ALL ICE MELTS in Artic. Water Temp stays at 28 Degrees.
So What's dA Big Deal?
Let dA BIG MELT Begin.
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I see that you have moved to Russia Khorosho:)
But if all ice in the Arctic melts it's not only the searise to worry about.
The maritime life will diminish very drastically.
о небесах и блин.
I think that's a very BIG deal!

Stay Cheeki Breeki.

But if all ice in the Arctic melts it's not only the searise to worry about.

Arctic ice is floating so will not cause sea level rise when it melts. Land ice (ie Antarctic, Greenland, glaciers) will.

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But if all ice in the Arctic melts it's not only the searise to worry about.

Arctic ice is floating so will not cause sea level rise when it melts. Land ice (ie Antarctic, Greenland, glaciers) will.

Arctic ice include land ice as well.
The Arctic consists of the Arctic Ocean, adjacent seas, and parts of Alaska (United States), Canada, Finland, Greenland (Denmark), Iceland, Norway, Russia and Sweden.
The ice floating in the Arctic Ocean is already in the sea by about 90 % and if that melt it would be very insignificant to searise.
However...
https://www.greenfacts.org/en/arctic-climate-change/

The ice floating in the Arctic Ocean is already in the sea by about 90 % and if that melt it would be very insignificant to searise.

Fill a glass with ice cubes. Pour in water until it is at the very brim and the ice is above the top. Come back after it has melted. Did it overflow? Did the level change at all?

The ice floating in the Arctic Ocean is already in the sea by about 90 % and if that melt it would be very insignificant to searise.

Fill a glass with ice cubes. Pour in water until it is at the very brim and the ice is above the top. Come back after it has melted. Did it overflow? Did the level change at all?

Since frozen water has a greater volume than liquid water, that's why it floats the answer is no.

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The ice floating in the Arctic Ocean is already in the sea by about 90 % and if that melt it would be very insignificant to searise.

Fill a glass with ice cubes. Pour in water until it is at the very brim and the ice is above the top. Come back after it has melted. Did it overflow? Did the level change at all?

Since frozen water has a greater volume than liquid water, that's why it floats the answer is no.

Correct, as water freezes it expands, hence it floats.

The ice floating in the Arctic Ocean is already in the sea by about 90 % and if that melt it would be very insignificant to searise.

Fill a glass with ice cubes. Pour in water until it is at the very brim and the ice is above the top. Come back after it has melted. Did it overflow? Did the level change at all?

Heureka. Archimedes is still right!

Well, this is interesting.

First we had Harvey (Cat 4, hit Texas and Louisiana Gulf coasts).

Then Irma forms off the west coast of Africa and heads this way.

And now, for the last couple of days, we have 2 more hurricanes in the Atlantic near North America for a total of three currently active hurricanes.

Irma (currently Cat 4 about to hit Florida after tearing up many of the Caribbean islands as a Cat 5)

8:00 AM EDT Fri Sep 8
Location: 21.8°N 74.7°W
Moving: WNW at 16 mph
Min pressure: 927 mb
Max sustained: 150 mph

Jose (currently Cat 3 and strengthening, following Irma)

5:00 AM AST Fri Sep 8
Location: 16.0°N 55.3°W
Moving: WNW at 16 mph
Min pressure: 957 mb
Max sustained: 125 mph

Katia (currently Cat 1 and strengthening, in SW Gulf of Mexico)

4:00 AM CDT Fri Sep 8
Location: 21.3°N 95.4°W
Moving: WSW at 3 mph
Min pressure: 977 mb
Max sustained: 90 mph

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/cyclones/

Note: the above page will load with its CURRENT data.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Stay safe my Seti friend. Prayers that you and yours make it safely through the storm.

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... and still I fear, and still I dare not laugh at the Mad Man!

Queen - The Prophet's Song

Stay safe my Seti friend. Prayers that you and yours make it safely through the storm.

+1

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Yes, Climate Change has REDUCED dA POWER of Hurricanes. You know, Made LESS WORSE.

DEAL with 'It', Warmists.

Dat's What I Thought says Cool Lava Rockin' DR HO HUM.

Man O Live dA BEAT BEAT of dA TRUTH TRUTH Keeps On Keepin' On

MEGA POWER Yappin'

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Yes, Climate Change has REDUCED dA POWER of Hurricanes. You know, Made LESS WORSE.

Peer-reviewed actual-science citation pleez.

In the interim another totally-not-AGW-amplified hurricane has just gone Category 5 and is threatening the Caribbean, including Puerto Rico.

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Peer-reviewed actual-science citation pleez.

From Dull?

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Thanks... there is a nice chart in there:



I'd be interested in the differentiation of it to see if and how much it is increasing over time. (It certainly looks to be, but data would be nice.)

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Thanks... there is a nice chart in there:



I'd be interested in the differentiation of it to see if and how much it is increasing over time. (It certainly looks to be, but data would be nice.)

You will notice a big jump right about 1930. Records began then.

Yes, Climate Change has REDUCED dA POWER of Hurricanes. You know, Made LESS WORSE.

Peer-reviewed actual-science citation pleez.

In the interim another totally-not-AGW-amplified hurricane has just gone Category 5 and is threatening the Caribbean, including Puerto Rico.

There have been worse years in the Caribbean. Including number of Major Hurricanes per year, in the brief time records have been complied.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_hurricane_season

So far... Nothing unusual. But Hurricane Season is still in progress.

The problem is with that thinking about the Caribbean, is that without checking people might believe all Caribbean islands face the full force of a hurricane each time one passes through. But if you look at the records for Puerto Rico, it has only been in the 'eye' four times, 1899 San Ciriaco (4), 1928 San Felipe Segunda (4), 1932 San Ciprian (5) and 1989 Hugo (4). Maria will probably be the fifth.

Thanks... there is a nice chart in there:



I'd be interested in the differentiation of it to see if and how much it is increasing over time. (It certainly looks to be, but data would be nice.)

You will notice a big jump right about 1930. Records began then.

Sorry Gary, but you can't really say that 'records began' in 1930. What is the left part (pre-1930) of that chart then?

Records began in 1494. Late Sept. (~ 24th) 1494, a hurricane hit Hispaniola near La Isabela from southwest. Since then, the quality of the records has increased, but we still have historical records of hurricanes from MUCH before 1930.

Ship radio and weather satellites have been mentioned.

Ship radio (telegraphy -- morse code) came into use in the very early 1900's after Marconi invented and patented a transmitter(spark gap type) and receiver (crystal set) system. By 1913 they were required by international convention as part of the fallout from the Titanic disaster. Later (after 1920), voice communication came into use with the invention of the vacuum tube AM transmitters and receivers. And its only gotten better since.

Ships position has gotten much more precise as well (LORAN in 1942, GPS in 1978, etc.).

Hurricane flights began in 1943 to check strength of hurricanes, etc.

Weather satellites. First one launched in 1959. First successful one in 1960. Gotten much better since.

Was there another reason you chose to say record keeping started in 1930, or was it just the spike that year caught your eye?

Oh, and by the way, the keepers of HURDAT acknowledge that they have under-counted the late 19th/early 20th century data.

Oh, here is HURDAT...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/hurdat/hurdat2-1851-2016-041117.txt

Format for the listing:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/hurdat/hurdat2-format-atlantic.pdf

First record is June 25, 1851, with a Hurricane at 28.0 N 94.8 W with a wind speed of 80 knots.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

I Can Talk to dA ROCKS. Cool Lava Rockin' ROCKS and ALL Other ROCKS.

And dA 4.5 BILLION to NOW ROCKS Tell ME......[CharpDots]...........and DATs ALL dA CITING DR HO HUM aka Cool Lava Rockin' Needs to Knows.

So. Hurricanes are NOT WORSE. They Be LESS WORSE. By A LARGE mO fO


dA BEAT BEAT goes ON ON and ON and ON and ON. On dA DRUM DRUM


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Was there another reason you chose to say record keeping started in 1930, or was it just the spike that year caught your eye?

IIRC that is when storms started getting names/numbers. Before then hodgepodge, you have to look in dozens of different sources for info and not all use the same criteria. ex some records are by central pressure others by wind speed.