Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3)

Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3)
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 28 · 29 · 30 · 31 · 32 · 33 · 34 . . . 53 · Next

AuthorMessage
Мишель
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Nov 13
Posts: 3073
Credit: 87,868
RAC: 0
Netherlands
Message 1694878 - Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 21:43:57 UTC - in response to Message 1694852.  

Doesn't take much, there are a few in my lab who burst into tears at the slightest provocation.
That's not sexist, it's a fact. They're the exception rather than the majority, but as it happens, we're exactly gender balanced at the moment (19 of each), and i've yet to see any of the men crying.
People need to be more thick-skinned.

Behold the toxic masculinity in action. Men don't cry as much because men are told they aren't really men if they do. Perhaps if men were allowed to experience emotions like actual human beings, they would cry a bit more often as well, and it wouldn't be a problem.
ID: 1694878 · Report as offensive
Profile Es99
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 23 Aug 05
Posts: 10872
Credit: 350,402
RAC: 0
Canada
Message 1694923 - Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 23:44:14 UTC - in response to Message 1694878.  

Doesn't take much, there are a few in my lab who burst into tears at the slightest provocation.
That's not sexist, it's a fact. They're the exception rather than the majority, but as it happens, we're exactly gender balanced at the moment (19 of each), and i've yet to see any of the men crying.
People need to be more thick-skinned.

Behold the toxic masculinity in action. Men don't cry as much because men are told they aren't really men if they do. Perhaps if men were allowed to experience emotions like actual human beings, they would cry a bit more often as well, and it wouldn't be a problem.

Actually, its not even that. I work with a lot of women and I've literally never seen one cry. So the real question is, what is going on is Simon's workplace that reduces women to tears so often? The reality is, women rarely ever cry for no reason.

Sounds like there is a bad working environment that urgently needs to be addressed.
Reality Internet Personality
ID: 1694923 · Report as offensive
Profile Clyde "Liberal" Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 15267
Credit: 45,319,484
RAC: 797
United States
Message 1694984 - Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 5:33:06 UTC - in response to Message 1694878.  

Doesn't take much, there are a few in my lab who burst into tears at the slightest provocation.
That's not sexist, it's a fact. They're the exception rather than the majority, but as it happens, we're exactly gender balanced at the moment (19 of each), and i've yet to see any of the men crying.
People need to be more thick-skinned.

Behold the toxic masculinity in action. Men don't cry as much because men are told they aren't really men if they do. Perhaps if men were allowed to experience emotions like actual human beings, they would cry a bit more often as well, and it wouldn't be a problem.

What is the attribution of why most men do not cry, as often as women.

Personal opinion, or Science?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton
ID: 1694984 · Report as offensive
Мишель
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Nov 13
Posts: 3073
Credit: 87,868
RAC: 0
Netherlands
Message 1695053 - Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 8:29:01 UTC - in response to Message 1694923.  

Actually, its not even that. I work with a lot of women and I've literally never seen one cry. So the real question is, what is going on is Simon's workplace that reduces women to tears so often? The reality is, women rarely ever cry for no reason.

Sounds like there is a bad working environment that urgently needs to be addressed.

Well it could be both. If the work environment is hostile, its not unlikely that it affects men as well. Who are then denied a healthy emotional outlet because 'men don't cry'.
ID: 1695053 · Report as offensive
Profile Clyde "Liberal" Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 15267
Credit: 45,319,484
RAC: 797
United States
Message 1695161 - Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 14:40:36 UTC - in response to Message 1695053.  
Last modified: 24 Jun 2015, 14:41:34 UTC

Actually, its not even that. I work with a lot of women and I've literally never seen one cry. So the real question is, what is going on is Simon's workplace that reduces women to tears so often? The reality is, women rarely ever cry for no reason.

Sounds like there is a bad working environment that urgently needs to be addressed.

Well it could be both. If the work environment is hostile, its not unlikely that it affects men as well. Who are then denied a healthy emotional outlet because 'men don't cry'.

The above is 'Food for Thought'.

If a man cries at work: Would there be negative attitudes regarding him?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton
ID: 1695161 · Report as offensive
Profile Es99
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 23 Aug 05
Posts: 10872
Credit: 350,402
RAC: 0
Canada
Message 1695166 - Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 15:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 1695053.  

Actually, its not even that. I work with a lot of women and I've literally never seen one cry. So the real question is, what is going on is Simon's workplace that reduces women to tears so often? The reality is, women rarely ever cry for no reason.

Sounds like there is a bad working environment that urgently needs to be addressed.

Well it could be both. If the work environment is hostile, its not unlikely that it affects men as well. Who are then denied a healthy emotional outlet because 'men don't cry'.

Agreed. Men and women get just as upset as each other, the acceptable ways of expressing it are just different. Unfortunately for men, crying is actually good for you as it rebalances the chemicals in your body and is cathartic.

I hope Simon is ok as it does sound like he is not working in a healthy place.
Reality Internet Personality
ID: 1695166 · Report as offensive
Profile Es99
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 23 Aug 05
Posts: 10872
Credit: 350,402
RAC: 0
Canada
Message 1702389 - Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 3:31:29 UTC

The Indian sanitary pad revolutionary
Really interesting story about how something so simple can change lives.
Reality Internet Personality
ID: 1702389 · Report as offensive
Profile Clyde "Liberal" Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 15267
Credit: 45,319,484
RAC: 797
United States
Message 1702518 - Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 14:56:45 UTC - in response to Message 1695166.  

Actually, its not even that. I work with a lot of women and I've literally never seen one cry. So the real question is, what is going on is Simon's workplace that reduces women to tears so often? The reality is, women rarely ever cry for no reason.

Sounds like there is a bad working environment that urgently needs to be addressed.

Well it could be both. If the work environment is hostile, its not unlikely that it affects men as well. Who are then denied a healthy emotional outlet because 'men don't cry'.

Agreed. Men and women get just as upset as each other, the acceptable ways of expressing it are just different. Unfortunately for men, crying is actually good for you as it rebalances the chemicals in your body and is cathartic.

I hope Simon is ok as it does sound like he is not working in a healthy place.

Cultural or DNA?

Doesn't make any difference, regarding treating Women as 'Incapable', because of any tears.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton
ID: 1702518 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 9882
Credit: 7,395,941
RAC: 91
United Kingdom
Message 1704095 - Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 19:38:21 UTC

Cultural or DNA?

Or a game of dominance?

Or a game of trying to hide ignorance?...


Beaten blokes HATE the women who frag them in online games

... ploughed through recordings of 163 games of Halo 3 played on Xbox Live by 189 individuals, recording how losers interacted with winners.

...

What they found probably won't surprise anyone: “low-skilled” males were submissive towards male-voiced teammates, but hostile towards females.

It's all about status, the study suggested. When beaten, losers tried to protect their status (what was left of it)...

... On the other hand, winners take the opportunity to be nice to female players – and (although the study doesn't put it this way) preen: “Higher-skilled players, in contrast, were more positive towards a female relative to a male teammate ... in an attempt to support and garner a female player's attention”...

... The researchers concluded: “By demonstrating that female-directed hostility primarily originates from low-status, poorer-performing males, our results suggest that a way to counter it may be through teaching young males that losing to the opposite sex is not socially debilitating.”




And scarily that mirrors some of the real world...

Here's hoping we can win the war of educating the ignorant for a better world for ALL.


All in our only one world,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1704095 · Report as offensive
Profile Clyde "Liberal" Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 15267
Credit: 45,319,484
RAC: 797
United States
Message 1704118 - Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 21:01:47 UTC

Here's hoping we can win the war of educating the ignorant for a better world for ALL.

They (different Cultures, Peoples, Religions, etc.) will never accept your 'Education'.

You do understand 'The Ignorant' believe it is you, which needs 'Education'.

Doesn't matter who is correct.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton
ID: 1704118 · Report as offensive
Profile janneseti
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Oct 09
Posts: 14106
Credit: 655,366
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1704123 - Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 21:21:53 UTC

For once last year Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to something important.
Education!
The Nobel Peace Prize 2014 was awarded jointly to Kailash Satyarthi and Malala Yousafzai "for their struggle against the suppression of children and young people and for the right of all children to education".
ID: 1704123 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 20964
Credit: 2,905,803
RAC: 654
Ireland
Message 1704745 - Posted: 24 Jul 2015, 23:01:04 UTC - in response to Message 1704123.  

For that to have any meaning, this needs to be stopped

Couple of points need answering...

1: "The court heard evidence from both victims, who came from troubled backgrounds."

2: "On behalf of the council, I would also like to apologise to both of them for letting them down during this period in their lives."

Sorry is just not good enough!
ID: 1704745 · Report as offensive
Profile Es99
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 23 Aug 05
Posts: 10872
Credit: 350,402
RAC: 0
Canada
Message 1705339 - Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 19:11:10 UTC

ID: 1705339 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 9882
Credit: 7,395,941
RAC: 91
United Kingdom
Message 1705421 - Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 23:51:04 UTC

Here's hopefully some very high profile impetus to move away from some of the old misogynistic ways:


Barack Obama in Kenya: 'no excuse' for treating women as second-class citizens

* ‘Just because something is part of your past doesn’t make it right’, Obama says

* Rousing address in Nairobi also offers insight into his African heritage


... Obama earned vociferous applause from 4,500 Kenyans at a sports arena in the capital, Nairobi, by throwing down the gauntlet over the rights of women and girls. He gave short shrift to those in Africa who hide behind arguments defending tradition and culture against values they say are imposed by the west. Considering his heritage, it was a case he could make better than any previous US president.

“Every country and every culture has traditions that are unique and help make that country what it is, but just because something is part of your past doesn’t make it right; it doesn’t mean it defines your future,” Obama said, citing the recent debate in America over the Confederate flag.

“Around the world there is a tradition of oppressing women and treating them differently and not giving them the same opportunities, and husbands beating their wives, and children not being sent to school. Those are traditions. Treating women and girls as second-class citizens. Those are bad traditions. They need to change.”...




All in our only one world,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1705421 · Report as offensive
Profile Clyde "Liberal" Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 15267
Credit: 45,319,484
RAC: 797
United States
Message 1705471 - Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 5:43:38 UTC

“Around the world there is a tradition of oppressing women and treating them differently and not giving them the same opportunities, and husbands beating their wives, and children not being sent to school. Those are traditions. Treating women and girls as second-class citizens. Those are bad traditions. They need to change.”...

What if the Jihadists win?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton
ID: 1705471 · Report as offensive
OzzFan Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 02
Posts: 15681
Credit: 81,554,257
RAC: 21,654
United States
Message 1705768 - Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 22:07:15 UTC - in response to Message 1705471.  

“Around the world there is a tradition of oppressing women and treating them differently and not giving them the same opportunities, and husbands beating their wives, and children not being sent to school. Those are traditions. Treating women and girls as second-class citizens. Those are bad traditions. They need to change.”...

What if the Jihadists win?


What if fundamental Christians win? What if orthodox Judaism wins? The answer seems the same to me.
ID: 1705768 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 25509
Credit: 49,368,088
RAC: 21,375
United States
Message 1705782 - Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 22:36:44 UTC - in response to Message 1705768.  

“Around the world there is a tradition of oppressing women and treating them differently and not giving them the same opportunities, and husbands beating their wives, and children not being sent to school. Those are traditions. Treating women and girls as second-class citizens. Those are bad traditions. They need to change.”...

What if the Jihadists win?


What if fundamental Christians win? What if orthodox Judaism wins? The answer seems the same to me.

I believe the answer is the same if any fundamental Abrahamist sect wins, because there is no difference between any of them.
ID: 1705782 · Report as offensive
Profile Clyde "Liberal" Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 15267
Credit: 45,319,484
RAC: 797
United States
Message 1705845 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 3:37:38 UTC - in response to Message 1705782.  
Last modified: 28 Jul 2015, 3:39:09 UTC

“Around the world there is a tradition of oppressing women and treating them differently and not giving them the same opportunities, and husbands beating their wives, and children not being sent to school. Those are traditions. Treating women and girls as second-class citizens. Those are bad traditions. They need to change.”...

What if the Jihadists win?


What if fundamental Christians win? What if orthodox Judaism wins? The answer seems the same to me.

I believe the answer is the same if any fundamental Abrahamist sect wins, because there is no difference between any of them.

No difference?

Laugh, laugh,laugh, laugh...

Awaiting Fundamentalist Christians Rapings, Crucifixions, Beheadings, etc.

Gary...

This Atheist prays people, who believes as you. Do not gain any power.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton
ID: 1705845 · Report as offensive
Мишель
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Nov 13
Posts: 3073
Credit: 87,868
RAC: 0
Netherlands
Message 1705913 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 10:24:03 UTC - in response to Message 1705471.  

What if the Jihadists win?

When have they ever won?

Their fight is with history, and its a fight they can't win. You can't stop human progress, you can only slow it down temporarily.
ID: 1705913 · Report as offensive
Profile Clyde "Liberal" Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 15267
Credit: 45,319,484
RAC: 797
United States
Message 1705957 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 13:31:07 UTC - in response to Message 1705913.  

What if the Jihadists win?

When have they ever won?

Their fight is with history, and its a fight they can't win. You can't stop human progress, you can only slow it down temporarily.

Your Post discloses our Fundamental Difference.

Your, and my Western Civilization, will collapse. And Other's will win - eventually.

Everything is Temporary. Any 'Advance' is only a temporary illusion. As History instructs us.

You should be grateful to God, or The Universe, for living in this time. It too, will pass.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton
ID: 1705957 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 . . . 28 · 29 · 30 · 31 · 32 · 33 · 34 . . . 53 · Next

Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3)


 
©2019 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.