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Message 1711395 - Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 12:25:16 UTC

More than 1.000 refugees a day now arriving in Greece. A crisis within a crisis.
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Message 1711405 - Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 12:50:37 UTC - in response to Message 1711395.  
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More than 1.000 refugees a day now arriving in Greece. A crisis within a crisis.


Something like 140,000 already this year. Doctors treating their physical complaints are saying they're all in desperate need of counselling, particularly the kiddies :-( Sounds like refugees to me. To call them anything other than that is a disgrace.
We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Apart from pain. And maybe humiliation. And obviously death. And failure. But apart from fear, pain and humiliation, failure and the unknown and death - we have nothing to fear. Who’s with me?
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Message 1711446 - Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 15:02:56 UTC
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Someone Replaced The Word 'Jew' With The Word 'Migrant' In Hitler Quotes And Put Them On Daily Mail Articles

I think people should be very careful about otherising refugees. These are desperate people that need help.
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Message 1711500 - Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 3:13:04 UTC - in response to Message 1711446.  

Someone Replaced The Word 'Jew' With The Word 'Migrant' In Hitler Quotes And Put Them On Daily Mail Articles

I think people should be very careful about otherising refugees. These are desperate people that need help.

Humans are humans, those that can't accept that belong in Spandau!
Mr. Cameron, tear down this fence.
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Message 1711507 - Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 3:43:03 UTC

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Nazism is to choose not to become a Nazi!


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Message 1711669 - Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 11:07:46 UTC
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Sweden's foreign minister, Margot Wallström, recently told The Local: “What if we lived in a war zone? We would also want to flee somewhere safe with our children, or try to secure a future elsewhere. It has to do with whether or not we are serious in the EU about our guiding principles – this will affect our credibility.”
http://www.thelocal.se/20150812/refugees-shun-sweden-over-long-waiting-times
“Half of all refugees in the world are children and a lot of them come to Europe. The number of children coming to Sweden is connected to the number of children in all of Europe rising dramatically,”

Sixty missing in new migrant shipwreck.
http://www.thelocal.it/20150812/sixty-missing-in-new-migrant-shipwreck
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Message 1711689 - Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 12:30:03 UTC
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On this video footage some Russian kids treat immigrant workers from Southern ex Soviet republics as low as they can.
https://youtu.be/dZ1gnEnZtSU
"Where are you from? Where were you born? In Tajikistan? Then this is your present from Russia (slaps in a face)". The kid is really young, probably ten or twelve old but bullies a whole bunch of migrant workers, who often treated as slaves as they don't have necessary papers to work and value their income too much to go to police. And that's not only trouble for migrant workers in Russia:
Sometimes there are classifieds being posted in Russian cities saying "Would sell asians". Illegal migrant workers being sold as commodity in Russia.
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Message 1711693 - Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 12:49:00 UTC
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Some heartening news. Former British soldier is attempting to assist Afghan interpretors - stranded in the camps in Calais - into Britain. These were men promised protection by the British Government during the war in Afghanistan and then abandoned. All visa and asylum requests have been denied, even when their services were made use of by Prime Ministers.

Good man. I wish them all well.
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Message 1711711 - Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 13:53:29 UTC - in response to Message 1711693.  

Some heartening news. Former British soldier is attempting to assist Afghan interpretors - stranded in the camps in Calais - into Britain. These were men promised protection by the British Government during the war in Afghanistan and then abandoned. All visa and asylum requests have been denied, even when their services were made use of by Prime Ministers.

Good man. I wish them all well.

There are more cases:(
Former local interpreters who risked their lives working for the British military in Afghanistan have lost their high court challenge to a government assistance scheme they say unlawfully discriminates against them.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/08/uk-court-rejects-afghan-interpreters-discrimination-claims
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Message 1712387 - Posted: 13 Aug 2015, 17:26:27 UTC

Facts. Refugees in Greece
• 124,000 refugees have arrived in Greece so far this year, an increase of 750 percent compared to 2014. On average, 1,200 refugees a day just to Athens.
• On the small island of Lesbos, with a population of 86,000 people, 35,462 refugees arrived so far this year. Lesbos residents renovate on their own initiative and for their own money abandoned buildings and factories to provide the new arrivals shelter.
• On Tuesday took the Greek police to fire extinguishers and batons against migrants on the tourist island of Kos, after the riot occurred in a stadium where hundreds of people, including children, were waiting for immigration papers.
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Message 1712797 - Posted: 14 Aug 2015, 12:11:34 UTC

An asylum seeker has been discovered alive in the hold of a plane that landed at Stockholm's Arlanda airport on Friday morning, after smuggling himself on to an Ethiopian Airlines flight from Addis Ababa.
http://www.thelocal.se/20150814/man-found-alive-in-stockholm-plane-hold
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Message 1716434 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 13:00:08 UTC
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Welcome to Europe!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34014353

btw. In 2040 there will be 1 billion more people in Africa.
In 2100 yet another 1 billion.
https://twitter.com/worldbankdata/status/632341186649411585
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Message 1716516 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 16:00:28 UTC - in response to Message 1716487.  

Quicker to fly :-)

Indeed.
And you don't have to see the riff raff (migrants)...
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Message 1716808 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 3:58:22 UTC

From another thread http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77996&postid=1716597
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Whats common now is the migration problems in the US and EU.
In EU that is biggest challenge ever how to tackle that.
The US also have that problem but not in such degree that we are facing now.

We used to face a much larger issue in that matter than EU does today. We passed NAFTA, much to the hate of many, and there was a giant sucking sound heard around the continent. Massive numbers of illegals in the USA were sucked and vacuumed back to their home countries where they now could find employment that paid enough to live. So much so that México now has the issue the USA had. Its jobs pay so much more than those of many Central American countries it is being over run with illegals. So there is an answer to any immigration crises. Give them good jobs where they are, and they stay put. Kind of a, well, duh! answer.
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Message 1716830 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 5:59:19 UTC

there is one thing they can do shut down the chunnel , then it's only the boats , ferries to worry about .

Few more customs people a few more x-ray machines fer cars and trucks , no prob's

have a policy of "turn back" of boats without paperwork it be in English waters , criky if we can look after 20,000 + klm of coast i'm shore you lot can mange a 1,000
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Message 1716891 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 12:23:03 UTC - in response to Message 1716808.  

So there is an answer to any immigration crises. Give them good jobs where they are, and they stay put. Kind of a, well, duh! answer.

Of course.
But, there is always a but, there is a population growth in Africa. Not in South America.
In only 15 years there will be one billion more Africans.
That's a LOT of job to create!
Any solutions?
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Message 1717057 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 22:37:55 UTC - in response to Message 1716891.  

Birth control? Sooner or later, it has to be strongly considered - globally!
Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive!
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Message 1717061 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 22:48:09 UTC - in response to Message 1717057.  

Birth control? Sooner or later, it has to be strongly considered - globally!

It better be before we warm more than 2.0C and that means yesterday.
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Message 1717065 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 22:54:16 UTC - in response to Message 1717057.  

Birth control? Sooner or later, it has to be strongly considered - globally!

Birth control doesn't work when people are poor.
It is "only" Africa and Asia that have a population growth.
The solution is to stop poverty.
How?

How can we make sense of it all.
http://www.gapminder.org/videos/dont-panic-the-facts-about-population/
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