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Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24895 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
After reading Eric's blog & doing some further research on this, I can see this becoming the "sub-prime" disaster for the Internet. There is a simple solution but one that will be difficult to implement: - Have all non-US ISP's block ALL content to & from the Continental US. Hit these companies where it hurts the most - Their wallets! I wonder what the NSA would say with no access to worldwide net traffic... |
Batter Up ![]() Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Dan, you CAN reply! Freedom of speech is still in vogue here, and you can let them know how you feel about their effect on YOU!! Lee Robinson That is 180 degrees from the truth. ![]() |
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kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51470 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
I wonder what the NSA would say with no access to worldwide net traffic... Nope...you know very well they would find a way around it under the table. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
catlin Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 506,335 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I want to comment but they want a state and a zip number, any ideas? |
Nick ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I hope I'm not sniffing some form of censorship here in making it difficult for some people, in the USA, to get their information up onto the web....or am I'm misreading all this. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
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What does loss of net neutrality mean for volunteer computing? Quite possibly the end. What ever happened to this? 1890 was enacted "The Sherman Act" in the United States. It is the competition that often supplanted model of competition laws in other countries. The implication of this is that anti-competitive agreements and collaborations were banned. With the support of the Sherman Act could disproportionate penalties imposed. In some cases, dominant firms are forced to divide themselves into several companies or sell parts of the company. |
Mr Paslow Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 6,461,737 RAC: 1 ![]() |
I have filed public comment to both dockets. Thanks for the call to action Eric! |
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In Europe we went for net neutrality as well, but of course a large proportion of content comes from the US, so we're affected whether we like it or not :-/ |
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By god they don't make it easy! So... Full name and address all publicly displayed, and assumed that only America exists. The comment link looks to be: Comments - Protecting and Promoting the Open Internet Hope there are enough Americans to stamp on the Hollywood and other media business takeover of the internet of the world. Should be none of their business! Good luck! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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My comment to the FCC, The internet, though new compared to many technologies we use today, has quickly become a service that people rely on for most aspects of their daily lives. Most people rely on a fast reliable internet for Doing business, Entertainment, Commerce, even Basic Communication. For example many people use the internet for their home telephone service including 911 access. Internet access should be treated as common carrier. If ISPs can’t afford to keep up with demand (which is not the case) they can charge more for access, i.e. raise their rates. They should not be allowed to give preferential treatment for some customers’ traffic over other customers’ traffic. This practice could and most likely would lead to unfair competitive advantages for the few companies that afford to pay for the preferential treatment. In this country we supposedly have anti-trust laws that prevent large companies from gaining too much of an unfair advantage over other companies. It is the duty of the government to try and keep the playing field at least somewhat level. The FCC needs to do its duty as a regulating commission and prevent some companies form abusing their resources to gain an unreasonably unfair advantage over others. |
Eric Korpela ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 ![]() ![]() |
Thanks. It appears they've removed the list of most active Proceedings. Apparently that made it too easy for the people to comment on important issues. That doesn't make it seem promising that our concerns will be heard. @SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon) ![]() |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24895 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
I wondered when something like that would happen. I think it goes hand in hand with this... Emergency data & telecommunications law to be passed The EU pulled the directive back in April but our government are only acting now? Putting the Net Neutrality into the jigsaw... |
Nick ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The following, as quoted in the Wall Street Journal. The idea is that consumers should be able to access whatever content they choose, not the content chosen by the broadband provider The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
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What does loss of net neutrality mean for volunteer computing? Quite possibly the end. Hi Eric, thank you for your post and this thread. SETI@home is the scientific experiment that most excites the imagination of people worldwide. I sure hope we don't lose SETI@home :( Best Wishes Byron |
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I just confirmed that my comments for 14-28 and 10-127 did get posted. Currently, my 14-28 comment is 20 pages in; and, 10-127 is five pages in. I sincerely hope that we can stop the nonsense. TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos |
harleyguy Send message Joined: 27 May 14 Posts: 1 Credit: 21,816 RAC: 0 ![]() |
i think that the government is activley communicating with alien races,this is why we cant receive (FREE) television signals.everything has to go thru a filtering system before (FREE TV BOXES) SUPPLIED BY THE GOVERNMENT!!!they are affraid we mite hear something.next we will have (special radios)just to listen to the radio.i despise the idea that the gov. knows the truth and think they have the rite to hide these amazing things with the people. i am 100% positive aliens exhist.you would have to be foolish not to.i really enjoyed being part of seti@home |
Dana Send message Joined: 8 Jul 14 Posts: 2 Credit: 11,234 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I always thought the US like the UK was a land of competition and survival of the fittest! Competition and Survival of the Fittest are the two stages of economic life. Competition occurs while many contenders are in the market. Survival of the Fittest (law of the jungle) begets monopoly, usually by protection or direct subsidy from government. |
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After reading Eric's blog & doing some further research on this, I can see this becoming the "sub-prime" disaster for the Internet. ========================================================================= the problem with this is all the domain name servers are in the us and the nsa has so far blocked any attempt to move them. the solution here is to go to a decentralized net topology then no domain name servers would be necessary, also more paths = faser network so no high speed backbone is necessary. although then who would the nsa snoop and they would have to re task all those supercomputers that they have hooked in to the backbone and may west portal. |
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