GOPers investigating GOPers and the fake news that the dims are doing it. Cambridge Analytica has done Putin's bidding very well. Good job RT and NKGB.

Interesting report

Unfortunately the "swamp" says 9.

In November Texas voters could tell the two "battle buddies" that Washington isn't big enough for the two of them. In fact, the two Texans could learn that there's no place in Washington for either of them.

If this raid on Cohen was instigated by Mueller, then he has orchestrated it brilliantly. He's got the Deputy AG to hand it over to the Southern District of New York, where Trump publicly fired the former U.S. attorney, Preet Bharara and put in his own man, have now expanded it to cover the ex-Playboy model Karen McDougal case as well.

Firing Mueller will not help here.

interesting. one has to wonder how Clyde knows she has clients.

She had one we know of :-D

Then you have just accused POTUS of a crime.

If another Dimocrat ever gets elected President again, he/she will be hamstrung, drawn and quartered and spend 24/7/365 defending BS investigations and allegations. The Dims have opened Pandora's box and the raid on Cohen's office, home, and hotel room, confiscating privileged attorney client communications is nothing less than an open declaration of war against Trump and everyone that supports his policies.

This will not go unanswered. I would suggest that appointment of another 'special prosecutor' is not out of the question. Given the same open ended mandate and budget that Mueller has but focused on the DOJ, FBI, Dim National Organization, the Clintons and where ever else it may lead. Squeeze some Dims and see how many 'lie' to investigators and charge them with same BS charges as Flynn and the other targets of Mueller.

IMHO the concept of 'blind justice' in America is dead. It's now every man/woman for themselves. We are about to become(if not already are) totally paralyzed by fear of the 'deep police state' and the gestapo that invaded Cohen's life.

The IG report on FBI mismanagement and the bias of the DOJ could be the Rubicon that spurs a house cleaning in both agencies. I can only hope, but I'm not counting on anything changing much as the sheep have been thoroughly brain laundered.

Yes,

I read a very interesting op-ed by Alan M. Dershowitz earlier today...

Now, to preface this in case you don't know, Dershowitz is a Democrat, and a H. Clinton supporter... AND a Professor Emeritus at Harvard Law School.

Dershowitz: Targeting Trump's lawyer should worry us all

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Civil libertarians should be concerned whenever the government interferes with the lawyer-client relationship. Clients should be able to rely on confidentiality when they disclose their most intimate secrets in an effort to secure their legal rights. A highly publicized raid on the president’s lawyer will surely shake the confidence of many clients in promises of confidentiality by their lawyers. They will not necessarily understand the nuances of the confidentiality rules and their exceptions. They will see a lawyer’s office being raided and all his files seized.

I believe we would have been hearing more from civil libertarians — the American Civil Liberties Union, attorney groups and privacy advocates — if the raid had been on Hillary Clinton’s lawyer. Many civil libertarians have remained silent about potential violations of President Trump’s rights because they strongly disapprove of him and his policies. That is a serious mistake, because these violations establish precedents that lie around like loaded guns capable of being aimed at other targets.

I have been widely attacked for defending the constitutional rights of a president I voted against. In our hyperpartisan age, everyone is expected to choose a side, either for or against Trump. But the essence of civil liberties is that they must be equally applicable to all. The silence among most civil libertarians regarding the recent raid shows that we are losing that valuable neutrality.

What else does the raid tell us? It seems likely that special counsel Robert Mueller is bifurcating the investigation: He will keep control over matters relating to Russia, the campaign and any possible obstruction. But he has handed over to the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York any matters relating to Trump’s personal and business affairs. Mueller will work hand in hand with the New York prosecutors, but they will be in charge of the other matters. If they manage to find prosecutable evidence against Trump’s lawyer, they may try to squeeze him into cooperating against his client.

It is doubtful that Cohen would cooperate, even if he has anything on his client. But prosecutors often try to get lawyers to “sing” against their clients — to become “canaries” — in order to save their own feathers. Some flipped witnesses will tell prosecutors anything they want to hear in order to earn a “get out of jail free card.” They know that the “better” their story, the more leniency they will earn. So, in addition to singing, they “compose” by making up incriminating details.

I have seen this on many occasions. Mueller has already apparently flipped several witnesses, but Cohen would be his biggest catch in the unlikely event he could be induced to turn against his client. So, stay tuned to this unfolding drama, but remember that prosecutorial tactics used today against President Trump may tomorrow be used against Democrats — and even against you.

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/382459-dershowitz-targeting-trumps-lawyer-should-worry-us-all

I agree with Dershowitz. I am by no means a Trump supporter, but the actions spurred on by the Never-Trumpers (of both parties, and then some) and others are a danger to our civil liberties.

Constitutionally, the power to investigate, impeach (indict), and try/convict/remove from office/bar from future Government service any elected or appointed Federal Government official belongs to Congress. How can someone working for the DOJ (Mueller) investigate his bosses BOSS? Let Congress do it and actually earn some of the pay we taxpayers pay them for doing their phony-baloney jobs.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

How can someone working for the DOJ (Mueller) investigate his bosses BOSS? Let Congress do it and actually earn some of the pay we taxpayers pay them for doing their phony-baloney jobs.

I also believe in the Easter Bunny.

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How can someone working for the DOJ (Mueller) investigate his bosses BOSS?

Isn't that what the internal affairs department of every police or sheriff's department does? Isn't that what the various military branches do?

Congress, in its present dysfunctional state is likely less able to investigate anything than when Joe McCarthy was running the House UN-American activities committee.

Of course if you want independent, have MI6 investigate it.

But we know a crime has been committed.
An Attorney may not act without the clients permission. That is covered in Client - Attorney privilege 101.

If Cohen was acting as a fixer then no privilege can be attached.

Trump has said publicly that he didn't know about Cohens non-disclosure agreement with Daniels and that he didn't pay the $130,000.
And Cohen has said, he arranged the $130,000 payment to Daniels and that Trump was unaware of it.

If nothing else comes out about this raid, Cohen will probably be dis-barred in New York.

Deep State

You're dancing to the Cambridge Analytica tune.

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Yes, the real problem and your unwitting(?) support of Cambridge Analytical and its ilk

I also believe in the Easter Bunny, you believe in the deep state.
Which is worse, your ruling class or your deep state?

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As to Mr. Dershowitz, I'm not sure that I read the issue the same. Never before in history have we had a POTUS that is so dirty, including Nixon. A POTUS that has surrounded himself with mob style enforcers all his life. Some of these enforcers happen to have law degrees. Normally people with law degrees refuse to have anything to do with being a mob style enforcer because they learned some ethics and value their license to practice more than a single hit job. However criminal scum are everywhere.

But if anyone conspires with another to commit a crime there is no privilege. If it was Al Capone and his lawyer conspiried to bribe a local official to move booze, there would be no hue and cry over a raid on the lawyer. It would be expected.

No the issue here is how filthy and dirty Rump is and that someone so filthy and dirty could be elected. Mr. Dershowitz should be railing against all the people who heard the warnings on Rump, but chose to bury their nose in his excrement and vote for him. They are the ones who bear the blame. Even now they still stick up for him. Disgusting. And it isn't about who he goes to bed with, it is about how he operates. The filthy scummy methods he uses to bully his way into people's wallets. These enablers gave him the keys to Ft. Knox. What damn fools they are. How horribly they have hurt America.

Now they are getting the lesson in what they elected. Now they can't rationalize. Now Putin's NKGB propaganda people have lost control of the spin. (Why do you think Putin used gas in Syria? -- to divert from Rump's issues)

No I'm not worried about what concerns Mr. Dershowitz. Once I heard the details it became a foregone conclusion it would happen. (I also previously said Rump's lawyers aren't as smart as Billery's and that is pretty damn obvious now.) I don't think Rump knows how to have competent people in his employ. He wants autonomous yes men. However in any case I seriously doubt the USA will elect such a dirty filthy criminal again.

For the rest of you, if you ever need a mouthpiece, you need to sit down with them and go over how you talk to them so they can stay independent and your conversations can be privileged. There is a way and you must do it.




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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Yep

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If he doesn't have anything to hide then why is he trying so hard to stop this investigation? :-D

Cheers.

No the issue here is how filthy and dirty Rump is and that someone so filthy and dirty could be elected. ............The filthy scummy methods he uses to bully his way into people's wallets.
(I also previously said Rump's lawyers aren't as smart as Billery's and that is pretty damn obvious now.) I

Glad you brought up HillLiary and Bubba.........perfect examples of corruption, theft, abuse of power, sexual predation and most recently too stupid to win a rigged election(unlike Putin who can actually win a rigged election),

It ain't that Bubba and Dumbo have better lawyers, it's because they have bought or intimidated the DOJ and FBI.

Old American West Cattle Baron adage: "You won't go to jail if you own the Sheriff, the Judge and the Mayor......."

Minorities have been screaming for years that there is no Justice for them in America..........I now firmly believe they are correct. Except the Minority includes anyone who's not a Dim Clinton.

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JE you do realise that before the raid could happen the process has to be pass through several stages. Each one of these stages in this case was signed off by a Trump appointeee who have been convinced there is a criminal case to answer.

Get over it, Cohen, just like his client are criminals.

https://globalexchange.org/campaigns/corporatecriminals2017/

edit] Breaking news House Speaker Paul Ryan will not seek reelection

Apparently this ad was aired during the Fox and Friends program this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=e0AUus59QhE

and another from same group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=-JMZ2Ghz8nU

If this continues, investigations will the least of your problems.

The spark that ignites WWIII?

Warming up...

...getting hotter

If this continues, investigations will the least of your problems.

The spark that ignites WWIII?

Warming up...

...getting hotter

Those two stories came out the other way round, the Russian warning was early this morning UK time.

Yep, the GOP base is finally becoming disgusted with the Neo-Nazi Rumpers.

Those commercials are just the first step down the path to conviction in the Senate.

Soooooo.........

if the US does not launch against Syria, is Trump bowing to Putin?

if the US does launch against Syria, is Trump a War Monger? And who WILL end the chemical attacks in Syria.......Putin? The Ayatollah? Iron Man and the Avengers?

What about the missile attack on Riyad this AM?

I say, take out Assad's personal compound, his supporters compounds, all Military assets and inform the Rooshins that anything flying above Syria will be destroyed. And then do so.

Once again, the only argument bullies understand is a bloody nose, so give them all one including Putin who cannot deliver on his promise of shoot down.

You can bet the UN will be UNwilling to intervene for the choking and dying children, they will as usual sit on their overstuffed apathies and pontificate endlessly about who will bell the cat. A more corrupt, useless and gutless organization than the US Congress.

The GOP base, and The People et. al. are disgusted with both sides of politics......and there will be no conviction or impeachment of anyone except possibly heads of the FBI and DOJ (and possibly some Judges)when the IG report comes in.

[edit] It also appears the US will be joined by France and probably Britain in any attack. Will Putin actually attack warships of all three nations? Putin's ass is now on the line so stay tuned![/edit]

Since the only thing that seems to unify America is a War...................let's have one.

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