Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap

Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 121 · 122 · 123 · 124 · 125 · 126 · 127 . . . 419 · Next

AuthorMessage
moomin
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 17
Posts: 6204
Credit: 38,420
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1938780 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 0:40:48 UTC - in response to Message 1938777.  

We will have to agree to disagree about this particular problem.
Of course:)
There are not many Americans who know anything about European countries and their relations to other countries.
For a starter most Americans think that the EU is a country:)
ID: 1938780 · Report as offensive
Profile JaundicedEye
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Mar 12
Posts: 5375
Credit: 30,870,693
RAC: 1
United States
Message 1938783 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 1:29:31 UTC

There are not many Americans who know anything about European countries and their relations to other countries.
For a starter most Americans think that the EU is a country:)
Let's see........central Government authority in Brussels.
..............A shared currency among members.

............Trade agreements negotiated with other countries as a block.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...........

As to the difference between your outlook on the world economy and The People of the US is summed up by your previous statement.
We however know that we never will get those jobs back.
We, however, believe we can or replace them with other better jobs if the playing field is level.

False Belief..........The Trump administration doesn't consider Canada or Japan or Mexico or the EU for that matter as threats to national security as has been widely spread by Fake News. The threat to national security is the loss of the ability to produce or source EVERYTHING DOMESTICALLY that would be needed in a time of crisis be it war or natural disaster.

Relying on artificially cheap foreign steel and aluminum has caused the domestic steel and aluminum industries to atrophy. Most don't realize that starting a modern foundry furnace alone can take up to 4 months or longer not to mention assembling and retraining the workforce and gathering the support technology.

By labeling the reason national security Trump was allowed under the law to investigate 'dumping' and other unfair practices and institute tariffs countering those in effect crippling American trade with those countries.

Don't tax us, we won't tax you. Really simple.

I thought Trump's tweeted example today was very well put. I had no idea there was a 270% tariff on unfiltered Milk from America going to Canada. How is that Fair Trade?

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
ID: 1938783 · Report as offensive
Profile Mr. Kevvy Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 15 May 99
Posts: 3776
Credit: 1,114,826,392
RAC: 3,319
Canada
Message 1938787 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 1:42:50 UTC - in response to Message 1938783.  

I had no idea there was a 270% tariff on unfiltered Milk from America going to Canada. How is that Fair Trade?


Eggs, poultry and dairy are notorious in Canada for their "marketing boards" that have been price-fixing and lobbying for very high tariffs since, well, longer than I can remember. Since the 1950s at least. I stopped buying milk because of the ridiculous pricing (just buy powdered and make a little as required.) A 1L carton costs $2.99, but 2L $3.99, and 4L in bags $5.29? They are basically forcing overbuying so they don't have an oversupply which might force the price down. One of many controls they have on the market.
ID: 1938787 · Report as offensive
Profile betreger Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 11361
Credit: 29,581,041
RAC: 66
United States
Message 1938791 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 2:11:47 UTC - in response to Message 1938788.  
Last modified: 9 Jun 2018, 2:12:09 UTC

Canada First?

Yep Canada is a threat to our national security, after all the white house was burned down during the war of 1812.
ID: 1938791 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19070
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1938796 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 3:05:56 UTC - in response to Message 1938783.  

Because US dairy farmers are so heavily subsidised, 73% of their income is from subsidies.

If you want a level playing field get rid of your agricultural subsidises. (That also applies to the EU CAP, just to show I am not just anti-US policy)
ID: 1938796 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19070
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1938799 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 3:30:42 UTC - in response to Message 1938754.  

Way overblown rhetoric..........

Bootblacks cried, there will be no jobs for us......

Chimney Sweeps cried, where will we work........

Textile workers feared the automated loom would put them out of work............

All were correct, they were displaced, and new industries were started......muleskinners are now truck drivers.

Chimney sweeps are HVAC techs.

History teaches when 'one door closes, another opens'.

It also teaches 'Adapt or Die'.

And I thought you were a Trump supporter. Doesn't he want to restore the old US industries like coal mining etc. and not invest in the STEM subjects so that the US can again lead the world in new technologies and the associated jobs.
ID: 1938799 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 30661
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1938805 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 4:52:59 UTC - in response to Message 1938799.  

Way overblown rhetoric..........

Bootblacks cried, there will be no jobs for us......

Chimney Sweeps cried, where will we work........

Textile workers feared the automated loom would put them out of work............

All were correct, they were displaced, and new industries were started......muleskinners are now truck drivers.

Chimney sweeps are HVAC techs.

History teaches when 'one door closes, another opens'.

It also teaches 'Adapt or Die'.

And I thought you were a Trump supporter. Doesn't he want to restore the old US industries like coal mining etc. and not invest in the STEM subjects so that the US can again lead the world in new technologies and the associated jobs.

That is absolutely correct. Rump doesn't believe in science, especially climate science, or NASA science. Everything we need to know is written in the good book. 1940 here we come when the KKK ruled the land and life was easy because you didn't have to think for yourself.
ID: 1938805 · Report as offensive
moomin
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 17
Posts: 6204
Credit: 38,420
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1938815 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 8:42:41 UTC - in response to Message 1938783.  
Last modified: 9 Jun 2018, 9:06:19 UTC

There are not many Americans who know anything about European countries and their relations to other countries.
For a starter most Americans think that the EU is a country:)
Let's see........central Government authority in Brussels.
..............A shared currency among members.
............Trade agreements negotiated with other countries as a block.
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...........
central Government authority in Brussels?
Yes. And 28 Governments in each member state.
There are also disagreements between EU and member states that sometimes doesn't follow EU directives.
A shared currency among members?
I have not even seen an Euro or a Cent:) Only Swedish Krona:)
The eurozone, officially called the euro area,[7] is a monetary union of 19 of the 28 European Union (EU) member states which have adopted the euro (€) as their common currency and sole legal tender.

Trade agreements negotiated with other countries as a block?
Of course. The EU is above all a Trade Union.
That and food and health issues and free movement which are governed by the EU Parlaiment.
Taxes, medical care, schools, military, police, pensions and child support are however governed by each of the 28 member states.
EU explained.
https://eu.riksdagen.se/global/other-languages/english/#


Sweden's central government budget is approx. SEK 900 billion.
Sweden's contribution to the EU is approx. SEK 30-40 billion of the central government budget.
Sweden gets back approx. SEK 10-13 billion in the form of various kinds of support from the EU.
ID: 1938815 · Report as offensive
Profile JaundicedEye
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Mar 12
Posts: 5375
Credit: 30,870,693
RAC: 1
United States
Message 1938824 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 12:19:07 UTC

and not invest in the STEM subjects so that the US can again lead the world in new technologies and the associated jobs.
I don't know who 'poured' that in you ear..........where EXACTLY has the Trump administration 'not invested' in STEM.

Hot Air, deflection and Fake News as usual.

@moomim The US has 50 State Governments, who disagree from time to time, share a common currency(currently the accepted form of currency for world trade), and every other point you listed are the same.

So why shouldn't the EU be considered a 'country'? There is no fundamental difference between the two examples.
.................Except the EU cannot protect itself from aggression and relies on NATO(US) for defense.

Now THAT'S a fundamental difference.

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
ID: 1938824 · Report as offensive
moomin
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 17
Posts: 6204
Credit: 38,420
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1938829 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 13:08:09 UTC - in response to Message 1938824.  
Last modified: 9 Jun 2018, 13:28:42 UTC

@moomim The US has 50 State Governments, who disagree from time to time, share a common currency(currently the accepted form of currency for world trade), and every other point you listed are the same.
So why shouldn't the EU be considered a 'country'? There is no fundamental difference between the two examples.
.................Except the EU cannot protect itself from aggression and relies on NATO(US) for defense.
Now THAT'S a fundamental difference.
The US doesn't have 50 presidents, you have only one.
The EU countries (plural) has 28 presidents/prime ministers.
The EU is mostly a trade union and NOT a federal state.
The 50 US states are all members of NATO.
22 of the EU member states are members of NATO.
6 of them are not. Like Sweden and Finland.

The US has only one offical language.
The official languages of the EU include 24 languages with recognized status within the European Union. These languages are Bulgarian, Danish, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, Greek, Irish, Italian, Croatian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, Swedish, Czech, German and Hungarian.
The multilingualism of the Union costs just over one billion euros a year, which accounts for around 1 percent of all expenditure in the annual budget.

The US has only one currency.
The EU has 10 different currencies.
Euro in 18 countries (EUR)
Bulgarian lev (BGN)
Danish krona (DKK)
Croatian kuna (HRK)
Polish złoty (PLN)
Romanian leu (RON)
Brittish pund (GBP)
Swedish krona (SEK)
Czech koruna (CZK)
Hungarian forint  (HUF)

The US have only one Head of State.
In the EU some of the 28 countries Head of States are monarchs, some are presidents.

Then Europe also have the Schengen Area...
https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/schengen_en

Do you still think that the EU is a country?
ID: 1938829 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19070
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1938830 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 13:09:34 UTC - in response to Message 1938824.  

Does one have to look further that the EPA.
Or conditions on funding that are opposed by the various bodies. NASA being one, Trump will allocate funding for manned missions to the moon and Mars, which NASA doesn't consider necessary at this stage, but not for missions already in operation or being built.
ID: 1938830 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24879
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1938836 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 14:00:55 UTC

Hollywood is remaking Thunderbirds - with strings attached.

The Hood - Kim Jong-un
Kyrano - Moon Jae-in
Brains - Xi Jinping
Gordon - Donald Trump

Thunderbirds are Go
ID: 1938836 · Report as offensive
moomin
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 17
Posts: 6204
Credit: 38,420
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1938838 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 15:04:13 UTC - in response to Message 1938836.  

ID: 1938838 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 30661
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1938839 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 15:09:11 UTC - in response to Message 1938829.  

The US has only one offical language.

It has none.
ID: 1938839 · Report as offensive
moomin
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 17
Posts: 6204
Credit: 38,420
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1938840 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 15:40:13 UTC - in response to Message 1938839.  
Last modified: 9 Jun 2018, 15:51:21 UTC

The US has only one offical language.

It has none.
I stand corrected:)
Only 31 US states have made English the official language.
https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/what-is-the-united-states-official-language
Anyway all people in the US understand English that is de facto an official language.
In the EU it's very different. There is no common langauge.
I have met many from Germany and France that doesn't know English at all for instance.
Very strange because most of the other EU countries does.
ID: 1938840 · Report as offensive
Profile Wiggo
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Jan 00
Posts: 34826
Credit: 261,360,520
RAC: 489
Australia
Message 1938855 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 21:59:12 UTC

ID: 1938855 · Report as offensive
Profile Stargate (SA)
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 4 Mar 10
Posts: 1854
Credit: 2,258,721
RAC: 0
Australia
Message 1938859 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 22:18:43 UTC

+1
ID: 1938859 · Report as offensive
Profile betreger Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 11361
Credit: 29,581,041
RAC: 66
United States
Message 1938863 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 22:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 1938855.  
Last modified: 9 Jun 2018, 22:28:40 UTC

He speaks to the idiocracy and it listens.
ID: 1938863 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 30661
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1938864 - Posted: 9 Jun 2018, 22:30:31 UTC

+1

PT Barnum said it is possible to fool some people all the time.
ID: 1938864 · Report as offensive
Profile betreger Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 11361
Credit: 29,581,041
RAC: 66
United States
Message 1938879 - Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 0:49:34 UTC - in response to Message 1938876.  

You did not cite the evil Castro regeim in Cuba therefore by the logic you have previously posted you must endorse them. Jeeze at least be logically consistent.
ID: 1938879 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 . . . 121 · 122 · 123 · 124 · 125 · 126 · 127 . . . 419 · Next

Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.