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Message 1853250 - Posted: 5 Mar 2017, 18:09:37 UTC - in response to Message 1853150.  

[url]I have a suspicion that the sudden dearth of any motherboard for immediate purchase might be because the manufacturers have pulled all stock back from the distributors.[/url]

That is a pretty accurate interpretation of what I was told by my vendor yesterday (a major UK component distributor). The majority of the motherboard manufacturers had pulled stock, while for the others they were being faced with log-jammed phones to resolve BIOS issues.

Yes electrical instability is being touted as the main reason behind mobo shortages (several small independent review sites have now already flagged this issue).

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A bit of a rocky launch. Maybe after the BIOS & socket issues are resolved there will be updated reviews.
So far I've been most disappointed in the power consumption and temps under full load of the 1800X.
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Message 1853270 - Posted: 5 Mar 2017, 19:12:02 UTC - in response to Message 1853150.  


Yes electrical instability is being touted as the main reason behind mobo shortages (several small independent review sites have now already flagged this issue).

I haven't found the news sources or articles about "electrical instability" yet. Can you point me at some links, please.
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Message 1853340 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017, 0:20:37 UTC - in response to Message 1853145.  


That would allow you to run Petri's Special Sauce CUDA app which smokes every other SETI app published so far. That definitely would increase your productivity. You'll find Petri's computers and many others in the top of the Top 100 Computers in the Statistics pages here on the website running his app.

A lot of us are waiting for Jason's fine tunings for Windows to appear.

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. . Yes! <sigh>

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Message 1853349 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017, 0:45:29 UTC - in response to Message 1853149.  

Petri's single computer puts him into the top twenty contributors, and is a long way ahead of any other single computer!
"Tuning" for his app is very simple, set one value only, no great long command line to play with.


. . Yes, his Special Sauce is the magic ingredient in his top position, but having FOUR x GTX1080s doesn't hurt :)

. . I am looking forward to getting my new rig built. A humble i5-6600 with two (yes just 2) GTX970s. It will be running Linux (when I work out how) and with some Special Sauce added I am hoping it will boost my productivity considerably.

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Message 1853350 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017, 0:47:03 UTC - in response to Message 1853150.  

[url]I have a suspicion that the sudden dearth of any motherboard for immediate purchase might be because the manufacturers have pulled all stock back from the distributors.[/url]

That is a pretty accurate interpretation of what I was told by my vendor yesterday (a major UK component distributor). The majority of the motherboard manufacturers had pulled stock, while for the others they were being faced with log-jammed phones to resolve BIOS issues.

Yes electrical instability is being touted as the main reason behind mobo shortages (several small independent review sites have now already flagged this issue).

Cheers.



. . A good thing I waited :)

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Message 1853351 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017, 0:47:28 UTC - in response to Message 1853145.  


That would allow you to run Petri's Special Sauce CUDA app which smokes every other SETI app published so far. That definitely would increase your productivity. You'll find Petri's computers and many others in the top of the Top 100 Computers in the Statistics pages here on the website running his app.

A lot of us are waiting for Jason's fine tunings for Windows to appear.

Cheers.

Do you know if this is happening or is that just wishful thinking?
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Message 1853365 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017, 2:20:00 UTC - in response to Message 1853351.  


Do you know if this is happening or is that just wishful thinking?

I believe Jason has been working with the discoveries that Petri, Raistmer, TBar and the other volunteer developers have figured out with the latest CUDA drivers in the Linux camp and is applying that knowledge over in the Windows environment. That may just be my interpretation of reading between the lines of the forum posts. I have no direct knowledge.
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Message 1853367 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017, 2:41:50 UTC - in response to Message 1853365.  


Do you know if this is happening or is that just wishful thinking?

I believe Jason has been working with the discoveries that Petri, Raistmer, TBar and the other volunteer developers have figured out with the latest CUDA drivers in the Linux camp and is applying that knowledge over in the Windows environment. That may just be my interpretation of reading between the lines of the forum posts. I have no direct knowledge.

And that is as Jason has stated here a few times.

As soon as I (or anyone) has managed to isolate and fix the unroll bug, the special alpha will become available in Windows form. It's not now, only because the mass devastation of the project results that would occur if released. Fortunately have more time for digging from a couple of days ago, though not promising quick fixes. The pulsefinding is unfortunately the most complex part of these applications.


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Message 1853610 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017, 23:46:35 UTC

The 1700 will arrive tomorrow but the MB is still BO and no sign of the Corsair AM4 bracket.
In the mean time I have started to play around with Linux. I have tried to install it alongside windows 10 with no success so I have installed it on another drive so I have to go to bios to select boot
drive but its OK. Next step is getting the basics and learning how to install programs. The first thing will be system monitoring tools as it appear there are no such things in Mint.
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Message 1853645 - Posted: 7 Mar 2017, 2:21:31 UTC - in response to Message 1853610.  

Same situation. 1700X arrives tomorrow. No notice of shipment from Amazon of my pre-ordered motherboard. No notice of the AM4 bracket from Corsair. I'm hoping, really hoping ...... that the motherboard stock is coming back. I saw a notice on another website that my motherboard (ASUS Prime X370) is back in stock at Newegg. They had been with no stock also like Amazon. I'm not going to try ordering from them and cancelling the Amazon order ..... yet. With the state of the OS updates, BIOS updates, cooling bracket who knows when, I will sit and stew for a while to let things fully bake. No real hurry to put the system into play. The existing FX-8300 is doing fine. I still would need to decide whether to buy more 1070's for that system or move existing ones from one of my faster systems or just stand pat for a while with the 970's. Preferably I would have put the Ryzen into one of my faster rigs with the 1070's, but they are still on Windows 7. Whether or not it will be easy to get Ryzen and all its necessary updates running on Windows 7 is unknown. From what I have read, you have to jump through some hoops to fresh install Windows 7 on the Ryzen platform. The slow system gets to be the guinea pig. I've always built the old, faster systems as twins. Same parts, same platform in the past. Would like to keep to the regimen if possible.
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Message 1853893 - Posted: 8 Mar 2017, 21:20:30 UTC
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CPU Motherboard and RAM are either shipped or home already but there will be some delay in shipping from Corsair AM4 bracket. I have received the following email ;


"Thank you for being one of the thousands of people to have ordered a complimentary CORSAIR AM4 bracket. We’re excited to bring our Hydro Series liquid cooler to the new family of AMD Ryzen™ Processors and the new AM4 socket.

However, due to significantly higher than expected demand for our AM4 bracket, we regret that there will be a delay in shipping your order. We are working hard to fulfill every request as fast as possible, and will update you again shortly to provide an estimated delivery date.

As a reminder, the free AM4 bracket is only needed if you are using a CORSAIR Hydro Series H50, H55, H75, H80i v2 (H80i GT), H90, H100i v2 (H100i GTX), H105, H110i GTX or H115 CPU cooler.

If you are using a CORSAIR H60, H110i or H100i, these coolers ship with a fully compatible AM4 mounting bracket included in the box.

Thank you for your patience

CORSAIR Customer Service Team"

I am in the same mood as you Keith no hurry at all to mount the new hardware. Even if I had everything here on my desk I would still have to wait a couple of days as I am very busy right now.
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Message 1853914 - Posted: 8 Mar 2017, 22:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 1853893.  

Yeah, I got the same we're sorry message from Corsair. Still no shipping date or even estimate made. Got the CPU today. Had the memory two weeks ago. Still absolutely no information from Amazon on the motherboard. Sent a email query to Amazon on the status. Haven't heard anything from them. So, no motherboard or any way to fit the existing Corsair AIO. Project on hiatus.
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Message 1854024 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017, 8:20:24 UTC

According to theregister.co.uk AMD has announced a new CPU for servers named Naples with 64 cores and 128 threads.
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Message 1854033 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017, 8:46:02 UTC

My order is due to be picked tomorrow (10 March) - I'll let you know how I get on.

(One of the reasons for going for a 1700 rather than a 1700X was the inclusion of a stock cooler and the probable shortages of suitable 3rd party coolers for the latter.)
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Message 1854097 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017, 14:26:41 UTC
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My RYZEN system is up and running. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8221727
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Message 1854100 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017, 14:43:55 UTC

I think you meant this computer:
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Message 1854103 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017, 15:02:48 UTC - in response to Message 1854100.  

I think you meant this computer:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8221727


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Message 1854105 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017, 15:14:06 UTC

I see you are running with HT (or whatever AMD are calling it) turned off - I guess that is the result of the Win10 problems in correctly working with the new processor. It will be interesting to see how well Linux behaves on my rig (once the bits arrive).
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Message 1854106 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017, 15:19:03 UTC - in response to Message 1854105.  

I see you are running with HT (or whatever AMD are calling it) turned off - I guess that is the result of the Win10 problems in correctly working with the new processor. It will be interesting to see how well Linux behaves on my rig (once the bits arrive).


Actually, I did not make any changes in BIOS, so it is running with defaults. It is now running 15 CPU tasks and 1 GPU task with 1 CPU core allocated, so it appears that SMT is enabled. First set of CPU tasks are 50% done. Windows updates were still loading during this time and had to do a reboot.
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Message 1854110 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017, 15:26:05 UTC
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Fairy snuff, one of those "interesting" BOINC reporting things....

Dreaded Windows updates - they take forever and soak so much resource :-(

I think (!!!) I'll try with stock settings in the BIOS and see how fast it is, then swap over to the other (SMT off/on) setting. It will be interesting. I know I was surprised by the lack of performance loss on my Xeon system, so I left HT on, unlike the i7 it replaced which was definitely much faster with HT off.


(Sitting here drumming fingers on desk waiting (im)patiently for Mr.Picker and Mr.Shipper to do their jobs)
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