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Message 1990050 - Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 19:21:37 UTC - in response to Message 1990041.  

Wing flaps are at zero?
Does it matter when the pilot didn't stay on the runway?
CCTV Footage : Summit Air 9N-AMH Crash in Lukla Airport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYwqfNqy9GU

Video shows at least one side the flaps were not at zero, other side isn't clear. That might matter.
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Message 1990072 - Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 21:48:42 UTC - in response to Message 1990050.  

Wing flaps are at zero?
Does it matter when the pilot didn't stay on the runway?
CCTV Footage : Summit Air 9N-AMH Crash in Lukla Airport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYwqfNqy9GU
Video shows at least one side the flaps were not at zero, other side isn't clear. That might matter.
A Let L-410 Turbolet is about 15 meters long.
About 30 to 40 meters after the plane started to accelerate it start to turn right.
Can flaps really be the cause to what happened?
Or problem with the nose wheel perhaps?
Some witness said that the plane had problem with the rudder...
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Message 1990097 - Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 1:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 1990072.  

Wing flaps are at zero?
Does it matter when the pilot didn't stay on the runway?
CCTV Footage : Summit Air 9N-AMH Crash in Lukla Airport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYwqfNqy9GU
Video shows at least one side the flaps were not at zero, other side isn't clear. That might matter.
A Let L-410 Turbolet is about 15 meters long.
About 30 to 40 meters after the plane started to accelerate it start to turn right.
Can flaps really be the cause to what happened?
Or problem with the nose wheel perhaps?
Some witness said that the plane had problem with the rudder...

If you want to speculate off the video it looks like the plane bounced pretty good just at it was beginning to transition from the flat threshold to the downhill runway. If the nose wheel left the ground, can't tell, then it may well matter as there is essentially no steering input from the rudder that slow. If there were crosswinds or a wind gust it is all over. If there is differential drag on the wings because one flap is down and one isn't, it is all over. Of course if a control cable snapped, it is all over. The video does show that before the takeoff roll there was nose wheel control. Another possibility is a wheel brake on one side of the plane not completely releasing when the pilot lifted his toes.

This one is going to need to take the parts and put them under the microscope.

The full video may show more such as a controls free and clear and rigged correctly check.
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Message 1991602 - Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 22:04:34 UTC

Not strictly transportation, but worth a look, if only for the lack of thought by everybody concerned.
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Message 1992559 - Posted: 4 May 2019, 8:38:45 UTC

"The plane literally hit the ground and bounced - it was clear the pilot did not have total control of the plane, it bounced again," she said.
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Message 1992592 - Posted: 4 May 2019, 15:19:20 UTC - in response to Message 1992559.  

"The plane literally hit the ground and bounced - it was clear the pilot did not have total control of the plane, it bounced again," she said.
Boeing 737 goes for a swim

A passenger plane slid off a runway in the US state of Florida on Friday night, ending up in a river after landing during a thunderstorm.

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Message 1992593 - Posted: 4 May 2019, 15:37:33 UTC

Wind-shear and cross-winds during landing can make life "quite exiting", add to the mix a half decent thunderstorm and multiple contacts with the tarmac can be expected.
All very well if one enjoys roller coaster rides, but otherwise no so much fun.
I've had a couple of approaches where the plane has been hit by a sudden crosswind just before the tyres hit the runway, and both have resulted in go-arounds, and one that was just after the tyres hit the runway and we used the whole width before the pilot got things back in order, and that wasn't in a particularly violent storm so I can well see how a neo-tropical storm can cause multiple bumps on the runway followed by departing the tarmac for whatever is nearby.
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Message 1992596 - Posted: 4 May 2019, 16:25:09 UTC
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Ontario CA has a major airport, it's a very windy location which is below a mountain pass and the airport is in My opinion a lousy location. If you don't like winds, don't go there.

Right now LAX's ground radar is out once again, the two ground radar towers(Pic) have been in operation since the 1990's without replacement, this was on KABC in LA, the towers have to be climbed by an FAA repair guy cause the elevator has not been certified to carry a human in a few years.

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Eyewitness News has learned that a critical Los Angeles International Airport radar system that's meant to help prevent planes from colliding on the tarmac has failed on a routine basis over the last 18 months.

The radar system is known as the ASDE-X and when it breaks down, the screen air traffic controllers use to help track aircraft and vehicles on the ground goes blank.

A whistleblower air traffic controller at LAX tells Eyewitness News that the repeated failures of the ASDE-X system is "a disaster waiting to happen."

"For days or weeks at a time we are left without a necessary piece of safety equipment," the controller says. "At LAX, the entire airport community is not visible from the tower and the ASDE-X is our eyes."

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Message 1992606 - Posted: 4 May 2019, 19:16:03 UTC - in response to Message 1992593.  

Wind-shear and cross-winds during landing can make life "quite exiting", add to the mix a half decent thunderstorm and multiple contacts with the tarmac can be expected.
All very well if one enjoys roller coaster rides, but otherwise no so much fun.
I've had a couple of approaches where the plane has been hit by a sudden crosswind just before the tyres hit the runway, and both have resulted in go-arounds, and one that was just after the tyres hit the runway and we used the whole width before the pilot got things back in order, and that wasn't in a particularly violent storm so I can well see how a neo-tropical storm can cause multiple bumps on the runway followed by departing the tarmac for whatever is nearby.

Quite, and flying into a microburst as frequently accompany thunderstorms is suicide. Wait for the weather to be better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_191
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Message 1992752 - Posted: 5 May 2019, 23:32:13 UTC - in response to Message 1992606.  

'Thrust reverser' broken on plane that slid into Florida river
(Reuters) - A component meant to slow an aircraft on landing was inoperative on the Boeing jetliner that slid off a runway into a river at a Florida military base, injuring 22 people, investigators said on Sunday.

The failure of the left-hand “thrust reverser” on the Boeing 737-800 was one of the factors investigators were looking at, as well as a request by the pilots to change runways, said National Transportation Safety Board Vice Chairman Bruce Landsberg.
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Message 1992858 - Posted: 6 May 2019, 20:04:26 UTC

Transportation safety also include passenger behaviours that the Moscow jet crash landing yesterday shows.
Sources to Russian news agency Interfax say some passengers did not want to evacuate the burning plane without first gathering their hand luggage.
https://youtu.be/pP9-NdeaygA?t=14
Perhaps a system should be introduced so that the luggage compartments locks when an emergency landing begins.
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Message 1992877 - Posted: 6 May 2019, 22:36:41 UTC - in response to Message 1992866.  
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Many people do very, very, very stupid actions regarding their safety. Just our human condition when faced with death.
The possibility that passengers would stupidly remain while attempting to break open locked compartments should not be dismissed.
True that we act stupid in these situations. But those in the front rows on the plane didn't seem to panic so much. Some of those survivors even used their mobiles to show when the plane in flames was skidding on the tarmac.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oXNlV_AfT0
And those who first escaped the plane with their luggage didn't seem to panic as well.
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Message 1994038 - Posted: 17 May 2019, 17:00:38 UTC

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Message 1995134 - Posted: 25 May 2019, 5:40:02 UTC

Two hurt after plane crashes into house
Jamillah Foster was inside the house when the plane crashed into the front of her house. She told the AP no one in the house or outside on the ground was injured.

The plane’s occupants were taken to a hospital. Their identities and conditions are not known, but Foster said both appeared to be alert.

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Message 1997943 - Posted: 12 Jun 2019, 19:12:26 UTC

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Message 1997997 - Posted: 13 Jun 2019, 4:57:28 UTC

A company I would avoid if flying in the US- It wasn't a case of not fixing a fault, working around it & then ignoring it all together.
FAA proposes $715,438 civil penalty against Allegiant Air

The EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) exceeded normal limits on take off,
When this occurs, the MD-80 maintenance manual calls for turning off the automatic reverse thrust system, finding the cause of the excess temperature, and correcting the cause before turning the system on again.
Allegiant, however, did not determine the cause of the excess temperature, the FAA alleges. Instead, the carrier deactivated the system on April 14, 2018, and installed an inoperative placard on it.
Between April 14, 2018, and April 22, 2018, Allegiant operated the MD-88 on 28 passenger-carrying flights without determining the cause of the excessive engine exhaust gas temperature, the FAA alleges...

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Message 1998333 - Posted: 15 Jun 2019, 20:14:35 UTC

Now I find that you have to look out for golf carts.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1139697841457119232
Yesterday at US Open, Pebble Beech, CA.
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Message 1998645 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 5:55:04 UTC

From The July 2019 Atlantic magazine:
What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane (Flight MH370)

Five years ago, the flight vanished into the Indian Ocean. Officials on land know more about why than they dare to say.

.... The idea that a sophisticated machine, with its modern instruments and redundant communications, could simply vanish seemed beyond the realm of possibility.

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Message 1999538 - Posted: 25 Jun 2019, 7:59:25 UTC

After 35 years, bottleneck gone. :-)
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