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Message 1770154 - Posted: 7 Mar 2016, 0:44:50 UTC

Hey Al,

I think I mentioned this somewhere back but do you run CCleaner? To clean the registry after restarts and between crashes and reinstalls?

I seem to remember having trouble awhile back and that resolved that issue.

Not that you need it now as you got it to work, but might help in the future.
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Message 1770166 - Posted: 7 Mar 2016, 1:36:13 UTC - in response to Message 1770154.  

Yep, downloaded it and ran it, it found a few items to clean up, but sadly it didn't fix the BOINC issues after completing the process. Strange days indeed -- most peculiar, BOINC. Woah! lol

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Message 1770265 - Posted: 7 Mar 2016, 17:38:55 UTC

Ok, since "I" *rolleyes* did such a good job of getting my new computer running BOINC correctly yesterday, I was feeling cocky and thought I would give it a shot on the other new computer I am putting together for my daughter to run Minecraft on. Thinking that I actually knew what I was doing, I modified the file and put it on this computer, thinking it would run 1 CPU task and hopefully 2 GPU tasks. The file looks like this:

<app_config>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
<plan_class>cuda50</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.5</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
<plan_class>opencl_nvidia_100</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.5</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
</app_version>
</app_config>



OBVIOUSLY I missed something, because the error in the first line of the log tells me so. All I want to do is one CPU and 2 GPU, was I even thinking correctly when I made the changes?

3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Missing start tag in cc_config.xml
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.22 for windows_intelx86
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Running under account CC
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 361.91, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 2048MB, 1814MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 361.91, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 2048MB, 1814MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Host name: CC-PC
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.80GHz [Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 10]
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni cx16 nx lm tm2 pbe
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 5.99 GB virtual
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Disk: 698.54 GB total, 676.81 GB free
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Local time is UTC -6 hours
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 7946538; resource share 100
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 03-Apr-2013 22:59:56)
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | Preferences:
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | max memory usage when active: 1535.08MB
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 2916.66MB
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | No tasks sent
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for SETI@home v7
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for AstroPulse v7
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for SETI@home v8
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress

Probably something simple and stupid, but if anyone could let me know the errors of my ways, I would appreciate it.

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Message 1770269 - Posted: 7 Mar 2016, 18:06:49 UTC - in response to Message 1770265.  

Ok, since "I" *rolleyes* did such a good job of getting my new computer running BOINC correctly yesterday, I was feeling cocky and thought I would give it a shot on the other new computer I am putting together for my daughter to run Minecraft on. Thinking that I actually knew what I was doing, I modified the file and put it on this computer, thinking it would run 1 CPU task and hopefully 2 GPU tasks. The file looks like this:

<app_config>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
<plan_class>cuda50</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.5</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
<plan_class>opencl_nvidia_100</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.5</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
</app_version>
</app_config>



OBVIOUSLY I missed something, because the error in the first line of the log tells me so. All I want to do is one CPU and 2 GPU, was I even thinking correctly when I made the changes?

3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Missing start tag in cc_config.xml
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.22 for windows_intelx86
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
3/7/2016 11:37:27 AM | | Running under account CC
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 361.91, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 2048MB, 1814MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 361.91, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 2048MB, 1814MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Host name: CC-PC
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.80GHz [Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 10]
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni cx16 nx lm tm2 pbe
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 5.99 GB virtual
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Disk: 698.54 GB total, 676.81 GB free
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | | Local time is UTC -6 hours
3/7/2016 11:37:28 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 7946538; resource share 100
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 03-Apr-2013 22:59:56)
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | Preferences:
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | max memory usage when active: 1535.08MB
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 2916.66MB
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/7/2016 11:37:33 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | No tasks sent
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for SETI@home v7
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for AstroPulse v7
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | No tasks are available for SETI@home v8
3/7/2016 11:37:34 AM | SETI@home | This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress

Probably something simple and stupid, but if anyone could let me know the errors of my ways, I would appreciate it.

The error is telling you exactly what is wrong with your cc_config.xml
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/client_configuration
Make sure you have everything needed.
<cc_config>
   <log_flags>
       [ ... ]
   </log_flags>
   <options>
       [ ... ]
   </options>
</cc_config>

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Message 1770271 - Posted: 7 Mar 2016, 18:16:37 UTC - in response to Message 1770269.  

As HAL pointed out, you are missing something at the start of your cc_config.xml

Make sure you have the counterpart for all of the </whatever> that appear at the end of your file

That is only a dual core?

If you get it up and running, make sure it's not too sluggish when running minecraft.

If it is, you might need to drop the number of work units on the GPU so your daughter can enjoy her game.
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Message 1770286 - Posted: 7 Mar 2016, 19:15:39 UTC - in response to Message 1770269.  

Ok, I see a some of what I did wrong, here are the updates, though it still is running one task GPU, 2 tasks CPU:

app_config.xml =

<app_config>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
<plan_class>cuda50</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.5</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
<plan_class>opencl_nvidia_100</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.5</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
</app_version>
</app_config>


cc_config.xml =


<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>



Restarted BOINC, no changes.


3/7/2016 1:14:53 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.22 for windows_intelx86
3/7/2016 1:14:53 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
3/7/2016 1:14:53 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
3/7/2016 1:14:53 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
3/7/2016 1:14:53 PM | | Running under account CC
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 361.91, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 2048MB, 1913MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 361.91, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 2048MB, 1913MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | Host name: CC-PC
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.80GHz [Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 10]
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni cx16 nx lm tm2 pbe
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 5.99 GB virtual
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | Disk: 698.54 GB total, 676.81 GB free
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | Local time is UTC -6 hours
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | SETI@home | Found app_config.xml
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | SETI@home | Entry in app_config.xml for app 'astropulse_v7', plan class 'opencl_nvidia_100' doesn't match any app versions
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | | Config: use all coprocessors
3/7/2016 1:14:54 PM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 7946538; resource share 100
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 03-Apr-2013 22:59:56)
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | | Preferences:
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | | max memory usage when active: 1535.08MB
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 2916.66MB
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | SETI@home | File 24ap10ag.2245.23384.8.35.170 exists already, skipping download
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/7/2016 1:14:59 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
3/7/2016 1:15:00 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/7/2016 1:15:00 PM | SETI@home | Not sending work - last request too recent: 77 sec
3/7/2016 1:15:00 PM | SETI@home | Entry in app_config.xml for app 'astropulse_v7', plan class 'opencl_nvidia_100' doesn't match any app versions

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Message 1770298 - Posted: 7 Mar 2016, 21:07:19 UTC - in response to Message 1770286.  
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Ok,

Looking at your stderr report looks like you are running cuda 3.2 instead of cuda 5.0 unless those were downloaded before you installed Lunatics?

I still don't know why it's not following the app_config.xml

You can alter the app_info to get it to work correctly.

Since that is 2 machines it's not working in, I have to wonder if the app_config is some how flawed. We might have to try Brent version to see if that works instead.
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Message 1770301 - Posted: 7 Mar 2016, 21:33:15 UTC - in response to Message 1770298.  

If the problem is on the machine I think it is ... since it is running the latest BOINC client 7.6.22, why don't you just use the built in cc_config tool in the client and just select for the config file's defaults? It's under [Options] > [Event Log Options] Even though it is labelled as the Event Log editor, it also handles the client's BOINC configuration options. It will write out all possible option toggles and the <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> option is usually at the bottom after the proxy information. If the entry isn't there, you can always add it manually with Notepad. Stop the client and restart and then see if cc_config is being read correctly.
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Message 1770303 - Posted: 7 Mar 2016, 21:37:27 UTC - in response to Message 1770301.  

As far as the issue with app_config, I don't bother with plan classes or ncpu statements. I keep it simple as possible and have had zero issues with the minimal statements necessary to run the project using my available GPU resources. Here is my app_config.xml entry:

<app_config>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v8</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.33</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.10</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>

<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.33</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.10</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>

<app>
<name>astropulse_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
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Message 1770424 - Posted: 8 Mar 2016, 12:42:25 UTC - in response to Message 1770271.  
Last modified: 8 Mar 2016, 12:51:01 UTC

As HAL pointed out, you are missing something at the start of your cc_config.xml

Make sure you have the counterpart for all of the </whatever> that appear at the end of your file

That is only a dual core?

If you get it up and running, make sure it's not too sluggish when running minecraft.

If it is, you might need to drop the number of work units on the GPU so your daughter can enjoy her game.

Some of their results are with the CUDA 3.2 app and some are with the CUDA 5.0 app. I guess both are installed?
If both apps are present then the app_config.xml is only configured to run 2 instances when the CUDA 5.0 app is running. I believe the CUDA 5.0 is suppose to be more efficient on the newer cards. If that is correct then the CUDA 3.2 app could be removed & that machine should be good to go.

If needed minecraft could be setup as an exclusive app. So the SETI@home apps don't slow game play.
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Message 1772444 - Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 16:06:30 UTC

Ok, back to this one again, now that I have a couple minutes to spend on it. Just for an update, my cc_config file reads

<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>


and my app_config is

<app_config>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
<plan_class>cuda50</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.5</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
<plan_class>opencl_nvidia_100</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.5</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
</app_version>
</app_config>


I made the changes/additions I believe the last time I was on this thread, and it was still running 2 CPU and one GPU tasks. There may have been one other file that was tweaked, but I can't remember what it was, though I thought it was a much bigger one than either of those.

I had left it as it was because I didn't have the time or patience to mess with it, but my goal on this particular machine was to have 1 CPU and 2 GPUS tasks crunching, though for some reason it seemed stuck using 2 CPU's and 1 GPU regardless of what was in the config files.

About 2 days ago or so I had shut down and rebooted my computer, and when BOINC came up, I checked out the tasks screen, and low & behold it showed that it was now running 1 CPU and 2 GPUs! Whoot! I had no idea why it finally started working correctly, but at that point I didn't care, I was happy it was doing what I asked it to, and supposedly my RAC would now skyrocket. Or so I thought.

I noticed the following day that the RAC had actually dipped, though I believe my daughter may have turned it off for a time, so I didn't give it much thought, I just told everyone to always leave this machine on, I am testing things on it. This morning when I checked, I noticed that the RAC had continued to drop on it.

One thing that I am not sure if it is correct, it looks odd to me for some reason that I can't put my finger on, is on the Tasks screen, it shows the 2 cuda_50 tasks Running (0.5CPUs+0.5 Nvidia GPUs). Is it supposed to be .5 CPU's or .05 CPU's? Could this be the issue?

I don't understand this, as this is Not a high powered CPU, and I would have thought that relieving it of 1/2 of it's duties, while putting the bigger load onto the much more capable GPU would improve things markedly. It appears at least to this point that it isn't happening.

Just restarted BOINC again right now, here is the initial log screen:

3/18/2016 10:37:02 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.22 for windows_intelx86
3/18/2016 10:37:02 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
3/18/2016 10:37:02 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
3/18/2016 10:37:02 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
3/18/2016 10:37:02 AM | | Running under account CC
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 361.91, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 2048MB, 1658MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 361.91, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 2048MB, 1658MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | Host name: CC-PC
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.80GHz [Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 10]
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni cx16 nx lm tm2 pbe
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 5.99 GB virtual
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | Disk: 698.54 GB total, 673.96 GB free
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | SETI@home | Found app_config.xml
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | SETI@home | Entry in app_config.xml for app 'astropulse_v7', plan class 'opencl_nvidia_100' doesn't match any app versions
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | | Config: use all coprocessors
3/18/2016 10:37:03 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 7946538; resource share 100
3/18/2016 10:37:08 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 03-Apr-2013 23:59:56)
3/18/2016 10:37:08 AM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
3/18/2016 10:37:08 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
3/18/2016 10:37:08 AM | | Preferences:
3/18/2016 10:37:08 AM | | max memory usage when active: 1535.08MB
3/18/2016 10:37:08 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 2916.66MB
3/18/2016 10:37:08 AM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
3/18/2016 10:37:08 AM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
3/18/2016 10:37:09 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/18/2016 10:37:09 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
3/18/2016 10:37:10 AM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
3/18/2016 10:37:10 AM | SETI@home | Entry in app_config.xml for app 'astropulse_v7', plan class 'opencl_nvidia_100' doesn't match any app versions
3/18/2016 10:37:12 AM | SETI@home | Started download of 15ap10aa.6504.7838.4.31.214
3/18/2016 10:37:14 AM | SETI@home | Finished download of 15ap10aa.6504.7838.4.31.214


So, pretty much everything (except that AP_v7 error) is running just as had been hoped for, the only thing apparently not working out is the productivity of the machine. I have even used EVGA's Precision 16 utility to slightly overclock this card, and it is running stable and pretty cool, I believe around 32-35*, just trying to squeeze every bit of Umph out of this box that I can. As it's a Dell XPS, the CPU is running at stock speed, though I did upgrade it to the 3.8ghz version, as that is the fastest CPU this board supports.

If anyone has any thoughts as to what might be happening, why, and what to do about it, I'd appreciate them. Thanks!

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Message 1772463 - Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 17:27:41 UTC - in response to Message 1772444.  

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I think you might be expecting too much too quick.

You only have 24 valid and 29 pending.

Yes are crunching more than you were before but you still have to wait for your wingman to return their work units and validate against yours.

The 0.5 is ok, you can change it down to less if you want to the computer will end up using whatever it need.

What might (and probably will happen) if you decrease that value is another CPU task will start up.

2 GPU work units requiring 0.5 will total 1 full core

If you change that value to 0.05 then it will be 0.1 or basically 0 so then BOINC will see a extra CPU for it's use and will start up another CPU work unit.

Will that mean the GPU won't crunch? No, it just means that the CPU work unit will use up to 1 full core and whatever is left over will go to the GPU work unit.

The reason we give bigger values of CPU usage to the GPU work units is that we get it to reach a full CPU value (ie 1,2,3 instead of a portion 1.3, 2.7) That way we keep a CPU work unit from using those cores and they remain for the GPU. Understand?
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Message 1772464 - Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 18:01:33 UTC - in response to Message 1772463.  
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I think so, I will try to just hang loose. The biggest What the Heck was that the RAC had dropped, not even leveled off, but dropped, when going from mostly CPU to mostly GPU crunching. The most graphic thing was actually the statistics tab in BOINC, with the graph going up at a 45-50* angle till that day, and then dropping. I know that the computer wasn't off for _that_ long (12-18 hours tops?), so I correlated it to the switch from CPU to GPU.

My biggest question is that I believe this CPU is a single core with Hyper threading, so 2 virtual cores, do you think that it can handle this GPU plus crunching on one core as well? The RAC was less than impressive, this is currently producing a bit less RAC than my computer

ID: 4295619: Genuine Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13] (2 processors) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (511MB) driver: 270.61

was producing before the switch over to v8 and it stopped getting new tasks because I haven't been up there to upgrade it, mainly because I am not sure which version of the programs would work with this hardware anymore, especially on the video side.

Regardless, it has a bit better CPU and a Much worse GPU, and with the way that BOINC loves GPU processing, I had much higher expectations than what I have produced on this machine so far, and it has been almost 3 weeks since it was put into service. A RAC of 2500 (and dropping) just doesn't seem right for a 9xx series video card, even if it is just a lowly 950...

Am I expecting too much? I can always turn off CPU crunching if it is getting in the way of the GPU, no problem there, other than being told how to do it...

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Message 1772468 - Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 18:15:31 UTC - in response to Message 1772464.  

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You may be right.

I thought that was a dual core not a single core with HT.

I've looked at the times on your pending and they are all over the place. Some talking more than 5 hours. So, I think you might be starving the GPU while CPU crunching.

It's easy to stop CPU crunching.

Under account on the Seti@home web page go to seti@home Preferences, click there

You should probably select different location(If you haven't already) for that computer so it doesn't interfere with the rest of your computers.

then click on edit preferences and unclick "use CPU"

then save.

If you don't know how to change location for your computer, again decide what location you want for that computer, modify it as above then return to your account, then look for "computers on your account" click view then find the computer and click details under the computers, new page should appears, down near the bottom it will say location that allows you to change location, change it to the decided location and save.

Then go to that computer and click on setiathome under projects then click update to the left. the first time it does this it will change location, the second time it does this it will put into affect any chances. It will finish out any work but no new CPU should download
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Ahh, that's right! I had another one set up for an experiment I was doing with Atom proc'ed machines and decent (at the time) video cards (I think they were 500 series) where that poor little Atom couldn't do even one task properly (not sure how many DAYS it said one would take, but it certainly wasn't worth it) so I made a 2nd location and set those to that.

If I remember, it worked properly, will that setting override any of the config files here on this computer? It's been too long since I've messed with this stuff...

*edit* Oh, and if I change it, will it stop accepting new CPU tasks, but complete the ones that have already downloaded? Or will they just sit there never to be completed? I would like to finish what I have, but not download any more new ones. Is there a setting to do what I am attempting?

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Message 1772481 - Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 20:02:43 UTC

*edit* Oh, and if I change it, will it stop accepting new CPU tasks, but complete the ones that have already downloaded?


Yes it will just not download any more CPU tasks but will finish any it has.
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Message 1772484 - Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 20:09:55 UTC - in response to Message 1772481.  
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K, thanks, I'll switch it over now, and restart it.

*edit* looks like it works, now lets see what happens in the RAC dept...

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Message 1773820 - Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 1:42:06 UTC
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Ok, another question. Back when I had started the Farm idea, and before I ran into Dotsch's Lunix setup, I had purchased a number of copies of... Vista Ultimate! Yeah, I know, I know, but I couldn't justify the cost of Win 7 which had only been out for under a year, and people were just _Dumping_ Vista as fast as they could, so being the practical soul I am, I kind of jumped on them.

The actual reason I had even considered using Vista instead of XP was that there was this program called VLite, which basically stripped out a bunch of the crap from Vista, unnecessary stuff that made it a resource hog, and pretty much pared it back to something like Win 2008 server, or so they said. It's now gone, but lives on on the Wayback Machine : https://web.archive.org/web/20140217003315/http://www.vlite.net/changelog.html and https://web.archive.org/web/20120215123547/http://vlite.net/download.html If I remember correctly, it's supposed to work fairly well.

So... here is my question. I remember running into a thread on here the other day, sadly I can't remember which one, that was talking about some new feature which 7 and up supports, but XP and Vista don't. I wish I could remember, but it was a 3 or 4 letter acronym, and I remember it because I thought Hmm, that may make it an issue for me if I want to load up any more machines with the remaining XP64 licenses I have.

The gist of it is, if I am going to be loading up some machines with Vista (and hopefully paring it down using Vlite), are there any issues you can think of (like the one I vaguely remember that I mentioned above) running it? I'd only use the 64 bit version, I'd hope that was a little more efficient than the 32 bit version.

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