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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30698 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367 An attack by knife-wielding men at a railway station in Kunming in south-west China has left at least 29 dead, the state news agency Xinhua says. 29 dead 130 wounded by knife v.s. 14 dead 17 wounded by semi-automatic assault rifle. Where is the call for knife control? |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367 Here you go, Gary. Terrorist knife attack: ‘This is for Syria’: ‘Machete-wielding’ man attacks London tube, police probing terrorist incident I am thankful this lunatic didn't have an assault rifle. Reality Internet Personality |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367 So 29 deaths with a knife isnt enough? [/quote] Old James |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367 I don't understand what your point is. Reality Internet Personality |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367 My point is one guy with a primitive knife killed 29 people. that is more than the two terrorist killed with Your so called assualt rifles. And by defintion they were not assault rifles. [/quote] Old James |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Gary had to go back a year for that attack. How far to we have to go back to find a mass shooting in America? Unless maybe you are suggesting that Americans are just more violent than other countries? The knife attack in England happened today. Its a very recent example of a mass stabbing. Nothing to do with "not being enough for me". A comment I found really distasteful to be honest. Be defensive about guns all your want, its much easier and quicker to kill people with a gun than a knife. Which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone because that is what they are designed for. If knives were so dangerous, we would arm our soldiers with them and that would be enough. People can be killed with knives. More people can be killed with guns. Reality Internet Personality |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
29 dead 130 wounded by knife v.s. 14 dead 17 wounded by semi-automatic assault rifle. To point out the obvious 159 victims / 29 dead = 82% of people live when a knife is used 31 victims / 14 dead = 55% of people live when a gun is used You have far more chance of living if a knife is used compared to a gun almost 28% better chance of living Forrest Gump principal in action again tell yourself lies so you don't have to deal with the problem and do the correct thing How selfish is it that the needs of the many are out way by the needs of the one Now get your story's right when you turn up at the pearly gates and St Peter ask you what did you do to stop all the gun murders . "It's in our constitution " to bear arms so I didn't do anything . "GO STRAIGHT TO HELL DO NOT PASS GO" he will shout at you And you call your self Christians or Catholic's . Yeh ok if you say so |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
It was a terrorist attack here. They wanted to die for the cause. And the truth is coming out they had someone else buy the weapons. Which is a felony offense. And I still say open up the medical files of anyone wanting to buy a firearm. But those files cant be opend. Its the law. [/quote] Old James |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
It was a terrorist attack here. They wanted to die for the cause. And the truth is coming out they had someone else buy the weapons. Which is a felony offense. Well there you have it James , there is only one thing you can do now BAN all Assault rifles . You can't kill many people with a hand gun or a bolt action rifle and if you do ban them you will still be able to have a gun for personal protection and you won't need to change the constitution or do background checks or have licences . Shore it won't stop all the murders but gun control was never about banning all guns it's about limiting the damage they do to a minimum |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367 Reminds me of this. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33905334 Yes. Knifes are as deadly as guns. But it takes balls to use them. Not like a gun where you just have to pull the trigger! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js-YqJ36fkA BTW Minister for foreign affairs Anna Lindh. Stabbed in a shopping mall in central Stockholm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Lindh |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
It was a terrorist attack here. They wanted to die for the cause. And the truth is coming out they had someone else buy the weapons. Which is a felony offense. Well no, its about taking the nut cases off the streets and keeping them off the steets. Its about makeing mental health records as transparent as criminal records are mandated to be. The US jails more folks for minor drug possesion, While at the same time we let nut jobs walk the streets. [/quote] Old James |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19103 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Well no, its about taking the nut cases off the streets and keeping them off the steets. You do realise that is a very large group of people. The UK health people and the WHO say that in any one year up to 25% of the population will have mental health problems. And that about 40% of the population will have at least one period of mental health problems in their lifetime. At any one time, there are about 450 million people diagnosed with mental health problems in the World. About 30% of countries have no mental health policy, and another 40% spend less that 1% of their health budget on mental health. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30698 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Well no, its about taking the nut cases off the streets and keeping them off the steets. Yes it is a lot of people. But a lot of people believe a mythical man in the sky is real too. You realize that crazy's in the USA instead of being in some form of medical treatment as they are in the UK, in the USA they are in the penal system, but only after they have had the break and injure someone. America has a crazy control problem, which it needs to address. I don't think people for civilized countries can believe that the standard to get mental treatment in America is to be so utterly insane you have to hurt someone to get treatment. Then of course it isn't available in prison. Danger to yourself or others, well that can't know about others unless the crazy actually does something. As to the yourself, if you are aware enough to know how to dumpster dive behind grocery stores and restaurants you are sane. Then there is the problem of HIPPA, which prevents mental illness being reported to a database to prevent firearms purchases. This needs to change yesterday. And that isn't a gun control law! It is a medical health law amendment. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
... America has a crazy control problem, which it needs to address. Having seen their stubbornness regarding sensible gun control, I can only agree. Reality Internet Personality |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
... America has a crazy control problem, which it needs to address. or just interpret it properly. 300,000,000 guns in the possession of the American people. There is your problem right there. A Cultural Belief in the 'Right of The People' (Given to them by "The laws of nature and of nature's God") to defend themselves from any Power. In this day and age there are better and more effective ways of defending yourself from any power than owning a gun. Reality Internet Personality |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I don't own a gun, and am not interested in getting one. Guns for home and personal protection have always seemed dangerous and paranoid to me. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
It's crazy, you go to jail for buying a joint, but you can buy a machine gun anywhere! I get it, but I don't understand it. edit: People wonder why I have stayed out of the republic for forty years.... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Taurus PT 24/7. That's a gun that make you feel safe 24/7. Make sure that you clean the weapon before you tuck it in under your pillow before you go to sleep. Then next morning you probably will say "I love the smell of gun powder in the morning":) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30698 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
300,000,000 guns in the possession of the American people. Yes, it needs to go up much higher! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/ Premeditated mass shootings in public places are happening more often, some researchers say, plunging towns and cities into grief and riveting the attention of a horrified nation. In general, though, fewer Americans are dying as a result of gun violence — a shift that began about two decades ago. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19103 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
300,000,000 guns in the possession of the American people. What about the suicide rate? |
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