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Message 1896784 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 4:45:25 UTC

The LA Dodgers vs the Houston Astros in the World Series

https://www.bing.com/search?q=la+dodgers&qs=HS&pq=la+dodg&sc=8-7&cvid=FEB9D5FEF0DE435E830325D213F58834&FORM=QBLH&sp=2

And of course the 1st game is on Oct 24th on FOX, and My TV will be out until sometime in November 2017...
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Message 1896787 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 5:20:20 UTC

I'd need at least another $236.00 a month in income, which I'll get when I'm 62, I'm 57 now
How are you going to get another $263.00 dollars when you are 62?
My wife had to go on SSI when she was 53. She had no raise in benefits when she turned 62. When she turned 66 she went from SSI to getting social security with no raise either.
Her best friend worked under the table for most of her life and gets only $400 a month. You get what you worked for not anything more. Yeah, You get COLA but then they raise the part B deductible so what kind of raise is that?
You bitch and moan you don't have enough money to fix things, but you buy crap from E-bay. And then post you cant make ends meet. And in the next post your going to buy a freaking Mustang.
I really think you need to be in a VA hospital.
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Message 1896812 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 9:57:58 UTC

Moving on from the slanging match and back a bit (I've been traveling for most of the last 30 hours...)
The power consumption difference and the fact that the GTX1060 is a new card rather than a second hand one of unknown pedigree should convince you that it is worth waiting the extra time.

BTW - That Carbon Monoxide detector is in the wrong place. Carbon Monoxide is very slightly LESS dense than air so tends to accumulate high up in rooms. Down near the floor, by what looks like a vent in the floor, will give you ZERO warning of toxic levels, and in the event of a fault in one of your gas appliances that causes Carbon Monoxide to be produced you will have a room (or home) full of the gas, and be lying unconscious, or dead, on the floor long before the alarm goes off.
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Message 1896822 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 10:56:07 UTC
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When I suggested the 1060 I should have included the memory spec, Vic has chosen top of the range, 6gb version, for his price comparison.
If he were to go for the 1060 3gb version, it has a very slightly better performance than the 970 and only costs at NewEgg between $199 and $229.

So the price difference is actually only $10, not $110.
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Message 1896824 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 11:55:06 UTC - in response to Message 1896822.  
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When I suggested the 1060 I should have included the memory spec, Vic has chosen top of the range, 6gb version, for his price comparison.
If he were to go for the 1060 3gb version, it has a very slightly better performance than the 970 and only costs at NewEgg between $199 and $229.

So the price difference is actually only $10, not $110.

The only dual 970 or dual 6GB 1060 rigs that beat my 2 dual 3GB 1060 i5 rigs are either running Linux with Special Sauce or have many more CPU cores than my rigs do, now there's something to think about. Also I very rarely see them use 70% of their TDP (usually they're between 50-65% TDP). ;-)

[edit] just check the Top Host lists if you don't believe me.

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Message 1896841 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 14:09:16 UTC

But pascal (10xx) cores are "better" than any of their predecessors in terms of "bang per core" - a quick look at your computers shows that the one with the 980 is returning ~21k, while the one with the 1060 is doing ~19k, but with half the number of cores.
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Message 1896842 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 14:14:18 UTC - in response to Message 1896822.  

In Vic's defense - he may not have noticed that there are actually two different memories (and core counts) for the 1060, but just "hit the button" to follow to the first 1060 he saw.
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Message 1896846 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 14:28:46 UTC - in response to Message 1896797.  
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The main difference between Social Security Disability (SSD, or SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is the fact that SSD is available to workers who have accumulated a sufficient number of work credits, while SSI disability benefits are available to low-income individuals who have either never worked or who haven't earned enough work credits to qualify for SSD.

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Or who have missed the 10 year window for applying for SSDI benefits, yes I get Supplemental Security Income, the checks are smaller than ones from SSDI, the SSA said if I went back to work or at least tried, I could qualify for SSDI, I'd have to be licensed by the state, and pass the e-verify...

And then find a company who doesn't subscribe to Me being Black Balled(CCP, Wells Fargo), out here impossible... And I'm still too heavy.

The $236.00 is from Social Security retirement benefits, which I'll be eligible for in about 4.5 years. Which I did pay into, heck getting SSI I paid into that too, thru income taxes, since SSI comes from the main Federal budget, the same budget where SNAP comes from, which No SSI recipient in CA gets.

That $236.00 is 80% of what I would get if I were 70, at 70 that would be $295.00 a month, at least to start with, a COLA would make it rise, most complain the COLA is eaten away by Medicare, Me I'll just not apply for it, since I'll still have Medi-Cal(Medicaid outside of California).

All cause the State Legislature is too cowardly to stop the state policy known as Cash Out, this is where $10 is given to SSI recipients in lieu of SNAP/CalFresh benefits, this has been going on since 1974, since I'm in the program I do know about these little facts.

It would cost nothing or nearly nothing to add 1.3 Million SSI recipients to CalFresh thanks to computers, and to do what the USDA wants in order to get SNAP, but no, too cowardly, timid, and pathetic...

In California the average monthly SNAP/CalFresh benefit is $135.99, a friend of mine, who does not have a job or any prospects of getting one, cause people won't hire an ex-con, He gets $160.00 a month, He refuses to apply for SSI, would He qualify?

He's poor enough, but there is the little thing called Medical Evidence, this applies to both SSDI and to SSI, you have to be Disabled, otherwise you get nothing, period.
Yes I've been there, no I never hired any lawyer or attorney, I just kept going to the Doctor or to the ER, lots of things are wrong in My body, but being inside means one needs Xrays to see them, and to be a Medical Doctor, with a degree, and a license to practice Medicine, don't got that?

Then you aren't qualified, and practicing Medicine without a License is a Felony in California, same as impersonating a Police Officer of Deputy is...
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Message 1896854 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 14:58:18 UTC - in response to Message 1896823.  
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BTW - That Carbon Monoxide detector is in the wrong place. Carbon Monoxide is very slightly LESS dense than air so tends to accumulate high up in rooms. Down near the floor, by what looks like a vent in the floor, will give you ZERO warning of toxic levels, and in the event of a fault in one of your gas appliances that causes Carbon Monoxide to be produced you will have a room (or home) full of the gas, and be lying unconscious, or dead, on the floor long before the alarm goes off.
You are correct in it being in the wrong place, but that looks like a powered CO2 detector, not a battery powered one. Yes it should be high up in sleeping accommodation, or at horizontal height to the risk area. There is Advice here. Yes that looks like a floor vent for under-floor warm air heating? Is that what Vic's furnace provides? If so mounting a CO2 detector directly over it is just damn silly, you could get false triggers.

A Surge Protector, a Carbon Monoxide detector, the vacuum cleaner cord is plugged into the New Surge Protector, the outlet is now fixed. I had to dig up a 2" long screw too. A 2" long panhead screw was used to secure the surge protector to the old outlet, it's not perfect, but this does work, and now the CO detector does not fall off[ the outlet anymore.
This very worrying. Did Vic mean screw the surge protector to the wall socket, or screw a loose wall socket to the wall?

it's not perfect, but this does work
This sounds like a dangerous bodge job to me. And what is all that white stuff on the wall? I'd want a qualified electrician to test that if it was me.

What is all the white stuff on the wall, paint, an electrician would take one look at it, and say paint, then ignore it.

An outlet in My bedroom would be no higher than this.

The short machine screw that held the faceplate on was removed, and replaced with a 2" long 6-32 pan head machine screw, the original screw has a socket for this, the socket has it's own 2 screws to secure the electrical socket to the box(1 top, 1 bottom), the box is secured to the wall, either by nails or screws, like in the pic below, the screw is the center screw, see the hole in the center of the outlet?

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Message 1896856 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 15:10:49 UTC
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Oh and Carbon Monoxide is a Heavy Gas, that's what Bing says, so the Detector is in the right place.

Though this site has a better explanation.

So what is the most advantageous place to put a CO detector? CO moves with the air, so where the air is flowing it will go also. It is very unpredictable where the air, and therefore CO, will move at any given time. That is why the instructions with the unit you buy do not say to place it high or low on the wall.

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Message 1896866 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 16:01:34 UTC

Low on the wall WILL result in people being killed, it is positively DANGEROUS, so whoever is suggesting that is, at best IGNORANT.
Mr Jay Markanich should be prosecuted fro attempted murder, or if any of is clients die then manslaughter (or whatever the US equivalent is) as he is so wrong as to be positively dangerous.

Grabs a reference book on the properties of gases (one of several to hand)
Carbon MONOXIDE - density at STP = 1.14kg/m3
Air - density at STP = 1.225kg/m3

So Carbon Monoxide is denser than air? - totally and absolutely WRONG (comment self moderated).
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Message 1896871 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 16:16:34 UTC

It does not matter too much.
CO diffuses throughout the room air.
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Message 1896884 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 16:58:17 UTC - in response to Message 1896871.  

That is TOTALLY WRONG - a fiction that has been spreading around the net for a few years and WILL KILL.
Believe me - I've pulled the body from the room. The CO as a stable layer with its base about 3ft off the floor, and lethal levels about 4ft. (I was using BA to enter and leave the room. (And it wasn't a sealed room)
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Message 1896895 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 17:34:27 UTC - in response to Message 1896884.  

Now that is scary. Got some links? I'd like to study more on this.

As an electrical power lineman I was confined space entry trained and certified. We used three and four gas analyzers for entry.
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Message 1896898 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 17:43:26 UTC - in response to Message 1896895.  

Now that is scary. Got some links? I'd like to study more on this.

As an electrical power lineman I was confined space entry trained and certified. We used three and four gas analyzers for entry.

I'd be interested in some documentation as well, because I have seen nothing yet that suggests that CO will layer. Everything I have read says that it disperses readily throughout the room air.
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Message 1896903 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 18:04:12 UTC

Positioning my carbon monoxide detector

When fitting your alarm, you should always follow the instructions that come with it. Where you put the alarm is important, so here are some tips for where to position it.
Alarms can be placed in rooms with fuel burning appliances (eg the room in or near where your boiler is kept).
Place the alarm at head height. This means it'll be at your breathing level. You don't have to fix the alarm to the wall to do this. It can be placed on a table or shelf.
If you have a portable battery alarm, you can place it in the room you spend most time in, or move it from room to room.
Don't place your alarm in a cupboard, behind furniture or near ventilation areas (eg extraction fans).(Vic, take note)
Keep your carbon monoxide alarm at least one metre away from fires, boilers, cookers or heaters.
Avoid placing your carbon monoxide alarm in areas near high condensation and steam (eg kettles, cooker tops, showers).

Just one source of many available in the UK
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Message 1896904 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 18:09:52 UTC
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For background reading:
None on the internet - I work from prime sources
Such as for the relative density, from a the "Rubber Handbook" - an international reference publication.
or, grab any degree/post grad text the physics of gas diffusion and spend a few days reading it - I spent a good few years working in the field.

Then of course there is a British & European Standard - BS EN50292:2013 which covers the installation of fire, smoke and CO alarms.

Then there are a number of campaigns & information groups and the like, some are listed on https://www.carbonmonoxideinfo.co.uk/useful-resources/ (I'm not a member of any of these, nor have I knowingly contributed to their campaigns either financially or technically, my work was on plant control, and it was during that we had the incident I referred to earlier.)

Edited to add - Thanks Sirius - one of the very many I missed.
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Message 1896907 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 18:26:00 UTC - in response to Message 1896904.  

No problem :-). I haven't the experience you have, but I did see a good friend & neighbour removed from his flat in 1998. He died from carbon monoxide poisoning. In fact, several in the other flats had issues which caused the whole block to be evacuated. I was on nights & on my way home so probably was quite fortunate.

As you've pointed out & something we were all made aware of after that incident, is that anything that is even remotely lighter than air will rise & with no ventilation, will soon envelope an area. It wasn't the Internet or some know-it-all but a Fire Officer from the local brigade that informed us.
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Message 1896909 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 18:36:44 UTC

Might I suggest a Moderator please move this to its own thread. With Vic's blessing of course.

Sorry didn't mean to get off on a tangent in Vic's thread.
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Message 1896916 - Posted: 22 Oct 2017, 18:49:42 UTC

Why does the EPA, or whatever agency regulates these detectors, allow the manufacture of plug-in models(which will obviously be placed near the floor)?
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