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Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
It was discussed a while back by the mods that the word TROLL will not be used on forums in relation to specific posters as an insult. If you do not wish to see what another is posting and feel that perhaps they are just winding you up then; Put them on ignore. Lets stop the name calling now. I know its Saturday and you all have nothing better to do but the recent standard of posting across all these thread is appalling. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30661 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
All I am seeing here in politics across multiple threads is personal attacks by many people. Those few posts with information get buried quickly by the troll(s) who despise truth and information. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34830 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I take it that 239521 is back derailing threads again with his usual rants. Just add 239521 to your ignore list and you'll be surprised how things greatly improve around here. ;-) Cheers. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
<redacted> I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
It was discussed a while back by the mods that the word TROLL will not be used on forums in relation to specific posters as an insult. Bernie, is trollbot OK as a description? |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
It was discussed a while back by the mods that the word TROLL will not be used on forums in relation to specific posters as an insult. Not if using it as an insult. I have a mind to remove all posts where one users is insulting another but that would take to long and leave politics with very little useful content. Please attack a persons belief or stance NOT the person. I thought America was the one country in the world where people can say what they believe without fear, and without being "labelled" Seems not. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
As someone from outside the USA I would quite like to try and understand what is happening in the political situation currently.. And in another universe, after a closely contested election, in which the person who got the most votes of citizens lost, it seems to many, the winner of that election is incapable of fulfilling the obligations of the post to which he was elected. The winner's supporters seem unable to understand why the more numerous group is unhappy with this outcome; still, in fairness to them, none are old enough to have been on the side of a person who garnered the more votes, yet still lost an election. It's a rare event that, rather unfortunately, has occurred twice in recent history, and on both occasions, resulted in the same party's candidate losing. The winner and his allies seem to be suggesting that their opponents are now in some sort of disarray, though at the same time, complain that there is some sort of widespread coordinated approach to undermine the winner. Yes, you read that right, the opposition is both in disarray and capable of conducting a well-planned conspiracy. Not only this, it is claimed that the opposition has access to vast sums of money with which to hire professional agitators. That the winner is unable to provide a shred of evidence to support these claims does not appear to matter much to the supporters, indeed, his supporters seem not to care about evidence at all (some going so far as to suggest that "alternative facts" are based in reality). Oh and in other, more recent developments, the winner, who thought that law enforcement was not doing a sufficiently good job of investigating his opponent prior to the election, has now confirmed that he was also subject of a pre-election investigation, though, in typical incoherent form, says that his being investigated is evidence of a Watergate-like conspiracy against him. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
in which the person who got the most votes of citizens lost, It's still true. Nobody is arguing that is was not in accordance with the law or in favor of a pure democracy, why are your straw man arguments always so obvious? suggesting that their opponents are now in some sort of disarray, So? There's insufficient data to conclude that this is anything more than an aberration. some sort of widespread coordinated approach to undermine the winner. I don't need to look, I have you (and presumably infowars or some similarly trustworthy news source) telling me, it's so much easier this way. has now confirmed that he was also subject of a pre-election investigation, Right, the voting machines are safe, thus the election was safe, another pointless trip into straw man territory. Why did "45" argue so many times that the election would be rigged if he knew all the time that the voting machines were safe from tampering. Oh that's right, there's more than one way to hack an election. The liberal/democrat/socialist/marxist/communists are just throwing temper-tantrums because they just can't believe they LOST. AKA mobilizing opposition, just as tea did eight years ago. The tea supporters just can't believe anybody would want to. My current assessment stands. Splendid. Wouldn't have it any other way. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
Right, the voting machines are safe, thus the election was safe, another pointless trip into straw man territory. Why did "45" argue so many times that the election would be rigged if he knew all the time that the voting machines were safe from tampering. Oh that's right, there's more than one way to hack an election.. exactly. +1 #resist |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Right, the voting machines are safe, thus the election was safe, another pointless trip into straw man territory. Why did "45" argue so many times that the election would be rigged if he knew all the time that the voting machines were safe from tampering. Oh that's right, there's more than one way to hack an election.. Where did the NYT say there was rigging in the first place? Isn't it the case that the NYT has always said there was no wide spread rigging. Vote rigging is all a fantasy in Donald's head, placed there by his fiends. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Right, the voting machines are safe, thus the election was safe, another pointless trip into straw man territory. Why did "45" argue so many times that the election would be rigged if he knew all the time that the voting machines were safe from tampering. Oh that's right, there's more than one way to hack an election.. Who said anything about election vote rigging? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34830 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Right, the voting machines are safe, thus the election was safe, another pointless trip into straw man territory. Why did "45" argue so many times that the election would be rigged if he knew all the time that the voting machines were safe from tampering. Oh that's right, there's more than one way to hack an election.. And don't forget about Putin giving Trump and his horde of crooks all the help and info needed to get there. ;-) Cheers. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
And attempting to 'Influence' an Election, as the Obama Administration attempted Care to substantiate that comment. Educate me further, as I seem to be ignorant in that matter, it seems. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
If there was no rigging of The Vote. My that's a lot of "ifs". Who said there was no rigging of the vote? As far as I can tell, the comments in this thread were" Guy wrote: any logical person can see there's no way for the Russians to successfully "hack a national election" since all voting machines are controlled by different organizations and there's an "air gap" between voting machines and the internet. bobby wrote: Why did "45" argue so many times that the election would be rigged if he knew all the time that the voting machines were safe from tampering. Oh that's right, there's more than one way to hack an election. Neither Guy nor I said that election votes were or were not rigged, hence my earlier question "Who said anything about election vote rigging?" after you decided to join the conversation. Guy said that machines were safe from tampering, which I took on face value, even though Guy provided no evidence to support the claim, and a computer scientist has suggested otherwise. No doubt that computer scientist has an inferior understanding than that of Guy's as to the chemical basis of electronic computation, thus the findings can be summarily dismissed. As 666 has noted, you appear to be in possession of facts that the rest of us have yet to see (that the Obama administration attempted to influence the election). Why would anybody believe that Russians were not successful in their attempts at hacking the Republicans? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
And attempting to 'Influence' an Election, as the Obama Administration attempted Didn't realize Bibi was on the payroll of the Obama administration to influence last year's election. The things you learn on these boards! I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Why would anybody believe that Russians were not successful in their attempts at hacking the Republicans? I accept your apology. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
said that machines were safe from tampering, Apologies, I was paraphrasing your comment: Guy wrote: any logical person can see there's no way for the Russians to successfully "hack a national election" since all voting machines are controlled by different organizations and there's an "air gap" between voting machines and the internet. The comment about "air gap" certainly implied that there were to safe to some degree, again my apologies for not being sufficiently cautious in my language. chemical basis of electronic computation, There is no context in which your comment about chemistry and CPU function could be correct, that you chose to defend it at the time, and since then is your own business. That, while a moderator, you chose to delete the content of the post in which you made the remark is also your own business, if you hadn't then it would be linked with each reference. If you're not happy with the "chemist of computer science" label, perhaps you might reconsider your own use of labels when describing your fellow posters. Oh, and if this poster is part of the problem, you only have your fellow citizens to blame, they invited me here, paid for me to relocate, sponsored my visa and green card application, investigated my background on several occasions during the naturalization process. As for being the main reason for "45" being elected, you have far too high an opinion of me. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
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