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Message 1944074 - Posted: 13 Jul 2018, 14:01:29 UTC - in response to Message 1944068.  

The attitude of Americans towards arms should be considered in a historical context.
American history began with the War of Independence.
The conquest of the West was with weapons in hand.
Civil War.
If an American does not have a gun on the wall, he can not sleep peacefully, it's like an acquired reflex, like the dog of Pavlov.
Perfect description of the US.
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Message 1944131 - Posted: 13 Jul 2018, 22:16:34 UTC - in response to Message 1944066.  
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Failure to adapt to changing conditions leads to extinction.

You forget evolution doesn't exist to the right wing

Failure to acknowledge evolution exists also leads to extinction.

.........says the faction that still clings to the Medieval systems of Kings, Queens, Dukes and Duchesses, Titled Nobility and Commoners. Of Government telling the people whats good for them and how best to live.

I think the stagnation of evolution is more apparent in GB and EU than in the country that rejected that way of looking at it's citizens 2 centuries ago and made the decision that The People tell the Government what's good for them and to butt out on how we live our lives.

In the UK, since Charles I we beheaded him, and in Europe our Monarch's have no political authority. Unlike the US that has given King Donald have absolute control on anything he decides to sign.

So who is the backward country?

Obviously the USA.
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Message 1944179 - Posted: 14 Jul 2018, 1:36:46 UTC

Sorry Nick, your House of LORDS and House of COMMONS says it all.

"........please Sir, may I have some more?............"

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Message 1944183 - Posted: 14 Jul 2018, 1:59:13 UTC - in response to Message 1944179.  
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Sorry Nick, your House of LORDS and House of COMMONS says it all.
"........please Sir, may I have some more?............"
Sigh...
House of Lords are not lawmakers in the UK.
It have only the right to postpone legislative proposals decided by the House of Commons for some time.
In what year do you live in?
1789?
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Message 1944184 - Posted: 14 Jul 2018, 2:16:04 UTC - in response to Message 1944183.  
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Sorry Nick, your House of LORDS and House of COMMONS says it all.
"........please Sir, may I have some more?............"
Sigh...
House of Lords are not lawmakers in the UK.
It have only the right to postpone legislative proposals decided by the House of Commons for some time.
In what year do you live in?
1789?

What is the difference between the UK House of Commons and the US House of representatives, both are voted for by the people (commoners) in their districts.
If there is a difference it is that the campaign in the UK is done on a very limited controlled and supervised budget, while in the US it usually comes down to who has the biggest budget and has the support of the NRA.

edit] I would also add that the heads of departments in the UK are usually chosen from elected members of parliament not appointed as in the US, Pruitt et al.
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Message 1944233 - Posted: 14 Jul 2018, 13:22:44 UTC

both are voted for by the people (commoners)
............and that also says it all.........EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN is a 'commoner'..........but we're PROUD of that label.

We're a nation of common people, no King, no Lords and Ladies, no Duke and Duchess of Cleveland, no 'Titled' or 'Knighted' or 'Landed' divisions.

"All men are created EQUAL"..............not some to rule and some to be 'common'.........all common. All free to rise to whatever level of society they choose. How many can 'rise to be King' in your system?

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Message 1944245 - Posted: 14 Jul 2018, 14:13:55 UTC - in response to Message 1944233.  

"All men are created EQUAL"..............not some to rule and some to be 'common'.........all common. All free to rise to whatever level of society they choose. How many can 'rise to be King' in your system?
Sigh again...
You are totally ignorante to how monarky work today in Europe.
Even how it have worked for centuries. Yes. more than 1000 years.
If we take Sweden for instance.
A king was always ELECTED in the old days by the commons. Yes. Like a President today.
And the commons always had the right to EVICT the king if necessary.
For instance Gustav IV Adolf in 1809.
This time the commons ELECTED a French Napolean Marshal instead to be King of Sweden.

Today in the US Trump think he has more power than an european king.
Well, to me Trump act more like a dictator than a king or a president.
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Message 1944249 - Posted: 14 Jul 2018, 14:39:33 UTC - in response to Message 1944246.  

Luckily the US have a Congress:)
And how many are going to vote in the upcoming mid term election in november?
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Message 1944350 - Posted: 14 Jul 2018, 23:52:42 UTC

Luckily the US have a Congress:)
And how many are going to vote in the upcoming mid term election in november?
Not luck, moomin by design. Checks and balances, unfortunately our Congress has lost the ability to see beyond it's own self preservation and has devolved into bickering children.

Throw in the disruption of business by the Russian BS (whether planned or not has been a wedge between Americans) prolonging the belief by some that the Presidency was fraudulently won and you have basically chaos in the Legislature.

Who will be galvanized enough to vote? As in 2016 that is the question and depends on many things. The confirmation battle for Justice nominee Kavanaugh will be one of those factors, if the Dims Resist and Obstruct tactics get as nasty as they're looking a lot of middle road independents may vote the Conservative choice along with former Democrats who have become disaffected by the Marxist/Socialist path the donkeys have taken.

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Message 1944403 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 8:37:42 UTC

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Message 1944493 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 17:47:28 UTC - in response to Message 1944370.  

I interact constantly with Academia, Police, Homeless, Veterans, Union Members, Pro Trump and Anti Trump extended family, etc.
NONE of the underlined are pro/Anti Trump?
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Message 1944535 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 20:05:27 UTC - in response to Message 1944532.  

SO ARE YOU saying that not a single member of those groups voted for or against Trump? Did you see them vote & who they voted for? Have you picked up that book from the library yet?
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Message 1944552 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 20:49:53 UTC - in response to Message 1944548.  

Clyde, this sentence phrase collection of words does not make sense.
I interact constantly with Academia, Police, Homeless, Veterans, Union Members, Pro Trump and Anti Trump extended family, etc.
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Message 1944555 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 20:53:45 UTC - in response to Message 1944552.  

Clyde, this sentence phrase collection of words does not make sense.
I interact constantly with Academia, Police, Homeless, Veterans, Union Members, Pro Trump and Anti Trump extended family, etc.
Nice to see that I'm not the only one to see the error. :-)
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Message 1944557 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 20:56:33 UTC - in response to Message 1944370.  

I have had some, repeating some long time Liberal Democrat and Working Class Democrat voters saying they believe the Democrat Party has abandoned their principles. They have told me they might vote Republican.

Eye as have many Republicans who are totally put off by the reactionary tea wing of the party.
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Message 1944569 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 21:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 1944558.  

Clyde, this sentence phrase collection of words does not make sense.
I interact constantly with Academia, Police, Homeless, Veterans, Union Members, Pro Trump and Anti Trump extended family, etc.

JE... Just my personal observations regarding the upcoming November election.

I interact constantly with Academia, Police, Homeless, Veterans, Union Members, Pro Trump and Anti Trump extended family, etc.

I have had some, repeating some long time Liberal Democrat and Working Class Democrat voters saying they believe the Democrat Party has abandoned their principles. They have told me they might vote Republican.

The present situation appears to be very fluid

Makes no sense? You live in Solitary Confinement?

What are the political leanings of these groups, Academia, Police, Homeless, Veterans, Union Members, I cannot imagine they all have similar views and some of them are usually at odds with each other. As you didn't mention political leanings of those groups why go on to imply your family are not in agreement. This "The present situation appears to be very fluid" should have been the end of that collection of words.

And didn't anybody mention the abandoned principles of the GOP, like free trade, balanced budget, etc.. I'd find it rather odd in such a wide range of people, who are not natural bedfellows, for no one to be critical of the the GOP.
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Message 1944575 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 22:01:58 UTC

This thread seems to have wandered way off topic to general politics and other things that should be in the Donald Trump thread...
Thanks.
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Message 1944762 - Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 16:44:52 UTC - in response to Message 1941696.  

There will be no response from me to anything posted by Vadim in the future.


Then we have something in common.
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