Did he say something about only places where there aren't people to return fire?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/16/us/bellagio-casino-robbery/index.html

What part of mental case suicide doesn't he understand?

Richard you have been reading this forum long enough to know some posters do not use Boolean logic.

I know that, but I still reserve the right to call out BS when I see it.

I'm so saddened by those who keep insisting the tool is the culprit. The culprit and the ONLY common elements in every mass shooting are a raging hatred of some facet of society, and a target rich environment where the chance of taking return fire is non existent.

ONLY ??!!

Surely the presence of a gun is also a common element?

As are Planes, Trains and Automobiles.

A TOOL is not sentient, a TOOL is an instrument wielded by sentience. It can be wielded for evil as well as good but that is in the hands of the wielder. Firearms have been used to provide food for families and defense of those families. Planes, Trains and Automobiles(and trucks, and knives, and hatchets, and probably there is an incident involving spoons), have been used to heinously maim and end the lives of innocents. They did not act on their own.

Modern healthcare has been prostituted to effect the death of unborn children under the guise of 'essential services'. Does that make healthcare the culprit?

Logic whether Boolean, or plain commonsense, should make plain that the map is not the territory.

It's like calling a shovel 'lazy' because it does not dig a hole on it's own.

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A human being may dig a hole, using a spade. Without access to a spade, or similar implement, the human being has a much harder job to dig said hole with his or her bare hands.

Similarly, the human being can kill one, or many, other human beings by using a gun: if the perpetrator is separated from the gun, their task is again harder.

This thread is about gun laws. If the law separated the guns from the potential perpetrators, fewer people would be killed.

A human being may dig a hole, using a spade. Without access to a spade, or similar implement, the human being has a much harder job to dig said hole with his or her bare hands.

Similarly, the human being can kill one, or many, other human beings by using a gun: if the perpetrator is separated from the gun, their task is again harder.

This thread is about gun laws. If the law separated the guns from the potential perpetrators, fewer people would be killed.

And if all the meteorites were removed from the universe there would be no more mass extinctions.....

...deal with reality. People will always have access to guns, Legally or Illegally the evil will find a way. Is that a reason to deny equal protection from that evil if a person chooses such a path?

That's the way it works here. You can choose to believe a 'gun free zone' sign will protect you or you can choose to actually protect yourself and your loved ones.

That's called 'self reliance'. Many here choose that over 'nanny state'.

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I live in a country which the Law attempts to make a 'gun free zone', with certain legal exceptions and many illegal transgressions. You live in a country which does not even attempt (or desire to attempt) such legislation.

List of countries by firearm-related death rate

USA: 	4.62  homicides per 100,000 population per year
UK: 	0.06  ditto

It makes a difference.

...deal with reality. People will always have access to nuclear weapons, Legally or Illegally the evil will find a way. Is that a reason to deny equal protection from that evil if a person chooses such a path?

That's the way it works here. You can choose to believe a 'nuclear weapon free zone' sign will protect you or you can choose to actually protect yourself and your loved ones.

That's called 'self reliance'. Many here choose that over 'nanny state'.

Others have chosen to grow a spine and not run from shadows.

Apparently some of your fellow EU citizens would 'disagree'.......

Italian gun laws change as leaders push "legitimate defense"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/italian-gun-laws-change-as-leaders-push-legitimate-defense/

By Haley Ott, Seth Doane
March 16, 2019 / 1:11 PM / CBS News
Brescia, Italy -- "Italians make some of the most sought after firearms in the world. For decades they supplied the standard issue pistol of the U.S. military. Domestically, however, few Italians have owned guns for self defense. But now, analysts say a growing sense of insecurity -- and some of the country's new leaders -- are bringing a shift in Italy's gun laws and culture, and despite falling crime rates, more Italians are arming themselves for security."

....an island of reason in a sea of obliviousness.....?

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/italian-gun-laws-change-as-leaders-push-legitimate-defense/

By Haley Ott, Seth Doane
March 16, 2019 / 1:11 PM / CBS News
Brescia, Italy -- "Italians make some of the most sought after firearms in the world. For decades they supplied the standard issue pistol of the U.S. military. Domestically, however, few Italians have owned guns for self defense. But now, analysts say a growing sense of insecurity -- and some of the country's new leaders -- are bringing a shift in Italy's gun laws and culture, and despite falling crime rates, more Italians are arming themselves for security."

What an incoherent news item. I thought CBS was a reputable corporation?

"Italians make some of the most sought after firearms in the world."

Yes, they're capitalists. They want to turn a profit. It they can make it, and if it sells, that's mission accomplished. It could have been a better mousetrap, but they decided to kill humans instead. If it makes a profit, that's OK.

For decades they supplied the standard issue pistol of the U.S. military.

I'm glad the U.S. military procures on quality, not price.

Domestically, however, few Italians have owned guns for self defense.

Very sensible of them.

But now, analysts say a growing sense of insecurity -- and some of the country's new leaders -- are bringing a shift in Italy's gun laws and culture, and despite falling crime rates, more Italians are arming themselves for security.

Against whom? The capitalists? or against the propagandist advertisers?

Domestically, however, few Italians have owned guns for self defense.

Very sensible of them.

Considering they have the franchise on the MOB, very practical to prevent things like the St. Valentine's Day Massacre. Led to the USA adopting gun laws, gun laws that are still in force today. If you want to own a gun like the ones used, buy a tax stamp.

Against whom? The capitalists? or against the propagandist advertisers?

.........in a sea of obliviousness.......

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It seems the US does not want to learn or change. :-(

Democratic Senator Bernie Sanders called for America to follow New Zealand's lead, tweeting: "This is what real action to stop gun violence looks like."
In response, National Rifle Association (NRA) spokeswoman Dana Loesch cited the Second Amendment of the US constitution, which gives Americans the right to carry guns.
"The US isn't NZ," she tweeted. "While they do not have an inalienable right to bear arms and to self defence, we do."

Source

It seems the US does not want to learn or change. :-(

....finally, it's beginning to sink in.........NO INFRINGEMENT......

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It seems the US does not want to learn or change. :-(

....finally, it's beginning to sink in.........NO INFRINGEMENT......

So, full-autos for all then?

(I seem to never get a straight answer on this.) :^)

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Parkland claims another victim.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/03/22/parkland-high-school-shooting-survivor-dies-suicide/3250499002/

Parkland claims another victim.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/03/22/parkland-high-school-shooting-survivor-dies-suicide/3250499002/

Extremely sad, and a growing problem. She was not much younger than many Veterans returning from deployments also suffering PTSD.

Mental health issues need to be addressed in the US, as well as the rest of the world.

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Parkland claims another victim.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/03/22/parkland-high-school-shooting-survivor-dies-suicide/3250499002/

Extremely sad, and a growing problem. She was not much younger than many Veterans returning from deployments also suffering PTSD.

Mental health issues need to be addressed in the US, as well as the rest of the world.

OK, life isn't fair! If I'm right, how does that stack up against the intentions of our Constitution's framers??
Yep we need more guns to solve this problem, right?

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Yep we need more guns to solve this problem, right?

Oh, yes, Socialism on guns, free semi-auto for every American. Your tax dollars at work!

Mental health issues need to be addressed in the US

They do, the rest of the world has socialized medicine and it is being addressed.

What can I say, news of another suicide victim from Parkland, CNN - For the second time in a week, a Parkland student has died in an apparent suicide

"Thoughts and prayers" are never just enough from those power. Action is needed, now.