Christopher Columbus was not a founder of any nation.
I guess that Malliotakis haven't read the United States Declaration of Independence.
Well, here it is.
The United States of America was founded in July 4, 1776!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence#/media/File:United_States_Declaration_of_Independence.jpg

Jan, facts don't matter to the idiocracy.
We are doomed

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Doomed?
I don't think so.
Sooner or later you will be back on track despite Trump and his alike.

Siran...

You stated, to my great relief. That you placed me on your Ignore List.

Must I now believe you have mislead us again?

Oh, you are on my ignore list, there's no misleading there. And what is this "again" BS? Obviously you fail to read what people type in their posts. I told you that I will see what you post because others will quote you. And, if I feel a need to respond, I will.

Besides that, I'm addicted to reading you rhetoric. ;) Did you know, Clyde, that you seem to have tunnel vision? ;)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

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Guessing you then believe Abraham Lincoln. Because of his belief in the 'Inferiority' of Blacks. Would have been a supporter of the KKK and their 'actions'.

All Humans are with sin. It is the extent of their sins and actions. That are necessary to understand.

Where do you come up with this stuff? If that were true, why would he abolish slavery? Do you just make this stuff up just to have something to post?

By the way, you never answered my question about what name(s) I called you. But then, you don't answer peoples questions at all, do you? :|

You know, I just had a thought. Perhaps I shall take you off my list just so's I can keep pestering you as you seem to think we do. ;)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Is a wonderful and necessary conformation of the truth of my beliefs.

Ah but the truth of that is that those beliefs are contrary to 99.8% of the population.

Neither you nor Gary, Thank God, represent the vast majority of people.

An atheist believing in god? Whatever next?

Saying or writing "Thank God", to Educated and Intelligent people. Does not necessarily connote any belief in a Deity.

Educated & intelligent people refrain from using superfluous words :-)

Yep & a good teacher teaches & not mess up by making continual grammatical errors :-)

Yep & a good teacher teaches & not mess up by making continual grammatical errors :-)

Send him a copy https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Style-William-Strunk-Jr/dp/194564401X

At least I don't commit Lies by Omission. As you do.

Your well documented hasty generalizations are falsehoods, commonly known as lies.

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Yep & a good teacher teaches & not mess up by making continual grammatical errors :-)

Sirius B...

Are you finally apologizing for calling me a "Baby Killer"?

What? Apologising for Pointing out that "some" Yanks called "other" Yanks Baby Killers? A question for the History Teacher:

Are you denying the fact that many of your countrymen/women saw those who fought in Vietnam as Baby Killers?

Or is that a part of "your" history that you'd much rather not contemplate?

Are you are confirming Gary's Lies by Omission?

I was only commenting on your well documented dishonesty, nothing more or nothing less.

Are just Differences of Opinion

Your hasty generalizations are not a difference of opinion!

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Yet again this thread has gotten so far off-topic that I can't remember if it ever had one. Did it? Well, I didn't start one or establish whether it has to stay on one, so that will have to be the call of the thread-starter whether it needs a cleanup, but it doesn't seem it will get itself out of the back-and-forth interpersonal griping that has nothing to do with any actual topic.

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There's an old saying & it suits you perfectly:

"If the shoe fits".

There's an old saying & it suits you perfectly:

"If the shoe fits".

Sirius get off the "baby killer" thing. I am part of that generation and I thoroughly believe we were brainwashed and lied to. Read The Pentagon Papers before you ascribe guilt.
Clyde has many faults but being a Nam vet is not necessarily one of them. Depending upon the terms of his enlistment he may not have had a choice about 2 tours. If he had the choice I would blame stupidity or ignorance. OBTW during that era I served in the USMC, thank goodness I missed that horrible thing, sort of. I say sort of because it still affect us all.

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Not every serviceman there personally killed babies. Many however supported units that did. The blood of babies is on their hands.

Not every serviceman there personally killed babies. Many however supported units that did. The blood of babies is on their hands.

That is true for all who paid their taxes, did not oppose the war or did not defect to Canada.
Gary the point you make is "we the people" committed war crimes.

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Not every serviceman there personally killed babies. Many however supported units that did. The blood of babies is on their hands.

That is true for all who paid their taxes, did not oppose the war or did not defect to Canada.
Gary the point you make is "we the people" committed war crimes.

Like Eye et. al. demanding we kill North Korean babies in a preemptive strike.

I guess they didn't get enough blood on their hands in Nam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Panama, Grenada, ...

Wouldn't surprise me if their 401(k) is invested in defense industry stocks.

This thread has gone way off topic and is starting to become a flame fest.

So a lock is in order.

If the op wishes it reopened then it will be.