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HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
I'm very curious as to what the 1060 and even the 1050 will perform like, as well as power consumption. In the blurbs I've been reading about pascal, best rumour I've heard is late summer/early fall, anyone see anything else mentioned about them? The 1070 is to be released June 10th. The 1060 is said to be released in "the fall". Which looks to fit their normal schedule of releasing the first GPUs a few weeks apart. Then staggering the rest at 3+ month intervals. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65763 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I ordered one. That's nothing, I saw one 1080 on Amazon for about $1704 or about €1528... It would be nice to find out if a Corsair N970 would fit with little to no mods on a GTX 1070, which is what I'm seeing elsewhere in speculation that is going about. There is a preview Here on the HardOCP, plus pics too, much too big to display here, so I put one pic(1024*488) on My photobucket site for display here. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
shizaru Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 1130 Credit: 1,967,904 RAC: 0 |
[Had this in notepad about 5hrs before the AMD announcement but we never got back from the outage when it went live. Posting as is so I can go to bed:)] Computex in full swing. Too much info to digest really (much less comment on) so I'll just be link-bombing for now :) AMD to unveil Polaris in about 1hr Should be here: http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/corporate-information/events/computex try here if not: https://www.youtube.com/user/amd https://www.twitch.tv/amd Until then you might enjoy: "AMD To Chase Market Share Over High End With First Polaris Offerings" http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-polaris-10-mainstream-gpu,31879.html ----------- INTEL news & reviews: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10361/intel-announces-xeon-e3-1500-v5-iris-pro-and-edram-for-streaming-video http://www.anandtech.com/show/10337/the-intel-broadwell-e-review-core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-tested-up-to-10-cores http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-broadwell-e-6950x-6900k-6850k-6800k,4587.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/10338/computex-2016-intel-keynote-live-blog-at-2pm-tpe-2am-edt http://techreport.com/news/30216/intel-computex-keynote-confirms-kaby-lake-and-optane-for-2016 ---------- External GPUs finally going mainstream (and hot-swappable?) with TB3: ROG XG Station 2 (scroll half-way down first link) http://rog.asus.com/23412016/coming-soon/computex-2016-asus-rog-announced-the-latest-and-greatest-in-gaming-tech/ http://www.techpowerup.com/222996/asus-unveils-rog-xg2-graphics-enclosure http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40793-asus-shows-its-xg-station-2-external-gpu-at-computex-2016 PowerColor DEVIL BOX http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40778-powercolor-announces-devil-box-external-gpu-box http://www.powercolor.com/Global/News.asp?id=1247 ---------- Then there's this: Backpack PCs for VR Gaming are now a "thing": http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/27/11790674/hp-virtual-reality-gaming-pc-backpack http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/5/26/11789096/msi-backpack-pc-virtual-reality http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/25/11504118/zotac-stuffed-a-pc-into-a-backpack-for-untethered-vr-gaming (The main take-away being that VR is getting taken seriously. Good news for GPU Wars!) Edit: New http://www.anandtech.com/show/10389/amd-teases-radeon-rx-480-launching-june-29th-for-199 http://www.anandtech.com/show/10390/computex-2016-amd-press-conference-live-blog |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Watching the vid. RX480 US$199 and VR capable ? "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Empire_Builder Send message Joined: 4 Sep 11 Posts: 17 Credit: 753,579 RAC: 0 |
$200, only 150W TDP, and greater than 5 TFLOPS of performance. This might be one cheap beast for us crunchers! |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Watching the vid. RX480 US$199 and VR capable ? Since the the rest of the VR gear is around $800 having the GPU be less expensive is nice I guess. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19075 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
$200, only 150W TDP, and greater than 5 TFLOPS of performance. This might be one cheap beast for us crunchers! The 1070 is also only 150W TDP, so I would guesstimate the 1060 when it appears, in 3 months, might be as low as 100W TDP and cheaper. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
$200, only 150W TDP, and greater than 5 TFLOPS of performance. This might be one cheap beast for us crunchers! The NV 10 series looks to have a $50 bump in price over the 900 series. So the 1060 will likely be $250 & only ~3500 GFLOPs. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
I am thinking that NV will probably try a little harder to be price competitive in the low end, if their cards don't match up exceedingly well at what would have been expected price point. I doubt they will want to cede the lower end market to AMD, and they are making bank (from now until they are finally released) on the 1070/80 line. Plus, by that time they hopefully would improve their yields to make them even more cost competitive. Just a guess, but I don't believe they will rest on their laurels. |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
I dunno, one part of me feels NV has held back, just because p100 supposedly is a thing, and 1080 is 'only' ~2x970. Sure, bad yields + HBM2 unavailability, but never stopped NV prematurely launching unobtainium before. Another part is that traditionally AMD has been in bed with m$ via XBox, and now has ties with Samsung and China, so low to medium end mass production seems like a probable advantage there for them. Last part that bothers me, is that the topend consumer/gaming cards usually require more power. Of course using less power is good for preserving fossil fuels, but there are those with hydro power, nuclear and renewable sources of energy these days. Pushing the 300W PCIe spec limits probably isn't a big deal for some number of customers So my feeling is the 1080 is mid-high-end, rx480 upper mid, and the true mainstream and ultra-enthusiast platforms are yet to appear. Looks to me like they're just avoiding competing for the time being, at least until they can build the emerging VR and 4k gaming markets which Intel and m$ have no hope of surviving in. [Consider: Samsung makes 4k screens I believe] "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Can't remember where I saw it but they were talking about Pascal Titan Here's a hint at what it might be http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-pascal-1080ti-and-titan-spec-leaks/#:FXrJQvDN5ubNjA |
tbret Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 3380 Credit: 296,162,071 RAC: 40 |
I'm getting the whole tick-tock vibe. If they can sell Pascal and cause an upgrade cycle, unless AMD blows past them (unlikely), they'll maximize revenue selling one "series" at a time. Or by bringing-out a Titan (of sorts) at some stupidly high price-point with incredible markup. |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Or by bringing-out a Titan (of sorts) at some stupidly high price-point with incredible markup. This. |
Gamboleer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 06 Posts: 29 Credit: 12,391,598 RAC: 0 |
I've been seeing posts elsewhere that the 4GB 480 is $199 USD; 8GB $239. |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Has anyone tried installing a 1080 with any other series GPU and see if they will work together? |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Has anyone tried installing a 1080 with any other series GPU and see if they will work together? Common pattern is some amount of weirdness with the dedicated Day-0 driver release, followed by better compatibility a general driver release or two after that. Doesn't always go like that, but more probable with a major architecture change. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
I dunno, one part of me feels NV has held back, just because p100 supposedly is a thing, and 1080 is 'only' ~2x970. Sure, bad yields + HBM2 unavailability, but never stopped NV prematurely launching unobtainium before. Looking at the trend for the R9 x80 cards the 400 series looks like a heck of a bump in oomph. While being more affordable and efficient. R9 280 2964 GFLOPs SP 250w $249 R9 380 3476 GFLOPs SP 190w $329 RX 480 5000 GFLOPs SP 150w $199 My R9 390X is only ~6000 GFLOPs. So I look forward to seeing what they do with the rest of the range. If the high end Fury GPUs get a similar treatment I might even end up going that route for one of my system. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19075 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
One thing that people seem to be ignoring in the press release is The $199 starting SEP for select Radeon RX Series GPUs and that crossfire can be done for under $500. That without actual data could mean the top end 480 with 8GB of GDDR5 could be as high as $249. So before jumping one way or the other I think it would be wise to wait until the independent sites have done their testing and maybe, even then, not until we see what the Nvidia 1060 performance/price is like. |
shizaru Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 1130 Credit: 1,967,904 RAC: 0 |
Quick pop-in 2c if anybody had a 1080 up 'n' running... Petri I sure hope ur physically ok and just testing offline or something. Have a great summer everybody :) |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Quick pop-in 2c if anybody had a 1080 up 'n' running... Last chat I had with Petri I did a bit of a braindump on the pulsefinding issue via pm. Probably he's busily wading through confirming/rejecting/adapting/testing pieces, or gone on a rampage through the streets. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
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