And boy, doesn't the idea of people from the Middle East being dumb and ignorant fit well within the orientalist narrative, which specifically claimed that these people were dumb and ignorant?

I believe you are describing the Christian narrative. They haven't found GOD yet, they are dumb and ignorant (and need saving).

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Hey, let's get serious...
God knows what he's doin'
He wrote this book here
An' the book says:
He made us all to be just like him,"
So...
If we're dumb...
Then God is dumb...
(an' maybe even a little ugly on the side)

Oh but some are "more equal" than others
some are "more blessed" than others
some are "more chosen" than others

and all the other whispers of the minions

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And boy, doesn't the idea of people from the Middle East being dumb and ignorant fit well within the orientalist narrative, which specifically claimed that these people were dumb and ignorant?

I believe you are describing the Christian narrative. They haven't found GOD yet, they are dumb and ignorant (and need saving).

Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc.

Why the Specific Attack regarding Christians? At least they are not be-heading, nor crucifying Muslims.

Maybe not in Israel:
Christian militias take bloody revenge on Muslims in Central African Republic

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And boy, doesn't the idea of people from the Middle East being dumb and ignorant fit well within the orientalist narrative, which specifically claimed that these people were dumb and ignorant?

I believe you are describing the Christian narrative. They haven't found GOD yet, they are dumb and ignorant (and need saving).

While I'm sure that for some people its indeed the Christian narrative, I don't think thats the case for the majority of people. No one really linked human rights with Christianity, and their origins are very much rooted in the Western secular philosophical traditions.

And boy, doesn't the idea of people from the Middle East being dumb and ignorant fit well within the orientalist narrative, which specifically claimed that these people were dumb and ignorant?

I believe you are describing the Christian narrative. They haven't found GOD yet, they are dumb and ignorant (and need saving).

Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc.

Why the Specific Attack regarding Christians? At least they are not be-heading, nor crucifying Muslims.

Because if you had read my post, you would have know this was about WESTERN attitudes towards the Middle East, and Christianity is the dominant religion in the West.

And boy, doesn't the idea of people from the Middle East being dumb and ignorant fit well within the orientalist narrative, which specifically claimed that these people were dumb and ignorant?

I believe you are describing the Christian narrative. They haven't found GOD yet, they are dumb and ignorant (and need saving).

Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc.

Why the Specific Attack regarding Christians? At least they are not be-heading, nor crucifying Muslims.

Maybe not in Israel:
Christian militias take bloody revenge on Muslims in Central African Republic

For Religious reasons, or Revenge?

Anyone who doesn't understand the difference, is (fill-in ALL the negatives).

As usual, things are a little bit more complicated than that, Clyde.

Now are you suggesting that when Christians single out Muslims to brutally terrorise them its 'revenge', but when Muslims single out Christians to brutally terrorise then its 'religious reasons'?

Anyone who sees the world in those terms is, to quote you, (fill-in ALL the negatives).

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[For Religious reasons, or Revenge?

Is there a difference? (At least when talking Abraham's vengeful God)

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You mention Christianity, I mention other. So?

We have to follow Your narrative and opinion?

Where, in any discussion, does a reply have to confine itself to Your view of The World?

O.O

What? I mean...I cant even...

Look, when my argument concerns itself solely with the Western point of view, and where the West is Christian and not Islamic or Jewish, it makes no goddamn sense for you to whine about how unfair it is that it doesn't take Islam or Judaism into account. I'm not talking about them because the argument doesn't apply to them. You are pretending that I made the argument apply to everybody but only chose to pick in Christians in particular.

When a plane crash with a christian copilot we look for mental issues.
When it's a muslim copilot we look for terrorist links.

And also demand forgiveness from 2 billion muslims.

[For Religious reasons, or Revenge?

Is there a difference? (At least when talking Abraham's vengeful God)

The vengeful God of Islam?

Clyde, you do know that the God of Islam, the God of Hebrews and the God of Christians are all the same God and share some of the same religious texts.

Abraham is a prophet of all three religions.

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A lot of religion talks now and perhaps off topic.
Anyway.
I Think like this.
Someone came up with the idea with a monoteoistic view.
AFAIK it was a Egyptian Pharaoe that might be the first.
Anaknaton.
No one liked his idea but the jews who worked there picked up his idea.
The idea spread in Palestine and become a religion.
Then 600 years later a man called Jesus starts a religion based on the jew texts and makes some amendments.
600 years later of Jesus came Mohammed and makes amendments to the jew and christian texts.

Of course Clyde knows. One you understand he knows, then you understand the reasons behind his posting style.

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Thanks Chris:)
Here is Akhenaten's wife Nefertiti.

You are very confused. At best.

Attempting to narrow the discussion, is just a ploy.

I'm not attempting to narrow the discussion, I'm making an argument about why WESTERN people seem to care less about what happens in the rest of the Middle East compared to what happens in Israel. Can you see now, why I'm not including Muslims or Jews in the argument?

If you disagree with the argument, fine, come up with a counter argument. Prove me wrong. However, don't try to attack my argument on the basis of elements it never tried to make any statements on to begin with.

Many people still see the majority of the Middle East as a bunch of oil rich nomads buying Ferraris with nowhere to drive them, and still living in biblical times by stoning women to death, and chopping hands off thieves. When not doing that they are always fighting each other.

Yep, all that chatter whenever that happens, yet the West does nothing.
You don't see Israeli's: -
Beheading prisoners
Stoning women to death for adultery after "allowing" themselves to be raped
Burning prisoners alive
Chopping off hands

There is a respect for Israel, and their struggles over the centuries, after the Holocaust in WWII many people think that the Jews have had a damn rough deal in their history.

And there lies the answer, so when they get attacked, they deal with it...

...and the outcry that causes...

Many people still see the majority of the Middle East as a bunch of oil rich nomads buying Ferraris with nowhere to drive them, and still living in biblical times by stoning women to death, and chopping hands off thieves. When not doing that they are always fighting each other.

Yep, all that chatter whenever that happens, yet the West does nothing.
You don't see Israeli's: -
Beheading prisoners
Stoning women to death for adultery after "allowing" themselves to be raped
Burning prisoners alive
Chopping off hands

No, but they have been shooting children, bulldozing houses with people still in them, cutting of aid and medical supplies, not allowing free movement to the people of Gaza, shelling houses of civilians, stealing land..to name just some of the things they have done in recent years.

There is a respect for Israel, and their struggles over the centuries, after the Holocaust in WWII many people think that the Jews have had a damn rough deal in their history.

And there lies the answer, so when they get attacked, they deal with it...

...and the outcry that causes...

I though an eye for an eye was only acceptable behaviour in the Bible.

Of course what Israel is doing is not merely an eye for an eye. Its the dis-proportionality of their response that is real issue.

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Of course what Israel is doing is not merely an eye for an eye. Its the dis-proportionality of their response that is real issue.

Here we go again...

...War is war & always has been & from the state of the world today, always will be.

So the US killing civilians in drone strikes does not matter, just Israel doing it sparks outrage?

The future of warfare

What the Islamic Middle East really think

Of course what Israel is doing is not merely an eye for an eye. Its the dis-proportionality of their response that is real issue.

Here we go again...

...War is war & always has been & from the state of the world today, always will be.

So the US killing civilians in drone strikes does not matter, just Israel doing it sparks outrage?

The future of warfare

What the Islamic Middle East really think

Well I'd take any article from the Dail Mail with a pinch of salt.

However, I don't think anyone has said that the US drone strikes aren't a problem. They are one of the main causes of radicalisation. However, this thread is about Israel and Palestine.

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Okay, so your comment on that Iranian Imam? After all, Iran is working hard to becoming a nuclear power in the region & they want Israel gone...

...how many people reside in Israel & how many in Palestine?

Will you lament the demise of Israel should the Middle East get their wish?