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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31317 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
Putin said the American people prevented WWIII by voting for Trump. (Implying if that felon had won the election...) Reasonable inference. <ed>Maybe that's why Trump doesn't want the hacking investigation? ![]() |
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Putin said the American people prevented WWIII by voting for Trump. (Implying if that felon had won the election...) Remember Hillary's infamous big red 'reset button'?? There wasn't much goodwill between Putin and H. Clinton after the 'button', followed by the leaked email from HRC during her tenure as SecState totally dismissing Russia's concerns during the Syrian Civil War, prompting Putin to bring out Russian bombers for use in Syria, turning Syria into a proxy war between Russia and the USA. Add to this the nuclear treaty on the disposal of plutonium that Russia recently pulled out of. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/04/world/europe/russia-plutonium-nuclear-treaty.html ... So... would Putin have attacked? To summarize: 1. In proxy war with US in Syria. 2. Invasion of part of Ukraine. 3. Hates Hillary. 4. Pulls out of a nuclear weapons material treaty. What do you think? https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
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Or perhaps Why Invade When You Can Hack? http://www.rferl.org/a/daily-vertical-sweden-invasion-hack/28165663.html The same Russian hackers who attacked the US elections now suspected to be behind the attacks directed at the upcoming German elections. http://g8fip1kplyr33r3krz5b97d1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Maassen_statement_russian_cyber_dec_8_2016.pdf |
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Just this question: How did Putin 'effect' our elections? Russian bears like Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear doesn't hibernate:) Oh. Britain are subjects as well. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/08/britain-faces-fundamental-threat-sovereignty-russian-meddling/ |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19691 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Just this question: How did Putin 'effect' our elections? Well if a sizeable proportion of the population doesn't use traditional news sites and relies on social media, is it surprising that what they base their opinions on might be false. And if the Russians are assisting in spreading false news? PEW - News Use Across Social Media Platforms 2016 |
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Or perhaps Why Invade When You Can Hack?
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I think the US (and Seti@home forums) needs the return of 'Ex'. "Donald Trump’s cabinet is almost complete, and his picks so far provide a picture of domestic priorities that are a nearly 180-degree departure from President Obama. Consider: He selected a vocal critic of the Environmental Protection Agency - and climate-change skeptic - to run the EPA; a fast-food CEO, who opposes a minimum-wage hike and wants fewer workplace regulations, to run the Labor Department; an Obamacare foe to run the Health and Human Services, which administers the health care law; and a critic of public education to run the Education Department. And that’s to say nothing of the Small Business nominee who is principal donor to his foundation and a wrestling CEO. Her wrestlers are independent contractors, who are required to sign exclusive contracts that state they can’t sue for injuries or even death." Yep. This is the direction we are gonna take to "Make America Great Again". Good going 'Murrica! #resist |
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Welcome back Ex. ![]() |
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It's been a long time, welcome back. |
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BTW: Putin did not ensure a Republican Majority in our States You are the one advancing that strawman. No one else has claimed he even tried to. However that may be a side effect of his meddling in the presidential contest. ![]() |
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I think the US (and Seti@home forums) needs the return of 'Ex'. Well... Not that it will EVER happen, but that is exactly what is needed. Lower taxes (especially on Business), fewer regulations, etc. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
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Well... Not that it will EVER happen, but that is exactly what is needed. Lower taxes (especially on Business), fewer regulations, etc. Absolutely there should not be a regulation that prevents a business for ordering workers to remove safety guards so they can increase productivity! If a worker thinks this is bad, negotiate and apply for a different job! <ed>Here is another unnecessary regulation that gets in the way of hiring the best labor. Get rid of the requirement that a child care facility do a criminal background check. Look at all the money that will save! Sweetness! ![]() |
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Well, for better or worse it seems that it *is* happening. You should be running around with joy. Time will tell however if you are correct. I for one was born into the Reagan era and grew up in a post-Reagan world, and this is why I think this is *wrong* direction. Trickle down economics doesn't work in a vacuum of greed, and some method of leveling the playing field of the oligarchs is necessary. What I fear happening here is the middle class becoming all but extinguished [which is ironic since it is the middle class that is seemingly responsible for electing Mr. Trump] while the very rich are being allowed to run around like the robber-barons that they are while scheming and sneaking their way along and undoing regulations that protect you and me and everyone we know, stealing from those who don't know any better and those who don't have any choice, and the masses being left to pick up the pieces of a country (or possibly world) that could be in shambles before this is over. (...and none of this even focused on the obvious other agendas of this administration to go against the equality and rights that are important to so many Americans.) I hope you are right though, and I hope this administration results in the jobs and growth it has promised, and I hope this growth affects EVERYONE and not just those at the top. [also hello to Gary and Betreger, long time no see to you and everyone!] #resist |
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stealing from those who don't know any better Wells Fargo? We don't need regulations or enforcement of fraud laws because they are bad for business. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19691 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
What I fear happening here is the middle class becoming all but extinguished [which is ironic since it is the middle class that is seemingly responsible for electing Mr. Trump] while the very rich are being allowed to run around like the robber-barons that they are while scheming and sneaking their way along and undoing regulations that protect you and me and everyone we know, stealing from those who don't know any better and those who don't have any choice, and the masses being left to pick up the pieces of a country (or possibly world) that could be in shambles before this is over. Why would anybody assume that the selection process for high office in the US isn't going to going to involve people or organisations with lots of money to try and get their views to the top of the agenda. |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51534 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
And with all the money that Clinton has..........she almost pulled it off. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
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True that during the campaigns, Clinton outspent Trump by a huge amount AND had the bigger money backers overall. BUT the Clinton's net worth is no where near what Trump's is, and the cabinet Mr. Trump is appointing is worth more money than any cabinet this country has ever seen as far as I know. It is this difference that I am fearful of. It is seeming the control has shifted from the rich, and to the VERY rich... (and not just control by proxy, this situation is going to be *direct* control in many cases) #resist |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51534 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
True that during the campaigns, Clinton outspent Trump by a huge amount AND had the bigger money backers overall. Somehow, I have more faith in the man than many seem to. If I did not, I would not have voted for him. One of the reasons was the fact the he IS independently wealthy, and so did not have to rely on donors to his campaign to which he might later be held accountable to. One thing is for certain. No matter what he does, there is going to be many in disagreement with him. The very fact that the vote in this country was so closely split foretells of much hand wringing, whining, and complaining about whatever path he takes. With half of the country not getting their way, he is gonna gore a lot of oxen no matter what he does or how he goes about it. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
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True that during the campaigns, Clinton outspent Trump by a huge amount AND had the bigger money backers overall.I don't remember a cabinet of J.D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, Vanderbilt, Astor, Henry Ford, J. P. Morgan either. His appointments all have significant conflicts of interest. It may be a hundred years after Trump before all the court cases this will spawn will be decided. It may take that long to clear out the judicial swamp Trump creates. Of course his multi-trillion dollar jobs bill, sounds like a warmed over FDR new deal, how liberal is that? And how much is that going to balloon the Federal Debt! Or is Norquist dead and we actually pay for it? ![]() |
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