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Message 1897045 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 6:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 1897044.  

Mine has battery backup which we change with smoke alarm batteries once a year.
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Message 1897047 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 6:24:54 UTC - in response to Message 1897045.  

Mine has battery backup which we change with smoke alarm batteries once a year.

Ok I will agree with that.
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Message 1897048 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 6:41:21 UTC - in response to Message 1897047.  

Both my carbon monoxide & smoke detectors are mains powered with battery back ups. I also replace batteries once a year.

As CO2 detectors have been mentioned, I can't see the need for those in residential homes, businesses that require them yes.
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Message 1897055 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 6:55:50 UTC - in response to Message 1897053.  

May just have been a typo.

CO = Carbon MON-oxide
CO2 = Carbon DI-oxide

CO2 is what we breath out.

wasn't a typo, just being stupid. Hey it wont be the first time.
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Message 1897057 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 6:57:29 UTC - in response to Message 1897053.  

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Message 1897058 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 6:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 1897055.  

May just have been a typo.

CO = Carbon MON-oxide
CO2 = Carbon DI-oxide

CO2 is what we breath out.

wasn't a typo, just being stupid. Hey it wont be the first time.
Really? It's obvious to a blind man it wasn't a typo nor something stupid. I'm safely assuming that the poster got that mixed up while looking into his kiddie CO detector.
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Message 1897059 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 7:01:08 UTC - in response to Message 1897058.  
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well yes I do have a kidde.
I do know the difference between CO2 and CO . Both will kill. CO is more insidious . I still don't like CO2 fire extinguishers.
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Message 1897062 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 7:16:50 UTC - in response to Message 1897059.  

Sorry James. Didn't mean any offence, just felt your comment a tad OTT. In all the time I've posted to these boards, I haven't known Mr Mercer to make a stupid comment.
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Message 1897068 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 8:55:57 UTC

CO2 extinguishers are effective at "knocking down" fires, but do not cool the "fuel". This is OK when used on liquids, but not very good when trying to extinguish solids such as we typically have in house fires. The reason it is used in computer rooms is that it doesn't cause secondary damage, unlike water, foam, or power - if you've ever seen the mess from a powder extinguisher you'd understand.
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Message 1897114 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:13:25 UTC - in response to Message 1897062.  

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Message 1897124 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 17:30:52 UTC

I have no doubt that some would say you wold be a "first time buyer", and some would say not.

But you OWN your home, thus you are a "home owner", so you are in a slightly vague area of US home/land law - it would appear, from the link you have provided you MAY be a property owner, or may not be a property owner. To resolve this you need to take proper legal advice on YOUR situation, not rely on some generalities from the web.

Your link goes to a Bling search page, and the first couple of links state (and I paraphrase) "Property is something you own", or more specifically in the case of the Miriam-Webster (online) dictionary (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/property):
Definition of property
plural properties
1 a :a quality or trait belonging and especially peculiar to an individual or thing
b :an effect that an object has on another object or on the senses
c :virtue 2
d :an attribute common to all members of a class
2 a :something owned or possessed; specifically :a piece of real estate
b :the exclusive right to possess, enjoy, and dispose of a thing :ownership
c :something to which a person or business has a legal title
d :one (such as a performer) who is under contract and whose work is especially valuable
e :a book or script purchased for publication or production
3 :an article or object used in a play or motion picture except painted scenery and costumes

or the Free online dictionary (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/property)
property
Also found in: Thesaurus, Medical, Legal, Financial, Acronyms, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
Related to property: property tax, property room
prop·er·ty (prŏp′ər-tē)
n. pl. prop·er·ties
1.
a. Something owned; a possession.
b. A piece of real estate: has a swimming pool on the property.
c. Something tangible or intangible to which its owner has legal title: properties such as copyrights and trademarks.
d. Something tangible or intangible, such as a claim or a right, in which a person has a legally cognizable, compensable interest.
e. Possessions considered as a group: moved with all his property.
2. A theatrical prop.
3. An attribute, characteristic, or quality: a compound with anti-inflammatory properties. See Synonyms at quality.

Neither demonstrates the linkage that you lay out between "ownership of the land" and "ownership of something on that land" that you claim. Indeed the second definition implies that you, as one who pays "property tax" (to the State, or local authority) you are a property owner, even though you are not a land owner.
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Message 1897125 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 17:45:01 UTC

Well, all that really matters is how the state of California rules on the subject when they are processing an application for the program.

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Message 1897134 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 18:41:42 UTC - in response to Message 1897127.  

English "common law" has no bearing on the ownership or legal status of any land or buildings. What i critical in UK civil and property law is how the title for the land, or building (including any temporary or mobile structure) is framed.
And has nothing to do with how the State of California will decide who is, or isn't property owner in connection with SB2 or SB3, or any other State law regarding ownership, or tenure of either land or building fixed, mobile or temporary. You will need to get PROPER legal advice when the possible legislation comes into force after November next year.
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Message 1897192 - Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 23:58:01 UTC - in response to Message 1897125.  

Well, all that really matters is how the state of California rules on the subject when they are processing an application for the program.

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Message 1897238 - Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 5:00:35 UTC

The first Question seems vague to Me: Have you owned and occupied a home in the last 3 years? Yes or No...


You think that is not a clear question. It is VERY clear. But since you are having difficulty in understanding such a simple question then I will expand it somewhat:
If you have owned a home, irrespective of it being a "manufactured", "stick built", or "cave", or the ownership of the land upon which it sits, for more than 3 years then you have to answer YES, otherwise the answer is "NO".
In your case you are always proclaiming that you own your home and have done so for more than 3 years, thus, in relation to this form you are a "home owner of more than 3 years standing".
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Message 1897242 - Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 5:21:55 UTC

I would suggest that CA deals with homes, as well as real estate given the number of sites like your that abound in the state, further there are quite a number of "stick built" places that are on land not owned by the building owner.
I would suggest that it is YOU that is trying to make it more complex than it really is.
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Message 1897244 - Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 5:28:43 UTC - in response to Message 1897236.  

Vic, the card companies are after YOUR money, plain and simple. They have found that if they increase the card limits on your cards you use that credit, so pay them more in interest. They haven't given you any money, they have given you the ability to increase the amount you owe them.
A little challenge for you -sit down one day with your last twelve month's credit card statements and add up all the interest you have paid in that time. Now compare that amount with your monthly food bill. If your twelve months credit card interest is greater than your monthly food bill you are in a very poor financial state, caused by the over -use of credit cards.
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Message 1897250 - Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 6:50:48 UTC

Vic - You are falling into their trap. I've been there. And have escaped the trap by the skin of my teeth and I don't want to read that the card companies have decided, for their own ends, to suddenly cut off your cards and demand full payment within thirty days as happened to me (and I'd been paying off the minimum every month).
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Message 1897349 - Posted: 25 Oct 2017, 9:08:33 UTC

You said that you were in the army and had an honourable discharge, so isn't there an army pension somewhere? That would be based on length of service, so how many years did you serve in the army?

I doubt that Vic did the 20 or so years needed to get a military pension - much the same as our "short service" people (3 or 5 years) get virtually nothing, but do more than the threshold service and the pension starts to become a very useful amount.
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