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JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Silencers (moderators, suppressors) are legal provided it is registered and the owner has passed the BATFE and FBI background checks, and completed the necessary forms. The forms must be accompanied by the payment for the 'tax stamp' required which comes affixed to the Federal approval document which is then presented to the seller/manufacturer as evidence of eligibility for the purchase, and must be maintained in the possession of the legal owner. The process is basically the same for legal ownership of fully automatic weapons. That is FEDERALLY legal. Many States and Counties and local jurisdictions have their own laws and restrictions. Like extended capacity magazines and A/R restrictions what is legal in my town may not be allowed in the next town over. In my particular county prior approval of the Sheriff must be obtained and attached to the BATFE application for purchase of a suppressor. I'm sure there are myriad other requirements in your case being a foreign national bringing such a dangerous object into a peace loving country.......... " : > "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
M5WJF Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 147 Credit: 6,484,657 RAC: 6 |
@JE, perhaps there is no size limit anymore, California's restriction was struck down Federally. In the UK you need to show a Police Issued Firearms or Shotgun Certificate to buy smokeless powders for reloading, and can buy/possess up to 15Kg at a time. If you want to buy Black Powder, then you need a separate Police Issued Explosives Licence. Which might make it a little more difficult to obtain. |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
*peruse planet* yes... but eight years ahead of us so... you know... well done ;) New Zealand of course, puts everyone to shame on that one. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
"Another example of BRITISH Automobile Laws (or lack of...)?"London Mayor Sadiq Khan calls for car control in some areas after ramming attack https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/17/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-calls-car-control/ Wow, what's next? A ban on tins of Sardines? Kippered Herring? Anything sharper than a toilet plunger? "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Anything sharper than a toilet plunger?Ask the NYPD about Abner Louima. |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
Oh p-lease, JE :) There have long been discussions about pedestrianizing parts of London, because traffic congestion is choking not just the air we breathe but causing logistical problems in deliveries of goods and services. The death rates of cyclists on London's roads have started to come down since cycle lanes but whatever the latest push to close off areas to traffic - I expect we'll still be able to get closer to our seat of government than you can, yours, with or without tins of fish ;)"Another example of BRITISH Automobile Laws (or lack of...)?"London Mayor Sadiq Khan calls for car control in some areas after ramming attack |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
What's now happened in London is very much the same that have happened in Stockholm, Berlin, Nice recently. And some more..."Another example of BRITISH Automobile Laws (or lack of...)?"London Mayor Sadiq Khan calls for car control in some areas after ramming attack How to deal with the problem... I suggest Surströmming (fermented herring). A lethal weapon from northern Sweden. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Terrorism, as JE correctly points out, is the problem. Not cars. Terrorism is the symptom. The existence of Religion is the problem. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Does anyone have any realistic proposals to stop fanatical religious and secular ideological terrorism. Without destroying all peoples Right's of Religion, Right's of Political Associations and Freedom of Speech.I think it's possible. Giving ALL people at first an education. Then give ALL people an opportunity to work and giving work. Then there are some more like Affordable housings. Affordable healthcare. Affordable child and elderly care. Hmm. Sounds like I just said the definition what a society (samhälle) basically means ... |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
IMHO. Evil just chooses which ideology, religion or social movement available to commit its evil. You mean evil like the "White Supremacy" in the US for instance like the League of the South? Do they embrace the 2'nd amendment? Of course. Now they even call Russia for assistance! https://leagueofthesouth.com/to-our-russian-friends/ Lynyrd Skynyrd from Florida did this nice song:) Sweet Home Alabama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye5BuYf8q4o |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19075 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
"Another example of BRITISH Automobile Laws (or lack of...)?"London Mayor Sadiq Khan calls for car control in some areas after ramming attack You need to get out more and tour the world and have a look at the defenses around US Embassies. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
look at the defenses around US Embassies. Yup! And why are those defenses needed? Because the 'tune du jour' is HATE AMERICA...........people ALWAYS hate what they are jealous of. I'm sorry anniet missed the sarcasm font but Clyde hit my meaning spot on. OBJECTS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. My car did not leave the garage today and ram anyone. My loaded AR did not go out the front door and shoot anyone. We must treat the illnesses not their implements. And moomin, the one line you should take to heart from Lynyrd Skynyrd's 'Sweet Home Alabama' is "A southern man don't need him around anyhow".........means my biz is my biz and not yo biz... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
M5WJF Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 147 Credit: 6,484,657 RAC: 6 |
Yup! And why are those defenses needed? I'm not jealous mate. Thanks for the explanation of moderator ownership earlier, however, most of that dealt with permission to purchase. I already own these for every rifle (except a .22lr Target Rifle), if a US Citizen visits the UK with their declared Firearms, they have to apply for a Permit, at least six weeks in advance. although certain Firearms are prohibited (a Moderator used on a Firearm is itself a Firearm under British Law), the Police will determine whether a particular Firearm is allowed into the UK. You have to declare any criminal convictions, (they will be checking with your FBI anyway), but if you're found to be lying or fail to mention anything in your application about anything then you will likely be refused entry into the UK, let alone be allowed to bring in any Firearms. Possession of Firearms is a privilege here, and certain convictions, criminal history, or your mental health conditions and history can result in a refusal of an application for possession here by a UK Citizen, and as you will be subject to British Law, if you meet the criteria as a risk to Public Safety, your Permit will be refused. Under a Permit you may possess your own Firearms in the UK, but you will not be allowed to purchase any whilst here, you may bring with you, acquire, or purchase ammunition allowed under Section 1 of the Firearms Act. Under a Shotgun Permit (separately applied for and issued), you may bring with you, acquire, or purchase Shotguns whilst here, in addition you may bring with you, acquire, or purchase ammunition allowed under Section 2 of the Firearms Act, however, you cannot borrow a Shotgun for up to 72 hours as is possible under a Shotgun Certificate. Be sure to read up on the allowed ammunition types here, BEFORE bringing them. You require a UK Resident to act as a Sponsor for your Permit within the Police area you are staying, they are required to submit your application for a Permit to the Police. A Permit costs £20 per person, or no more than £100 to cover a Group of up to 20 people., and can last a year, but the Police might restrict the period that the Permit covers. There's other rules, but those are the main one's. So, £20 for a Permit, and if you already own a Moderator (Silencer), which you will have to declare as a Firearm, there's no charge, or tax. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34850 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
They have every good reason to hate the U.S. because of all the screw ups and killing that has gone on just to give your war machine something to do Eye.look at the defenses around US Embassies. Screaming otherwise will not change the facts of your country's stupidity and their repercussions. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
And moomin, the one line you should take to heart from Lynyrd Skynyrd's 'Sweet Home Alabama' is "A southern man don't need him around anyhow".........means my biz is my biz and not yo biz...I'm not Neil Young:) But America's biz is also very much Sweden's biz. Especially when I can see so many Confederation flags flying over here. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Eh?IMHO. Evil just chooses which ideology, religion or social movement available to commit its evil. :) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Do some anti 2nd amendment groups support policies and government systems that have lead to the worse crimes against humanity?Eh? Now I'm really lost in translation... Could you give me some examples? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
look at the defenses around US Embassies. The are not jealous of America. Stop being a jackass and thinking so high of yourself, you are full of it. They hate America because it f's with their internal government, it refuses to let them govern themselves as they choose. It denies them freedom and oppresses them as a slave master would his property. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
[i]You mean evil like the "White Supremacy" in the US for instance like the League of the South?Still not understand. So you meen that "anti 2nd Amendment Left Wingers " use guns or intimidating others with sometimes open carry to prove their point? |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Still not understand. "So tell me Senator.........when did you stop beating your wife?" "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
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