https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/climate.action

Well, that's great, earning new badges. ^^

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https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/climate.action
Well, that's great, earning new badges. ^^

Well, new badges and perhaps helping climate scientists convince politicians that preventing everybody's homes and communities from being flooded (or worse) would be a good idea =:/

Hum... Just too bad I can't get anymore some of your shiny badges !

Pierre

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Apr 3, 1999 - May 3, 2020

To the best of my knowledge and reading, climate change can always be noted if you choose appropriate time intervals and eras. Now then, since that is settled, I would also like to posit that there has never, never been a workable cure put forth that would have any effect whatsoever.

If you all collectively think:

1. That believing Mankind's small contribution to CO-2 production mixing into an atmosphere that contains .4% CO-2 from mostly natural sources will counteract all of the Sun's and Nature's cycles.

2. That C0-2 has a worrisome effect compared with water vapor (clouds) or methane


then I would question your thinking processes .

Arctic’s strongest sea ice breaks up for first time on record
by Jonathan Watts, Tue 21 Aug 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/21/arctics-strongest-sea-ice-breaks-up-for-first-time-on-record
Usually frozen waters open up twice this year in phenomenon scientists described as scary

The oldest and thickest sea ice in the Arctic has started to break up, opening waters north of Greenland that are normally frozen, even in summer.

This phenomenon – which has never been recorded before – has occurred twice this year due to warm winds and a climate-change driven heatwave in the northern hemisphere.

NASA Will Launch a Laser Into Space Next Month to Track Earth’s Melting Ice
by Meghan Bartels, Space.com Senior Writer | August 23, 2018
https://www.space.com/41596-nasa-icesat2-earth-ice-satellite-september-launch.html

Called the Ice, Cloud and Land Elevation Satellite-2 (ICESat-2), the mission is currently scheduled to launch in mid-September. The satellite will be able to measure the changing thickness of individual patches of ice from season to season, registering increases and decreases as small as a fifth of an inch (half a centimeter).

"The areas that we're talking about are vast — think the size of the continental U.S. or larger — and the changes that are occurring over them can be very small," Tom Wagner, a NASA scientist studying the world's ice, said during a news conference yesterday (Aug. 22). "They benefit from an instrument that can make repeat measurements in a very precise way over a large area, and that's why satellites are an ideal way to study them." [How NASA Is Tracking Earth's Melting Arctic Sea Ice (Video)]

While the mission is optimized for studying ice at the poles, its data should also aid scientists studying forests around the planet.

ICESat-2, which cost a little over $1 billion and is about the size of a Smart car, will follow two previous major NASA projects to monitor ice thickness.

In 2003, the original ICESat began seven years of laser-aided measurements of ice height, bouncing a single laser off the surface of the ice. Because ICESat-2 wasn't ready to launch when the original mission ended, NASA designed a stopgap airplane-based mission called Operation IceBridge to track particularly crucial areas of ice.

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Apr 3, 1999 - May 3, 2020

There is a BOINC project climateprediction.net managed by Oxford University with programs of the UK Meteorological Office. I am running it both on my Windows 10 and Linux hosts. It needs neither VirtualBox nor GPUs. it is a CPU only project. Its main drawback is the time needed to run the tasks, but there are no deadlines.
Tullio

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I still maintain that since no matter what we try to reverse climate change it won't have the desired effect we should concentrate on how to make it work to our good.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

To the best of my knowledge and reading, climate change can always be noted if you choose appropriate time intervals and eras. Now then, since that is settled, I would also like to posit that there has never, never been a workable cure put forth that would have any effect whatsoever.
If you all collectively think:
1. That believing Mankind's small contribution to CO-2 production mixing into an atmosphere that contains .4% CO-2 from mostly natural sources will counteract all of the Sun's and Nature's cycles.
2. That C0-2 has a worrisome effect compared with water vapor (clouds) or methane
then I would question your thinking processes .

Thinking...
1. Small contribution?

2. Higher CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere leads to higher temperatures which leads to more water vapor (clouds) and methane which leads to... and leads to... Think Venus..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere

I still maintain that since no matter what we try to reverse climate change it won't have the desired effect
we should concentrate on how to make it work to our good.

I tend to agree with one point; we're on a high-speed train that will be difficult to stop. But would building technology-gated communities, priviledged only for the few, really be a viable solution even for the gated communities themselves, who'd only be buying time as the train gains speed ? And it is a dangerous self-fulfilling prophecy that perpetuates and compounds the impacts and problems the false assumption that the train can't be stopped. Because such trains were stopped in the past, such as the ozone hole problem.

Imho, laisser-faire isn't an option, as many countries realize the real-life socio-economic impacts of anthropogenic climate change. I don'tt know what game theory says about the matter, but it sure appears we won't have the luxury of neglecting any of the fronts we're facing. And I fail to see how changing our attitudes isn't an absolute prerequisite if we intend to win this other civilizational challenge.

From Eric Mack's 2016 article "We Successfully Reduced The Ozone Hole, Is Climate Change Next?" :

Perhaps there is hope; hope for a solution that can use our addiction to growth to solve our biggest problem; hope that technology can find ways that allow us to continue to grow but produce less exhaust in the process. We've fixed things before, and with far less knowledge and ability than we have now. Each new success, like the latest with the ozone layer, should be a reminder to stay vigilant against the constant temptation of cynicism.

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Apr 3, 1999 - May 3, 2020

How Much Hotter Is Your Hometown Than When You Were Born ?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/30/climate/how-much-hotter-is-your-hometown.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

As the world warms because of human-induced climate change, most of us can expect to see more days when temperatures hit 90 degrees Fahrenheit (32 degrees Celsius) or higher. See how your hometown has changed so far and how much hotter it may get.

NASA Has Discovered Arctic Lakes Bubbling With Methane—and That’s Very Bad News
by Hannah Osborne On 9/13/18
https://www.newsweek.com/arctic-permafrost-lakes-bubbling-methane-nasa-1119624

Lakes across Alaska and Siberia have started to bubble with methane, and the release of this highly potent greenhouse gas has scientists worried. Last month NASA released footage showing the bubbling Arctic lakes, which are the result of a little known phenomenon called “abrupt thawing.” It occurs when the permafrost—ground that has been frozen for potentially thousands of years—thaws faster than expected.

Scientists have long known that the thawing permafrost has the potential to release large amounts of methane into the atmosphere. As the organic matter that has been locked up in the ground defrosts it decomposes, releasing carbon and methane (a hydrocarbon) in the process. If all this was released into the atmosphere, the impact on climate change would be huge. In total there is about 1,500 billion tons of carbon locked up in the permafrost—almost double the amount of carbon in the atmosphere right now.

Researchers used measurements from 11 thermokarst lakes and computer models to show that abrupt thawing will result in more than double previous estimates of the warming from the thawing permafrost. They found methane bubbling at 72 locations within these lakes, measuring the amount of gas being released by the permafrost beneath the water. They then compared the release to that seen at normal Arctic lakes, where gradual permafrost thaw is taking place.

Findings showed the abrupt thawing at the thermokarst lakes was significant in terms of methane release—and the researchers noted that this source of greenhouse gases was not accounted for properly in the climate change scenarios set out by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

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Apr 3, 1999 - May 3, 2020