were divided by number of concurrent tasks(1)
4,834 number of credits in an hour this system
207 total watts used by a single producing device (avg each work unit)
4,834 credits per hour for exactly one device(1 tasks)
A kilowatt hour will theoretically produce maximum of 23,350 credits each device this PC
Use the above KWH credits to compare this device with any other device
as the overhead (idle) has been removed
Actual credit product is less because the GPU has idle time between tasks


The tool is located here:http://stateson.net/HostProjectStats/

[Edit] This tool makes it really easy to estimate what the eventual RAC for a host will end up. That question always seems to come up in the forums. The only drawback is you can't combine the outputs of both cpu and gpu tasks together and have the total production. You can open up two browser tabs and calculate what the output is for the hosts cpu contribution and on another tab the contribution for the hosts gpus.
To get the best estimate find a page that has only cpu tasks in it for the cpu calculation and only gpu tasks for the gpu calculation.
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Message 2006909 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 4:25:28 UTC

I have an interesting problem when it comes to Boinc Tasks 1.78 on Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

when I start the program the icon appears in my icon dock as normal when I double click the icon it displays on the taskbar like normal when I click on the icon on the task bar nothing gets displayed. When I move the cursor over the icon on the taskbar a little little image of Boinc tasks is displayed, when I moved my cursor over the image I get a picture of my desktop instead of Boinc tasks being displayed.

I have tried uninstalling reinstalling I have tried using different versions but to no avail does anyone know how to fix this. I have had this happen once before but I cannot remember for the life of me how I fixed it :(
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Message 2006916 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 5:11:57 UTC

Hope a Windows user jumps in with some suggestions. Been too long for me for how and what it looks like on native Windows.
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Message 2006919 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 6:06:35 UTC - in response to Message 2006916.  

Hope a Windows user jumps in with some suggestions. Been too long for me for how and what it looks like on native Windows.

Thanks Keith I am also hopeful of this.
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Message 2006920 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 6:38:25 UTC - in response to Message 2006919.  

Hope a Windows user jumps in with some suggestions. Been too long for me for how and what it looks like on native Windows.
Thanks Keith I am also hopeful of this.
Seems to me the time I saw something similar to this it was because BT thought it belonged on a different desktop, one that I wasn't actually using. Hooked up a monitor to the desktop and dragged it back where it belonged:)
Easier way to do this, if that's the problem, is to use alt-tab to select the BT window, then use Shift-WindowsKey-arrow (L or R, as applicable) to move the task to a desktop you can see. If nothing else, alt-tab should let you see if Win thinks it's up somewhere. That shift-win-arrow combination is a useful and not often mentioned nicety.
Hope it helps.
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