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Message 1855494 - Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 5:47:12 UTC - in response to Message 1855491.  
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Steven ... . . This one was like trying to catch a fish with your bare hands.

<CTRL> + C
Will stop a running task like 'top' and 'NVidia-smi -l'
Put it in your notes.

EDIT: Up arrow will give you your last command line back to run again.
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Message 1855496 - Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 5:56:49 UTC - in response to Message 1855494.  

Steven ... . . This one was like trying to catch a fish with your bare hands.

<CTRL> + C
Will stop a running task like 'top' and 'NVidia-smi -l'
Put it in your notes.

EDIT: Up arrow will give you your last command line back to run again.



. . AAhhaa! The old keyboard "Break" command. I didn't think of that.

. . Yes I have been enjoying the old command line buffer. It reminds me of my old Dos 6.2 days :) I am impressed that it is a fairly big buffer too, I can scroll back a long ... long ... way.

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Message 1855527 - Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 12:01:45 UTC

for top you can use q or esc i think instead of breaking it with ctrl+c... you can also check htop, it is much nicer and still a command line.

for copy & pasting, i prefer to setup my terminals to copy on selection. so whatever you select is copied and get used to the shortcuts:
ctrl+insert = copy
shift+insert =paste

now you have use for the right hand side ctrl :)
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Message 1855613 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 14:02:27 UTC

Thought I'd post some results from this morning comparing zi3k+ with zi3t1b. The test WUs are known to produce errors with previous versions. On My Mac, zi3k+ passes all the test WUs, but still produces the Pulsefind error on Main. So, just because it passes the tests doesn't mean it will work all the time. I ran the VLARs a second time just to see if it would produce the Error the second time. The tests were on my old Intel Bad Axe 2 MB using the 1050.
Running on TBar-iSETI at Wed 15 Mar 2017 12:20:22 PM UTC
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Starting benchmark run...
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Listing wu-file(s) in /testWUs :
18dc09ah.26284.16432.6.33.125.wu
26fe09ac.27681.340175.11.38.212.wu
blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_80774_HIP9480_0005.24846.0.17.26.134.vlar.wu
blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_81430_HIP9480_0007.5224.831.17.26.71.vlar.wu

Listing executable(s) in /APPS :
setiathome_x41p_zi3k+_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80
setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80

Listing executable in /REF_APPS :
MBv8_8.0r3305_ssse3_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
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Current WU: 18dc09ah.26284.16432.6.33.125.wu

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Skipping default app MBv8_8.0r3305_ssse3_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, displaying saved result(s)
Elapsed Time: ....................... 3495 seconds
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Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3k+_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 134 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 2608 %
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Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.69%

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Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 134 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 2608 %
-----------------
Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.69%

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Done with 18dc09ah.26284.16432.6.33.125.wu

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Current WU: 26fe09ac.27681.340175.11.38.212.wu

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Skipping default app MBv8_8.0r3305_ssse3_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, displaying saved result(s)
Elapsed Time: ....................... 8508 seconds
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Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3k+_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 202 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 4211 %
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Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.73%

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Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 202 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 4211 %
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Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.73%

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Done with 26fe09ac.27681.340175.11.38.212.wu

====================================================================
Current WU: blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_80774_HIP9480_0005.24846.0.17.26.134.vlar.wu

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Skipping default app MBv8_8.0r3305_ssse3_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, displaying saved result(s)
Elapsed Time: ....................... 6957 seconds
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Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3k+_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 522 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 1332 %
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Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.25%

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Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 490 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 1419 %
-----------------
Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.25%

----------------------------------------------------------------
Done with blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_80774_HIP9480_0005.24846.0.17.26.134.vlar.wu

====================================================================
Current WU: blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_81430_HIP9480_0007.5224.831.17.26.71.vlar.wu

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Skipping default app MBv8_8.0r3305_ssse3_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, displaying saved result(s)
Elapsed Time: ....................... 496 seconds
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Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3k+_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 33 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 1503 %
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Comparing results
                ------------- R1:R2 ------------     ------------- R2:R1 ------------
                Exact  Super  Tight  Good    Bad     Exact  Super  Tight  Good    Bad
        Spike      2     15     15     15      0        2     15     15     15      0
     Gaussian      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
        Pulse      0     12     12     12      1        0     12     12     12      1
      Triplet      0      2      2      2      0        0      2      2      2      0
   Best Spike      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
Best Gaussian      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
   Best Pulse      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
 Best Triplet      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
                ----   ----   ----   ----   ----     ----   ----   ----   ----   ----
                   2     29     29     29      1        2     29     29     29      1

Unmatched signal(s) in R1 at line(s) 524
Unmatched signal(s) in R2 at line(s) 524
For R1:R2 matched signals only, Q= 99.32%
Result      : Weakly similar.

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Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 31 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 1600 %
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Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.32%

----------------------------------------------------------------
Done with blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_81430_HIP9480_0007.5224.831.17.26.71.vlar.wu

====================================================================

Running on TBar-iSETI at Wed 15 Mar 2017 12:50:21 PM UTC
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Starting benchmark run...
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Listing wu-file(s) in /testWUs :
blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_80774_HIP9480_0005.24846.0.17.26.134.vlar.wu
blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_81430_HIP9480_0007.5224.831.17.26.71.vlar.wu

Listing executable(s) in /APPS :
setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80

Listing executable in /REF_APPS :
MBv8_8.0r3305_ssse3_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
----------------------------------------------------------------
Current WU: blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_80774_HIP9480_0005.24846.0.17.26.134.vlar.wu

----------------------------------------------------------------
Skipping default app MBv8_8.0r3305_ssse3_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, displaying saved result(s)
Elapsed Time: ....................... 6957 seconds
----------------------------------------------------------------
Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 490 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 1419 %
-----------------
Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.25%

----------------------------------------------------------------
Done with blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_80774_HIP9480_0005.24846.0.17.26.134.vlar.wu

====================================================================
Current WU: blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_81430_HIP9480_0007.5224.831.17.26.71.vlar.wu

----------------------------------------------------------------
Skipping default app MBv8_8.0r3305_ssse3_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, displaying saved result(s)
Elapsed Time: ....................... 496 seconds
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Running app with command : .......... setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda80 -bs -unroll 5 -device 0
Elapsed Time : ...................... 31 seconds
Speed compared to default : ......... 1600 %
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Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.32%

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Done with blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_81430_HIP9480_0007.5224.831.17.26.71.vlar.wu

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Now to see how it works on Main...
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Message 1855615 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 14:36:13 UTC - in response to Message 1855613.  

. . Hi TBar,

. . I don't think Linux and I will ever be good friends. After the eventual success on the C2D machine I decided to bite the bullet and install it on the Pentium-D. I rant the install twice manually and a third time on the automatic settings. All three times the install seemed to succeed. But every time after the reboot I get "Disk boot failure, insert boot disk" ... :(

. . So now with no Windows drive in the machine I have my main cruncher successfully playing the roll of boat anchor. HEELLLPPP!

:(

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Message 1855617 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 14:58:41 UTC - in response to Message 1855615.  
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http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Disk+boot+failure%2C+insert+boot+disk
Personally, I've never had that problem. Good Luck.

BTW, Beware the App is 64-bit, I don't think it will be happy in a 32-bit system if that's what you are installing.
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Message 1855627 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 16:06:27 UTC - in response to Message 1855617.  

http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Disk+boot+failure%2C+insert+boot+disk
Personally, I've never had that problem. Good Luck.

BTW, Beware the App is 64-bit, I don't think it will be happy in a 32-bit system if that's what you are installing.


. . I am installing it as 64bit. OK along the way I have discovered that this ancient machine, while not having an option to boot from USB will in fact boot from USB when HDD is selected as boot disk. It thinks of USB drives as HDD. :)

. . I have now done an install from USB to USB as with the first machine, and it works, it is now booting from the USB drive, so I have a $64 paper weight sitting in the system in the form a 1TB HDD. I could have saved that money and avoided fiddling around replacing the old HDD in the system and had it installed hours ago if I had only known. I should have tried it despite the BIOS not indicating it could.

. . The only problem now is it is running super slow. I know the Pentium-D is only about half the speed of the C2D in some things but it is not that slow overall. It has 4GB ram and 2 x GTX1060 GPUs so it should be reasonably quick, not super fast for sure but OK. The ram is PC2-6400, 800MHz.

. . Now I am going to try installing all the extras on the list I made from all your help. I should have a second Linux cruncher running within a few more hours.

. . If anything occurs to you as to why it will not boot from a lovely new SATA3 1TB Barracuda HDD let me know, I am curious.

Stephen

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Message 1855676 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 23:26:04 UTC

. . OK, I have stuffed it all again. I got Linux running and the video drivers installed and all the packages, and BOINC fired up OK, but when I copied the Special sauce files into the directory it has gone belly up and no longer wants to talk to Seti@home. The manager runs but isn't talking to anything it seems, as if the client is somehow MIA.

. . I need sleep so bad but I want to get this cruncher back into action ... :(

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Message 1855686 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 0:59:48 UTC - in response to Message 1855676.  

Greetings Stephen

Yep Boinc behaves differently in Linux than Windows. I think there is a command to get the client running but I can't remember.
I usually reboot after I have made changes to the Seti files, yeah its the hard way but I am sure one of the linux gurus on hear will provide a quicker way.

With regards to the 1TB hard drive can your motherboard support that as a boot drive?

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Message 1855689 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 1:28:12 UTC - in response to Message 1855686.  

Greetings Stephen

Yep Boinc behaves differently in Linux than Windows. I think there is a command to get the client running but I can't remember.
I usually reboot after I have made changes to the Seti files, yeah its the hard way but I am sure one of the linux gurus on hear will provide a quicker way.

With regards to the 1TB hard drive can your motherboard support that as a boot drive?

Regards Mark


. . Last question first. I am pretty sure it can. But then I don't know everything and it is possible that it won't. I can't see why, it was fine with both the other SATA drives. They were 200GB and 250 GB and both Seagates. This new one is also a Seagate drive and is only 1TB so I cannot see that would be a problem. If it was over 4TB then maybe. But then I am clearly missing something.

. . As for BOINC. I moved the CUDA80 files out of the project directory and it is now running again. I suspected I may have ghosted a couple of files but I will worry about that when I have worked out why I cannot get it to run with CUDA80.

. . Since that IS the whole point of the exercise.

Stephen

. . I didn't have this problem with the other machine. And I was hoping this one would be a painless exercise.

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Message 1855703 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 4:30:42 UTC - in response to Message 1855689.  

. . I didn't have this problem with the other machine. And I was hoping this one would be a painless exercise.
The other machine has a real 64-bit processor. I don't know if Petri's latest and greatest CUDA 8 App will work on an 11 year old processor or not, I know the SSSE3 CPU App won't, that processor only has SSE3. Both work well on even my ancient Core2 Conroe Xeon. I'd recommend at least a Core2 CPU. If that machine can run a dual core Core2 CPU you can find one for under $10 on eBay. Petri's App doesn't even work on fairly recent CUDA GPUs. I don't have a clue about the HDD either, I'd try it in a different machine and see if it's the drive or the machine giving the problem. Seems to be a cluster, ancient CPUs, Systems on USB flash drives....it really isn't that difficult.
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Message 1855713 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 5:37:26 UTC - in response to Message 1855703.  
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. . I didn't have this problem with the other machine. And I was hoping this one would be a painless exercise.
The other machine has a real 64-bit processor. I don't know if Petri's latest and greatest CUDA 8 App will work on an 11 year old processor or not, I know the SSSE3 CPU App won't, that processor only has SSE3. Both work well on even my ancient Core2 Conroe Xeon. I'd recommend at least a Core2 CPU. If that machine can run a dual core Core2 CPU you can find one for under $10 on eBay. Petri's App doesn't even work on fairly recent CUDA GPUs. I don't have a clue about the HDD either, I'd try it in a different machine and see if it's the drive or the machine giving the problem. Seems to be a cluster, ancient CPUs, Systems on USB flash drives....it really isn't that difficult.
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. . While not as fast at the Core2 series it is nonetheless a true EM64T processor and will run 64 bit software just fine. I have been crunching with it under Windows 7 64 bit for quite a while. And the only reason I had to give up on Windows 10 was because there was no support for the mobo chipset (Geforce4 Intel 64bit) in Win10. I know it is drawing a long bow but I like to try things out. Sadly I cannot upgrade the CPU because the BIOS only supports CPUs up the Pentium Extreme Edition. Dual cores units but not in the league of the Core2 chips. I will be most disappointed if I am unable to get it to work. But yes you are right. You reminded me that the apps in the download include an SSSE3.0 app and this only goes to SSE3.0. But since I do not really want to crunch with the CPU, only the GPUs, that is not an issue.

. . What part of the process might I have missed? Oh well I might have to go back to SoG 64 bit under windows. Still if I could get this to run it should be a doddle when I build the new rig. I might remove the part of the app_info.xml that specifies the SSSE3.0 app. But I have noticed that cl_config.xml is missing. What part of the install should have placed that in the BOINC directory? That could be the step I missed.

Stephen

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Message 1855727 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 7:47:55 UTC - in response to Message 1855713.  

...the only reason I had to give up on Windows 10 was because there was no support for the mobo chipset (Geforce4 Intel 64bit) in Win10...
That should have been a clue.
Here you go, HP-xw4600-Motherboard-441449-001-w-TRAY-Intel-Core-2-Duo-CPU US $21.99 Shipping: FAST 'N FREE
I have two of them. They are a standard ATX board with Two PCIe2 16x slots, one open ended 8x, and one 1x. They will take a Quad core Core2, DDR2 800 MHz ram, and a standard ATX power supply.
There are hundreds of them laying around.


You usually have to make the cc_config.xml file, and it has to be a BOINC compatible xml. Best to just copy it over from another machine.
Configuration file - The configuration is read from a file cc_config.xml. If this file is absent, the default configuration is used. To create or edit the file, use a text editor such as Notepad, and save it as cc_config.xml in your BOINC Data directory.
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Configuration_file
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Message 1855734 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 9:20:39 UTC

Oh well, it appears the latest setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-apple-darwin_cuda80 still has the Pulsefind bug;
Running on TomsMacPro.local at Thu Mar 16 08:51:46 2017
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Starting benchmark run...
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Listing wu-file(s) in /testWUs :
19se08ae.6589.24204.6.33.26.wu blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_81430_HIP9480_0007.5224.831.17.26.71.vlar.wu

Listing executable(s) in /APPS :
setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-apple-darwin_cuda80

Listing executable in /REF_APPs :
MBv8_8.05r3344_sse41_x86_64-apple-darwin
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Current WU: 19se08ae.6589.24204.6.33.26.wu
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Skipping default app MBv8_8.05r3344_sse41_x86_64-apple-darwin, displaying saved result(s)
Elapsed Time: ………………………………… 9763 seconds
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Running app with command : setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-apple-darwin_cuda80 -bs -unroll 8 -device 0
      308.54 real        46.39 user        31.64 sys
Elapsed Time : ……………………………… 308 seconds
Speed compared to default : 3169 %
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Comparing results
                ------------- R1:R2 ------------     ------------- R2:R1 ------------
                Exact  Super  Tight  Good    Bad     Exact  Super  Tight  Good    Bad
        Spike      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
     Autocorr      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
     Gaussian      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
        Pulse      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
      Triplet      1      2      2      2      0        1      2      2      2      0
   Best Spike      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
Best Autocorr      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
Best Gaussian      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
   Best Pulse      0      0      0      0      1        0      0      0      0      1
 Best Triplet      1      1      1      1      0        1      1      1      1      0
                ----   ----   ----   ----   ----     ----   ----   ----   ----   ----
                   2      8      8      8      1        2      8      8      8      1

Unmatched signal(s) in R1 at line(s) 468
Unmatched signal(s) in R2 at line(s) 468
For R1:R2 matched signals only, Q= 99.96%
Result      : Weakly similar.
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Done with 19se08ae.6589.24204.6.33.26.wu.
Current WU: blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_81430_HIP9480_0007.5224.831.17.26.71.vlar.wu
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Skipping default app MBv8_8.05r3344_sse41_x86_64-apple-darwin, displaying saved result(s)
Elapsed Time: ………………………………… 433 seconds
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Running app with command : setiathome_x41p_zi3t1b_x86_64-apple-darwin_cuda80 -bs -unroll 8 -device 0
       33.33 real         3.70 user         2.47 sys
Elapsed Time : ……………………………… 34 seconds
Speed compared to default : 1273 %
-----------------
Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.32%
---------------------------------------------------
Done with blc3_2bit_guppi_57424_81430_HIP9480_0007.5224.831.17.26.71.vlar.wu.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2469424701

It does seem to be better than zi3k+ though. The machine I setup last weds morning with the single 750Ti has been running 24/7 and has a total of 7 Validation inconclusive.
Of those 7 one is from the old ATI App, one is an instant overflow, and one is from a usual suspect leaving 4 legitimate inconclusive tasks verses Validation pending (239).
4 divided by 239 = 0.016 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6906726&state=3
This is good, and the other machines have the inconclusive count in steady decline.
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Message 1855847 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 23:08:00 UTC

. . Hi TBar,

. . I know I am being a bit of a pain, but I am quite sure that it is not a hardware limitation. I have gotten this in the command line window after another failure. This time I got it to run as Anonymous platform with CUDA80 but the tasks bomb out as computational error. I am convinced I have done something wrong in the setup process.

. . I am getting this

(firefox:3472): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 'object->ref_count > 0' failed

(firefox:3472): GConf-WARNING **: Got Disconnected from DBus.



. . Is it perhaps that I have skipped a step and have missed installing one or more libraries that is required?

Stephen

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Message 1855848 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 23:28:41 UTC
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. . And after an "Update" from Ubuntu(?) I got this ...

Data files for some packages could not be downloaded

The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.

ttf-mscorefonts-installer

This is a permanent failure that leaves these packages unusable on your system.  You may need to fix your Internet connection, then remove and reinstall the packages to fix this problem.


. . I know that other post referred to Firefox, but it was from the terminal window running BOINC. Something is screwed up I fear.

:(

Stephen

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. . See I told you I was sick!

. . That is to say I was right, I had screwed up! I checked the stderr of the tasks that failed and it was a permissions issue. When you move files you need to reset their permissions and I had forgotten to :(.

. . I have corrected that oversight and CUDA80 is now crunching merrily away. Now to wait and see what the results are like. And to work out why I cannot lock BOINC to the Launch Bar. The option is there but it never works. :( Always something! Now I am going to bed, wake me in August.

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Message 1855867 - Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 1:34:41 UTC

. . Also one other point. You were correct about the problem updating cc_config.xml settings. With this installation in /home/BOINC and that setting in cc_config.xml set to 1 it is now running as 20 and 0 instead of 30 and 10.

. . Worth noting.

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Message 1855874 - Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 2:38:01 UTC - in response to Message 1855848.  

. . And after an "Update" from Ubuntu(?) I got this ...
Data files for some packages could not be downloaded
The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.
ttf-mscorefonts-installer
This is a permanent failure that leaves these packages unusable on your system. You may need to fix your Internet connection, then remove and reinstall the packages to fix this problem.
This is a problem with M$ Fonts, it happens because during the Restricted Extras install a dialog box pops up asking you to agree to installing the Fonts, but it is usually behind the open window and you can't see it. If you look at the launcher during the install you will see an Icon pop up with a question mark. If you click on the Icon it will bring the dialog to the front and you can agree to installing the Fonts. It has nothing to do with anything other than Web content, and will not bother anything else...especially BOINC.

. . That is to say I was right, I had screwed up! I checked the stderr of the tasks that failed and it was a permissions issue. When you move files you need to reset their permissions and I had forgotten to .
. . I have corrected that oversight and CUDA80 is now crunching merrily away. Now to wait and see what the results are like. And to work out why I cannot lock BOINC to the Launch Bar. The option is there but it never works. :( Always something! Now I am going to bed, wake me in August.
Not having the Execute bit should produce a Permissions Error 13, I have no idea about the errors you saw in that other post, I've never seen them before.. Try searching for them at Ask Ubuntu. I still recommend upgrading to the HP 4600 board, I have Windows 8.1 64-bit installed on one, so, it should work with Windows 10 64-bit. It also works with Ubuntu very well, and I just installed a New 1 TB Western Digital SATA HD on one without any problems. My drive is partitioned for Three different OSes and still has a 600GB Data partition. My 2 machines currently running ATI GPUs are the HP boards, and they are running Quad-Core Core2 CPUs. I've run x3220, x3330, Q9400, and Q9505 Core2s on them. They are selling the HP board for about the price of shipping since there are so many of them from old Workstations.
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Message 1855882 - Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 3:49:41 UTC - in response to Message 1855874.  
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This is a problem with M$ Fonts, it happens because during the Restricted Extras install a dialog box pops up asking you to agree to installing the Fonts, but it is usually behind the open window and you can't see it. If you look at the launcher during the install you will see an Icon pop up with a question mark. If you click on the Icon it will bring the dialog to the front and you can agree to installing the Fonts. It has nothing to do with anything other than Web content, and will not bother anything else...especially BOINC.


. . That's a relief, it wasn't so much my screw up then. I thought it might have meant there was something important I had missed out.

Not having the Execute bit should produce a Permissions Error 13, I have no idea about the errors you saw in that other post, I've never seen them before.. Try searching for them at Ask Ubuntu. I still recommend upgrading to the HP 4600 board, I have Windows 8.1 64-bit installed on one, so, it should work with Windows 10 64-bit. It also works with Ubuntu very well, and I just installed a New 1 TB Western Digital SATA HD on one without any problems. My drive is partitioned for Three different OSes and still has a 600GB Data partition. My 2 machines currently running ATI GPUs are the HP boards, and they are running Quad-Core Core2 CPUs. I've run x3220, x3330, Q9400, and Q9505 Core2s on them. They are selling the HP board for about the price of shipping since there are so many of them from old Workstations.


. . Those other errors were probably because I had tried to copy using drag and drop (windows user) and did not realise that in Linux that merely creates a link to the original, which is useless when you put it on another machine creating a link to a link to a file :(

. . I have corrected that also. Who knew copying was as easy as select and right click?

. . After finally copying things properly I had then replaced files with the right permission set, with copies without it set. Hence the computation errors. Thankfully checking out the stderr of the tasks that failed pointed me to the right place. It is running OK now on a rig with a CPU that is a bit of a dinosaur. There is a run time disparity between the two GPUs, (only about 10 to 20 secs) but I know what is causing that and I will sort that out the next time I have the unit stripped down. The first GPU is on a x16 bus and the second slot is running at x1, I need to change a setting on the mobo and they will then both run at x8. In Linux I miss things like Afterburner and GPU-z :(.

. . I have tried to run "sudo nvidia-config --thermal-configuration-check --cool-bits=4 --enable-all-gpus" but it responds with "command not found". Is there something else I have left out? Would you happen to know what folder I need to be in to get that to work? GPU 0 is running at 73deg and I want to wind the fans up. That's too hot for my liking.

. . I looked at your link. $22 is cheap enough but sadly I am not in the USA. For me there is no free shipping so the equation comes down to 22usd + 25usd(shipping)+95USD(Core2 Quad)+25usd (shipping on the CPU)+50usd(inc shipping, DDR2 ram not available locally).
That comes to about 220 USD. So in real money [ :) ] that would cost me about 350AUD. I could then get the new DVD drive locally for a mere $20 AUD (I am assuming it does not have IDE support so I would need a SATA DVD). By that point I would rather save my pennies (which I am) and buy myself a nice shiny new ASUS Prime X370 mobo and a Ryzen 7 - 1700 to make the upgrade seriously worthwhile. The cost would be double but the results would be a parabolic increase in performance.

. . On the other hand, despite the Gforce4 chipset, the ASUS P5ND2 mobo is a reasonably good one (despite ASUS' lack of driver support for Windows 10). The max CPU it supports is a Pentium Extreme Edition, which is a dual core with hyper threading. I doubt that it could support a Core2 Quad as they are 4 discreet cores, but is there a dual core Xeon that has hyperthreading? I wonder if it could be fooled into thinking one of them was a Pentium Extreme? Naah, the timings in the BIOS would probably be all wrong. Nothing is that easy. I will have a look on the net. :) The mobo supports overclocking quite easily if that was required.

Stephen

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Message 1855889 - Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 4:33:37 UTC - in response to Message 1855882.  

"sudo nvidia-xconfig --thermal-configuration-check --cool-bits=28 --enable-all-gpus"

Try that.

It has x in the config and cool-bits is now 28.
You get options to set fan, gpu, vram, ...
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