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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I doubt you will be able to get a new cover. They are usually not sold separately. However, you should be able to get 'blank' covers to fill any spots no longer occupied by a circuit breaker. Meow. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66295 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
$40.64 in 4 Eaton BR breakers, three 15A and one dual ganged 50A. That and take the screw to the Home Depot and the panel faceplate, though the screw I might find something, the panel, maybe, maybe not. Dual 15A, single pole. 50A, Double Pole. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66295 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Yeah, no doubt, finding a slater part now, would be a wild goose chase, but I did find a Garvin Universal Non Slip Circuit Breaker Filler. I'll get 4, they're $1.49ea w/tax. And for 4 breakers that I mentioned and 4 filler covers, plus 6 screws, the total rises to $50.15. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66295 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Eaton makes an indoor breaker box, it looks almost like mine, except it does not have the top center position, and is an indoor sub panel. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66295 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Now switching to Hernia's, I have 2, one is My left ribs, the other is this type: 70-90% survival rate, ok. I must be beating the odds. https://www.healthline.com/health/diaphragmatic-hernia#prevention7 Yuck... Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66295 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
The TV Stand will be here Friday by FedEx. And the TV is being delivered by Pilot Freight on Monday Noon-5:00pm. I just hope that both are intact upon delivery, but I'll see. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 30572 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
Home depot has one exactly like yours, including the main breaker for $71. But you don't need it. Just get the filler plates to cover the extra holes. A 3 pack is $3.98 and the screws #10-32 x 3/4 in. Phillips-Slotted Pan-Head Machine Screws $1.18 for a 4 pack. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66295 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Home depot has one exactly like yours, including the main breaker for $71. But you don't need it. Just get the filler plates to cover the extra holes. A 3 pack is $3.98 and the screws #10-32 x 3/4 in. Phillips-Slotted Pan-Head Machine Screws $1.18 for a 4 pack. It's similar, but not exactly the same, in any case I figured out if I bought the following, I'd not need any filler plates: 5-15A Dual-SP(BD-1520), 1-15A Single-SP(BR-115/ac), 1-50A dual ganged DP breaker Eaton BR type(BR-235), and screws. Now Dual just means two breakers in one, and single is just that, both have the same width, I'd thought the BR115 would do for the window ac here, the others would replace all but the two 20A breakers, and I'd have two new 15A breakers/circuits. If that is possible electrically, and I don't know that it is or not, the 100A main breaker is as large as I can go here, plus I can't move My place to its own land in CA, even if I had the money, since My unit was made into a park only model by the State Legislature a few years back, and it's too old for any other park, so here it stays, and I'm not rich enough to buy the park, not even close... I added up all the amps in the breakers that I do have, and that's 180A total, and that does not include the 100A main breaker. Except for the 20A breakers which have 12/3 wiring, the rest of the place has 14/3 wiring, though the furnace might be different, since that is a 50A breaker, new or old. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66295 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Home depot has one exactly like yours, including the main breaker for $71. But you don't need it. Just get the filler plates to cover the extra holes. A 3 pack is $3.98 and the screws #10-32 x 3/4 in. Phillips-Slotted Pan-Head Machine Screws $1.18 for a 4 pack. Oh and I like that 4 pack, thanks Carlos. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
In the UK on older houses we use the incoming gas or water pipes as earthing points Sounds a little dangerous to connect a ground wire to a gas pipe. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
When I upgraded my main service box from the original 100A to a 200A, I drove in 3 8-foot ground rods for the best earth ground I could get. Standard practice is also to connect a ground to the water main. And then the earth ground is bonded to the neutral bus bars in the service box as well. So in practice, the outlets have both a grounded neutral and the safety earth ground connection on the ground pin. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22506 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
It was - and has been banned for new, or revised, installations for a good number of years. The situation is being made "different" with the increasing use of plastic pipes for water & gas supply. As one can imagine it's great "fun" when they decide to replace damaged pipes - I'm just waiting for them to replace my front drive & garage floor after that was dug up to replace my neighbour's gas feed pipe after his builder managed to put the back-hoe spade onto the pipe. (I was out of the country at the time so didn't have to evacuate, but do have to put up with the mess until they find the right shaped Tuit - apparently round ones are in short supply) Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
In the UK on older houses we use the incoming gas or water pipes as earthing points Indeed. It's also illegal. http://www.ecmweb.com/code-basics/gas-pipe-grounding-legal |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19372 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
To put an earth spike into the ground so close to a wall is not a good idea. On the "wrong side" of the building it can be very dry. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
To put an earth spike into the ground so close to a wall is not a good idea. On the "wrong side" of the building it can be very dry. Mine were driven in about 10 feet out from the foundation, about 3 feet apart. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66295 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
In the UK on older houses we use the incoming gas or water pipes as earthing points And even if I could, I can't, why? Flexible hookups for water and gas, cause of earthquakes, I even have a $1500(in 2006) earthquake resistant foundation system, the county wanted this put in, I've had 2 quakes since then, one going roughly n-s and another going roughly e-w, the $1500 paid for itself, no damage here. They're on the beefy side compared to what is under other places here, plus they are screwed into the ground-treated wood/concrete. Yeah the tires are still down there, not that I could use them in CA... Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
The earthing arrangements in the USA really confuse me! In the UK on older houses we use the incoming gas or water pipes as earthing points, the more modern houses and flats with plastic services use a separate earth spike. Earthing (UK) and grounding (US) are the same thing. The only return UK have is through the moist earth/dirt/soil. In US we have a neutral hard wire that is connected to earth/dirt/soil and back to the distribution system's common neutral/ground. Earth/dirt/soil/grounded/bonding/neutral are all at the same potential because of the hard wire inter connection. The US is hard wired to system neutral/ground. UK relies on a good galvanic response from moist earth/dirt/soil for the return. US prefers wire, UK uses moist earth/dirt/soil. It took three ground rods to get a good ground at Kittyman's. Multiple layers of safety. If system neutral opens there is still a return path through moist dirt and vise verse earthing fails there is still a hard wire return. Some areas of US only need one rod (my wet Washington State), other require several (dry climate). Lifting a UK un-bond wire off a gas line can cause an electrical spark/arc/electrocution, why UK has warning signs on ground bondings. The US doesn't have or need warnings on bonding wires. Electrical distribution systems in the US are mostly a three/four (single phase/three phase) wire Open/Closed Wye circuit, where UK uses two/three (single phase/three phase) wire Open/Closed Delta circuit . The US depends on a hard wire for return where UK depends on moist earth/dirt for return. As a forty year electrical worker (IBEW 483, working batteries to 500KV hot) I prefer hard wire over moist dirt galvanic responses any day. I remember the phone system from the 60s in UK. Same principle, UK moist dirt/earth for return vs. US's hard wire return. ... |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66295 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
The earthing arrangements in the USA really confuse me! In the UK on older houses we use the incoming gas or water pipes as earthing points, the more modern houses and flats with plastic services use a separate earth spike. Here the "soil" is Caliche, it doesn't drain too well, so it's moist below the top 1" of "soil", so I have 1 rod in the soil too. The "soil" here is so bad, that most plants drown in it. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Here we have the electrician proverb. Unless we earth, the priest will earth you. or perhaps Unless we ground, the priest will ground you. |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
OT: Caliche In Eastern Washington we had to use drills and dynamite to make holes for power poles in that stuff. Only thing harder is rock. Har... ... |
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