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Message 1769843 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:13:31 UTC - in response to Message 1769839.  
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And what the heck? I just noticed that it says I have 16 gig of ram, but I actually have 32 gig, four 8's... I need to look into this because something is whacked about that. Hmmm


Asus boards are really picky about the RAM. You have to make sure the distal ends of the RAM are complete secure down and locked before you lock the top into position.

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That means having to pull the RAM out and reseating it until you get them in there correctly.

Not just pushing down on the distal end. (take it from me, I've had the fun of doing that now several times before I got it down correctly)
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Message 1769844 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:13:39 UTC - in response to Message 1769840.  

You are correct, sir! Went in and counted, device 0,1 and 2 are all running 3 tasks. And the CPU is now running 9 tasks instead of 12, so each GPU has one core available to it.

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Message 1769845 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:18:31 UTC - in response to Message 1769843.  
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And what the heck? I just noticed that it says I have 16 gig of ram, but I actually have 32 gig, four 8's... I need to look into this because something is whacked about that. Hmmm


Asus boards are really picky about the RAM. You have to make sure the distal ends of the RAM are complete secure down and locked before you lock the top into position.

Hmm, I know that this RAM is on their approved list, and I have heard that quite often about ASUS, so I that's why I bought this exact brand/sku, so I wouldn't have any issues.. lol

I did notice that the ram sockets were kind of weird, they only had hold downs on one end instead of both like I am used to. I will have to shut this bad boy down and re-seat them later today, do you know if there is a program that can identify which sockets have RAM recognized, so I'd only have to mess with 2?

Oh, and my 980 is only slightly overclocked via the EVGA PrecisionX program, and I noticed that it shows that the GPU is running at about 78* with the fan running at 100%. Does this seem high to you?

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Message 1769846 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:21:20 UTC - in response to Message 1769844.  

Keep an eye on your times, you might need to cut down on the total number of CPU work units in order to get faster times on the GPUs
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Message 1769847 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:22:30 UTC - in response to Message 1769845.  


I did notice that the ram sockets were kind of weird, they only had hold downs on one end instead of both like I am used to. I will have to shut this bad boy down and re-seat them later today, do you know if there is a program that can identify which sockets have RAM recognized, so I'd only have to mess with 2?

Belarc Advisor is what you want. http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html

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Message 1769848 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:24:02 UTC - in response to Message 1769846.  

Keep an eye on your times, you might need to cut down on the total number of CPU work units in order to get faster times on the GPUs

Will do, and thanks for the link, I'll check it out now.

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Message 1769849 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:25:26 UTC - in response to Message 1769845.  
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I did notice that the ram sockets were kind of weird, they only had hold downs on one end instead of both like I am used to. I will have to shut this bad boy down and re-seat them later today, do you know if there is a program that can identify which sockets have RAM recognized, so I'd only have to mess with 2?

Oh, and my 980 is only slightly overclocked via the EVGA PrecisionX program, and I noticed that it shows that the GPU is running at about 78* with the fan running at 100%. Does this seem high to you?


You can check in your Bios and it should tell you which slots it sees.

As long as they are below 80C I think you are ok. Are you running 980 ACX or reference? What about the 670s? What kind of fans do they have?
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Message 1769850 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:25:54 UTC - in response to Message 1769847.  
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Oh, and any thoughts on which if any Windows Updates _not_ to install? I know about the one that is nagware about the Win 10 upgrade, but any others you're heard of that might be problematic and may be best to just avoid?

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Message 1769851 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:29:06 UTC - in response to Message 1769850.  

This part I can't help you with. I install most except the Nagware ones for Win 10.
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Message 1769852 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:31:40 UTC - in response to Message 1769849.  


I did notice that the ram sockets were kind of weird, they only had hold downs on one end instead of both like I am used to. I will have to shut this bad boy down and re-seat them later today, do you know if there is a program that can identify which sockets have RAM recognized, so I'd only have to mess with 2?

Oh, and my 980 is only slightly overclocked via the EVGA PrecisionX program, and I noticed that it shows that the GPU is running at about 78* with the fan running at 100%. Does this seem high to you?


You can check in your Bios and it should tell you which slots it sees.

As long as they are below 80C I think you are ok. Are you running 980 ACX or reference? What about the 670s? What kind of fans do they have?

CPUz will ID the RAM per slot as well.
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Message 1769855 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:38:13 UTC - in response to Message 1769849.  
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The 670's are the GTX670FTW 2G (02G-P4-2678-B1) and the 980 is the GTX-980Ti (06G-P4-4995-KR)

And I am stuggling to get used to that new style of BIOS, all graphical and everything.. I am much happier with the DOS based style, wish there was a way to toggle between them but, I know, that is so 1990's...

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Message 1769856 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:43:22 UTC

Ah HA!

16286 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

Slot 'DIMM_A1' has 8192 MB
Slot 'DIMM_A2' is Empty
Slot 'DIMM_B1' has 8192 MB
Slot 'DIMM_B2' is Empty
Slot 'DIMM_C1' is Empty
Slot 'DIMM_C2' is Empty
Slot 'DIMM_D1' is Empty
Slot 'DIMM_D2' is Empty

now I know where to start digging, thanks!

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Message 1769859 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 20:47:33 UTC - in response to Message 1769855.  

The 670's are the GTX670FTW 2G (02G-P4-2678-B1) and the 980 is the GTX-980Ti (06G-P4-4995-KR)


That 980Ti has 2 fans on it right? So it's an ACX design.

The issue with those is it sends half of the heat it generates back into your case instead of out.

You are going to need to make sure you have enough fans on your case to move that extra heat out of your case to keep the temps down.
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Message 1769863 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 21:02:14 UTC - in response to Message 1769859.  
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Yep, it does. Not the brightest design, but what do I know, as I would always prefer to vent the hot air outside the case... Right now, the sides are off since I am still messing with it, but it is a pretty good case, a Corsair T760 in white (was all they had, would have preferred it in black but I didn't have time to wait) and has a number of fans, 2 in front, 1 in back besides the PSU, and open on 1/3rd of the top where it isn't covered by the radiator, which also has 2 fans on it.

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Message 1769896 - Posted: 5 Mar 2016, 22:42:38 UTC - in response to Message 1769859.  

You are going to need to make sure you have enough fans on your case to move that extra heat out of your case to keep the temps down.

Or just remove the side of the case.
Dropped my CPU temperatures by 5°c. GPU temps remained about the same, but the fans weren't working nearly as hard.
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Message 1770017 - Posted: 6 Mar 2016, 12:15:07 UTC
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Well, I had a couple system crashes in the last 12 hours or so, I believe the 1st one was because the CPU was still clocked a bit high, going to be backing that one down, and the 2nd because EVGA Precision wasn't set to start with Windows, so the cards must have gotten too hot and did a therma shutdown to protect themselves.

After restarting it to finish up the pile of windows updates this morning, I started up BOINC again, and noticed that the temps were a little higher than I remember after making those changes yesterday. I opened the program to look at what was running, and noticed that all 12 cores were running CPU tasks again, and that each video card was only running one.

Something weird happened when it crashed, I will post the beginning of the log file when it starts up, maybe someone can see something that might have tweeked it and caused it to behave this way.

3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.22 for windows_x86_64
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Running under account Zoom
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 980 Ti (driver version 361.91, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 4096MB, 3065MB available, 6702 GFLOPS peak)
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 670 (driver version 361.91, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 1958MB available, 2915 GFLOPS peak)
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 670 (driver version 361.91, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 1958MB available, 2915 GFLOPS peak)
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 980 Ti (driver version 361.91, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 6144MB, 3065MB available, 6702 GFLOPS peak)
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 670 (driver version 361.91, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 2048MB, 1958MB available, 2915 GFLOPS peak)
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 670 (driver version 361.91, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 2048MB, 1958MB available, 2915 GFLOPS peak)
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Host name: Zoom-PC
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Processor: 12 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5930K CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 63 Stepping 2]
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 vmx tm2 dca pbe fsgsbase bmi1 smep bmi2
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Memory: 15.90 GB physical, 31.81 GB virtual
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Disk: 223.47 GB total, 163.49 GB free
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Local time is UTC -6 hours
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | SETI@home | Found app_config.xml
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | SETI@home | Entry in app_config.xml for app 'astropulse_v7', plan class 'opencl_nvidia_100' doesn't match any app versions
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | | Config: use all coprocessors
3/6/2016 6:14:35 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 7949285; resource share 100
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 03-Apr-2013 23:59:56)
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | | Preferences:
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | | max memory usage when active: 8142.80MB
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 15471.31MB
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | SETI@home | Reporting 2 completed tasks
3/6/2016 6:14:40 AM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU

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Message 1770022 - Posted: 6 Mar 2016, 13:23:22 UTC

Oh, and one other thing, I took the time while it was shut down to reseat the memory, found one that wasn't quite seated properly, and after booting up, it now shows all 4 sticks in Belarc Advisor, and my temps are now down into the mid 40's-50ish. This is probably because I reset the BIOS to run the CPU at it's stock speed, so apparently this is what 'normal' temps are when running BOINC with no overclocking on all 12 cores.

I think I will just leave it this way, maybe bounce it just a tic higher, but I like what I see for temps right now. The biggest thing to me is to get the GPU's processing properly again, 3 tasks each.

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Message 1770026 - Posted: 6 Mar 2016, 14:09:41 UTC - in response to Message 1770022.  
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Al,

Have you turned everything off and rebooted the system since it all crashed?

Sometimes things get corrupted after a crash.

Also, do you run ccleaner?

If after a restart, check again to see what the system is doing.

edit..

Also make bonic manager read your config files again
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Message 1770090 - Posted: 6 Mar 2016, 20:55:24 UTC - in response to Message 1770026.  

I'll shut it down now and see what happens when it comes back up, and let you know.

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Message 1770095 - Posted: 6 Mar 2016, 21:15:55 UTC

Well, rebooted, same thing, had BOINC read files using the commands under the options tab,no difference. Ran CCleaner, restarted BOINC, still running 12 CPU tasks and 3 GPU ones.

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